Agave nectar and diabetes

@speakeasy (4171)
United States
October 22, 2007 3:57pm CST
My husband is a diabetic and I have been seeing advertisements for agave nectar (agave syrup) that say how good it is for people with diabetes. However, I don't believe anything that sounds "too good to be true" without doing some additional checking. After al, they said aspartame was "good" for people with diabetes and aspartame was making my husband's diabetes almost impossible to control with medication. (We removed all aspartame from his diet and his diabetes is now controlled very weel with ONE pill a day instead of three different pills twice a day.) I did some checking and found out that the agave nectar is good because it has a low glycemic index and does not cause a spike in blood glucose levels. BUT, I also found out that it causes: high cholesterol and triglycerides; increases blood pressure; increases insulin resistance; and a bunch of other bad things. A diabetic does NOT need any of the above symptoms. These all make diabetes worse and more dangerous and increase the risk of heart disease. So, no agave nectar for my husband. I am really glad I checked it out before I wasted our money. Here is a link to the problems with agave nectar (agave syrup) - http://communati.com/main/natural-sweeteners-agave-syrup-agave-nectar The people who are marketing this to diabetics should be shot. Shame on them.
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4 responses
22 Oct 08
check out stevia, its a plant that makes everything supersweet. i heard they were going to try to commercialise it. stevia has no calorific value.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you; but, between my job and getting my husband's carashed computer up and running again, I have been very short on time. I have researched stevia in great detail in the past and while it is "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) I think you should be aware that it does have TWO side effects which make regular usage inappropriate for some people. (Occasional usage of small amounts does not seem to result in these side effects; but, daily usage does.) 1) It affects the way that the liver metabolizes carbohydrates. This very fact is why it is so good for diabetics. BUT, this same effect makes it inappropriate for pregnant women and children. The result for them is that they do not get enough calories and nutrition from carbohydrates to promote proper growth of either the child or the fetus. 2) It also decreases fertility in both males and females. No research has been completed yet to prove whether this is reversable or not. So, IF you are planning on having children, regular usage of stevia in NOT a good idea. There are a lot of myths and misconceptions about why the FDA has not approved stevia (several other countries have NOT approved it either); but, the fact is that these two side effects make unlimited use of stevia in our food and beverage unsafe for a percentage of our population (every child and anyone who has any plans of reproducing).
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
28 Dec 08
estaeheli - with stevia it is not a matter of using too much at a time; it is a matter of the frequency of use. A single drink once each day sweetened with stevia is enough to bring about the side effects in just 2 - 3 weeks. Using more stevia at a time just makes the side effects more severe. Before we "discovered" stevia - it was being used in South American jungles to treat diabetes by the tribal healers. Even they refused to treat children and pregnant women with stevia because they knew it was "not good for them". They had not connected the infertility issue to stevia - they just though the "gods were not blessing the person's family with more children".
• United States
23 Dec 08
As with anything, it has to do with how much you are eating. If you make a pig out of yourself on any one food, it can be detrimental. We should be learning to eat a balanced diet, with sweets being a small part.
@pendragon (3348)
• United States
26 Oct 07
I am a diabetic,too. Thank you for the warning, anytime I miss having bad symtpoms due to trying something new,I appreciate it! Good luck to you and he.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
26 Oct 07
You're welcome. So many people only look at the short term effects of foods , beverages, supplements, and medications; that are noticeable immediately. But, there are a lot of short term effects that we cannot see going on in our bodies all the time - increases in blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. We only find out about them when the cumulative effect becomes noticeable; or, we get the results of our blood tests back. By that time, it is almost impossible to trace the problem back to it's source and a lot of the time, we just "chalk it up" to age or normal progression of a disease (like diabetes). Of course, manufacturers and sellers are NOT going to tell you about these problems or you wouldn't buy their products and they wouldn't make any money. So, when I do find out about something like this, I do try to spread the word.
@pendragon (3348)
• United States
26 Oct 07
I have sarcoidosis and celiac disease as well, and yes, I was chalking them up to them diabetes, I was so tired of all the years of people blaming my poor diabetes care, when there were other issues at hand that no one knew of, I was a GREAT diabetic, so it didnt make sense as to why I couldnt get great results from all of my cautiousness.
@GardenGerty (162849)
• United States
23 Oct 07
You are really smart to do so. Diabetes seems to be different from one person to another, and these synthetic sweeteners, it turns out are often worse than sugar. Worse yet, one study with contradict another. I have heard that honey is better for diabetics, and I have heard that maple syrup is better for diabetics. One thing I have been impressed with is stevia. In the USA it is illegal to sell it as a sweetener, but you can sell it as a food supplement. If you read about it online, you will learn that it is good for diabetics, and has been studied extensively. I have just been introduced to an energy drink sweetened mainly with stevia, and I find it to be great. I would like to congratulate you two on discovering the aspartame link to your hubby's problems and wish I could make all diabetics pay attention to what you have said. You are doing a good job getting the word out in forums and such.
• United States
18 Oct 08
Your right. U can't believe everything you hear or read. I suggest you speak with a naturopathic doctor before you write of Agave. I'm a primary care provider myself and I recommend agave to all my diabetic patients. I only recommend the Raw Organic forms. There is no evidence that this increases triglycerides or blood pressure. Insulin resistance can not be increased due to one food. Insulin resistance is caused by insulin betting stuck in fat cells. usually around the belt line. This is why when people lose weight their diabetes gets better. The insulin releases as the fat melts. Beef and Pork are more likely to cause insulin resistance than something that is harvested naturally from the earth.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
19 Oct 08
Actually, you are only partially right. There are MANY things that cause insulin resistance. The more of those things you have in your life and diet the worse the problem will become. Eliminating any one or two of those things will help; eliminating even more will help even more. Agave nectar (raw organic or not) is VERY high in fructose - fructose cannot be absorbed directly from the digestive tract into the blood stream so it does not cause a spike in blood sugar and it is low glycemic. However, for fructose to be used by the body it HAS to be processed by the liver. EXCESS fructose (above and beyond a few grams) IS turned into triglycerides/fatty acids and DOES contribute to insulin resistance. Agave nectar is safe if the person only uses small amounts and is NOT getting fructose from other sources. But, if you have a person who is already insulin resistant encouraging them to use ANY additional source of fructose is just going to add to their problems. You can agree or disagree all you want - BUT, it is a FACT that the sugars in agave nectar are between 90% - 95% fructose AND it is a FACT that excess fructose (more than would be consumed in 2 - 3 pieces of fruit) is excess to a healthy liver's processing ability and is detrimental to anyone who is a diabetic. I do not know WHO told you that insulin gets "stuck in fat cells"; but, if you paid money for that information, I would ask for my money back. A lot of different things are stored in fat cells (excess hormones, etc); but, insulin is not one of them.