In your country, how far back would you like to turn back the clock?
@bravenewworld (746)
United States
November 10, 2007 11:35am CST
When was the best time in your nations history? When was the country in the shape that you'd like to see it now?
I'm not asking when was the best time in your own life. I admit this question stems from myLot political discussions with Conservatives, who, in the nature of conservatism, see values, the political system, culture, the country in general, steadily going to pot over time.
As opposed to progressives, who on the whole see the same changes as fixing things, and so would arguably not want the clock to be turned back at all (though progressives may take issue with this).
Some conservatives in the US seem to wish to turn back the clock to the Reagan era, some to the 50s, some to before the New Deal, some to before the civil war, some even all the way to the country's founding, when the constitution meant something!
Maybe the Brits would like to return to the era of the Empire, or before trade unions run the country.
It would be interesting to hear from myLotters in many different countrys. When, in your opinion, was the golden age in your country?
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@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
11 Nov 07
I think the best in our history would be 4 decades back, it's not that same as what our nation used to be right now. the ways of life and living was so complex and simple, with agriculture as the means of one family's livelihood. Compared to where are country is right now, rapid developments and lots of foreign investors and businessmen are coming here. Instead of people concentrating on what their country's natural resources are, they tend to leave their homes and look for these NEW opportunities which many thought would help them. it does helped us in some way, but it also caused alot of setbacks and adjustments since they prefer to work in big cities then leave their fields or sell them for development companies to turn into buildings or business establishments.
The 50's and 60's where our golden era, since people tend to their own business and family needs which is really about agriculture and crops. If the government nowadays just pushed this and capitalized on exporting our own products, then Philippines could've been in a more comfortable and smooth-flowing place in the world. Also, the word CORRUPTION is the infamous term used now in almost every person who are attached in the government!;)
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@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
11 Nov 07
Miration from the country to the urban areas seems like a problem for many countries. And it sounds as though the Philippines is suffering from some adverse effects of globalization.
As you say, though, perhaps corruption is the worse problem. There seems to be a lot of cronyism, from what I've observed. A lot of people seeing public office as a means of making themselves rich with very little consideration for the plight of the citizens.
I wonder what it would take for things to improve? Another popular uprising? Although Aquino was not really free from corruption either, right? Good luck to you.
Thanks for your response.
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@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
11 Nov 07
Ninoy was the one's who was branded as a traitor, not on his country but on the government which he really despise the most!;) I believe the nation is being pulled back by something, I know that there are folks out there who are willing to make a change again but the essence of EDSA1 cannot be compared anymore from what it was before. The revolution right now are mostly associated again with politicians, so with politics and poor people gathering together, be sure that MONEY will be used again to manipulate the public..
@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
11 Nov 07
I was refering to Corazon Aquino, not her husband (I think that's who you meant by Ninoy). I seem to remember hearing / reading that she wasn't such a huge change from Marcos when she took over.
What is EDSA1?
Do you have any opinion regarding the NPA/CPP?
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
10 Nov 07
My country for the last thirty + years is Italy. I admit to not knowing much about the history but I was never good on English history either.
If I could turn back the clock here it would be back to 1999 before the Euro took the place of Lire. Unfortunately there was not enough checking on prices done at that time amd the change has been the cause of many peoples and firms losses. Everything except wages has doubled in price in these years since the change took place. So we find ourselves paying twice as much as before while only receiving half what we were earning before. Everyone is aware of this including the gorvernment but nothing is being done to alter it and the 'poverty line' is changing rapidly.
@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Thanks for the interesting perspective on Italy and the Euro.
The value of the Lire has often been the source of humor, the currency being so devalued. But clearly switching to the Euro has really raised the 'cost of living' in Italy.
It's also seems a shame to see the old European currencies being lost, from a cultural point of view.
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@varunkrishna007 (1909)
• India
11 Nov 07
I think india is now having one of the best timnes.our gdp growth is now at 9 percent.our economy is growing at a faster rate with sensex crossing over 20000.also we are a having a good job sector for youth in india.also we are having a stable government.with more people getting educated the literacy rate is also considerably increasing
@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
11 Nov 07
That's good to hear. Thanks for replying.
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@chamberd1 (240)
• United States
11 Nov 07
I wouldn't. I just got the laundry done and I don't want to do it again.
@mrtimharry (1180)
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11 Nov 07
As a Brit, I would have to say British history tends to be based on other people's disadvantage.
Britain was obviously greatest at the time of the Empire, but if these were the best times for Britain, then the country's being ruled would often say that these were the worst times for their country.
In more recent times I would say that Britain's best time was in the Second World War, though I didn't live through it, the stories of the Blitz spirit are inspiring, where the country was one in opposition of Nazism, standing relatively alone in Europe in the 1939 and 1940
@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
11 Nov 07
I suppose Elizabethan times might be considered a golden era for England. But not if you were being persecuted or living in abject poverty. So, yeah, while there are glory times, often someone else is on the other end of the deal.
I think of progress as making things more equitable and just. But it does seem that we lose something in the process. At some point, people may see that things have gone wrong, and might wish to turn back the clock and do things differently.
And yes, sometimes the nation is at its best in times of adversity, with its backs to the wall. WWII is probably not a time most people would want to return to. But I see your point about the spirit of togetherness being inspiring.
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