Please don't create discussions in this topic anymore!

It must be tough to adjust to the American term, considering you're coming from South America, which is practically a temple of Football.

i have to say it was at first, but i am more than used to it now. :)

You're right about the low feet-kicking of the ball in American football... I don't think they care too much about football to try and undermine it or something, they just sticked to the name of "football" for the American football from back in the day when many sports were called football (see previous discussions for more details).

I totally agree that it's not right to ask Americans to use "football" instead of "soccer", as it would be very confusing and it really doesn't make sense. But let me ask you something, does it make sense for you to go to the FIFA World Cup, meet me there, and tell me what a great game of "soccer" we just saw? IT's called FIFA, from "Fédération Internationale de Football Association". "Football" association. Not "soccer" association. So I find it natural to speak of "soccer" in the US, but not worldwide. I'm not insisting you should use my term for the sport, but I don't think it's fair for me to adjust to your term (a term that only a few countries use) and not for you to adjust to the real name of the sport (again, when it comes to international discussions on the game, of course).

I see your point.

Well, if I were to come there to watch the game, I would most likely say "soccer" because that's what I've called it for over 40 years. Creature of habit. NOW, if I was more involved in the sport, I would more likely use the appropriate language in the appropriate places. I'll have to ask my brother though, because he's big into soccer - he plays, coaches and refs. He would probably call it football where that's the appropriate term. But, from the comfort of his home, talking to other people, I think he might call it soccer and if you called it football he'd still know what you were talking about because that would be the context of the converstaion.

You're right, I couldn't see my mistake from the statement until now. I was trying to say Americans call it "soccer", of course... Of course that I'm not suggesting myLot to delete the discussions in this topic, I'm just trying to point out how pointless it seems to me to have to interest names that describe the exact same sport. It's not like the situation you mention for "life" (although you do have a point), because life comprises relationship, parenting, etc., while football and soccer don't include one another, they are used to describe the same sport.

"I'm just trying to point out how pointless it seems to me to have to interest names that describe the exact same sport" I agree that it seems pointless literally - but if you look at it in depth, radically, it won't. New interests are not created by myLot itself, it is created by we, the users. When a new user enters his interests for the first time, in the "sports that i enjoy" section, he is more likely to enter "Soccer" or "Football" as one of the sports he enjoys, because football is the most loved sport in the world. Since most of the users are from USA, they all enter it as "Soccer" instead of "football". This is how an interest takes birth also. Now, as you said it might appear to be pointless - but, the question is, how could anybody help it? Ok, fine, mylot deletes the interest "soccer" including the discussions it has got and retains only "football". But that can only be the temporary solution. Again, with new American users joining everyday, the "soccer" community crops up over and over even if it is deleted regularly. So, instead of leaving this "soccer" community barren, we shall use it so that all your *football* discussions do not get concentrated at one corner i.e interest - "football". Mind you, American-English is also very popular in many parts of the world apart from America. I don't think the ones who practice American-English will tolerate this, so be aware of it the next time when you think of targetting an American-English terminology:p [It's not like the situation you mention for "life" (although you do have a point), because life comprises relationship, parenting..etc, while football and soccer don't include one another, they are used to describe the same sport] You got it wrong here. I was'nt trying to make an analogy to football-soccer using the example of "life". My implication was that many more interests in myLot are already being created unnecessarily - and your *football-Soccer* was not the first one. I mean it's just not worth giving our time, these things are helpless. Similiar interests unnecessarily keep popping up and people keep post in them, that's it. It is inevitable. I would also like to use this oppurtunity to appreciate your efforts to get things done tidily and disciplinarily from mylotters. You deserve my applause for this attempt, regardless of the outcome.

Thank you! I am happy to see that I'm not the only one that thinks this way. As for making the difference between football to what the Americans are playing, if they didn't want to create confusions, why did they name their sport by the same name with an already existing sport? In palaeontology, there is a strict principle when naming a species, the priority principle: if the same species is named by more scientists, the first to describe it has the right to impose the name he has chosen.

I see no problem. In general we can use soccer, and regarding clubs the abreviation F.C. is fine. For example, if someone says, Manchester United, Or Chelsea played, most majority (if not all) people would assume the soccer clubs.

So it is, except it's called football.

maybe they should start calling it "shocker" :P it would make more sence :P

Thanks for your opinion!

I totally agree that the two games must be separated. What I don't understand is why Americans claim that their sport (the one with the touchdown) should be the one called "football", since the English sport with the 11 players and two goals came to be first. This is where we disagree. The modern game of football (what you call "soccer") was codified in England following the formation of The Football Association, whose 1863 Laws of the Game created the foundations for the way the sport is played today. As of American football: In 1867, the convergence of various developments at the various colleges and schools led to the codification of American football. First, the first football was patented. Also, two colleges in relative proximity to each other each developed their own rules of football. It is recognized by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, better known as the NCAA, that Rutgers University and Princeton University played the very first game of college football on Nov. 6, 1869 in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Today, Rutgers is popularly recognized as the "Birthplace of College Football".

I agree, "football" should be the name for the game where you kick a ball with the feet while on foot.

I think it's great to let the children know what sport are they playing and a bit of that sport's evolution and history.

Thanks for your opinion. I don't agree, but that doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion. How would it be if we all call it "calcio" just so the Italian understand exactly what we are talking about :)

I see you only have 30 responses, so you must be new in myLot. The thing is the discussions around here are created under certain interests. The interest this discussion is created in is "soccer". That means you can create any discussion you like on soccer here. What I'm debating here is weather the term of "soccer" is correct or we should use create discussions on this sport in the interest called "football" (as you can see, I support the second option)

Thanks for responding and for sharing my views on the matter.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking this way.

If you read the responses here (other than your own) you will see that I have nothing against Americans calling it soccer. I find that normal, or it could lead to confusion. You make an excellent point in this response when you're saying "Just because you call it one thing doesn't mean everyone else is going to". But the fact is you are the ones calling it different, in America.

Checking out the text from when I started the discussion I must admit it does sound a bit aggressive, and I apologize for that. It wasn't my intention at all. As for rudeness, I don't see words in my discussion that come near to what you're using here. Nevertheless, I won't report you to the administrators, because I respect you point of view.