Forgive and forget?

@Ciniful (1587)
Canada
November 15, 2007 10:15am CST
I'm just wondering where the boundaries lay in general for forgiveness. How far are you willing to go when forgiving someone, or better put, what are the boundaries on what you're willing to forgive? For instance, I've forgiven someone that stole from me, but chosen not to forgive another person who performed the same act. I've forgiven one person for years of abuse (although forgiveness was one sided ... it was on my end only, to move on) but have chosen NOT to forgive someone who made comments about my children. Is it important to you to extend forgiveness? I know some people who literally feel guilty if they don't forgive someone wrongdoing, while personally ... it doesn't bother me. If someone has wronged me enough for me to NEED to forgive them, I don't feel guilty in the least for cutting them out of my life, or for not extending forgiveness. I forgive someone if I feel they've actively tried to remedy the issue, or if there were underyling circumstances that I can relate to, but I've run across many, many situations where I didn't feel forgivness was justified or required.
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@Sillychick (3275)
• United States
16 Nov 07
This is a very subjective question. What is forgivable is different for every situation. I can forgive a person who betrays me, but it does not come easily. The person has to take responsibility for what they did wrong, express remorse, and do everything possible to remedy the situation. If a person acts like it is no big deal, or tries to make me feel bad for not readily offering forgiveness, I have a hard time forgiving. I think that forgiving a person can be a way to let go, to get past something that was done to you, and to relieve stress and unhappiness. But forgetting can be dangerous. Some people think that the two must go hand in hand. Not me. I think that forgetting leaves us vulnerable to being hurt again. For example, I forgave a person who lied to me, which means I don't hold it against her, I won't bring it up in future arguments, and I won't always assume she is lying in the future. But forgetting that it happened means that, if it does happen again, I will be vulnerable to being deceived. In other words, though I won't always assume she is lying, I will be aware of the possibility, and when something doesn't sit right, I will question it. To anwer your question aoubt boundaries, they should be wherever they feel right to you. You should never feel obligated to forgive. You should make a decision about how you feel about the wrong a person committed and be honest about what it means for the future of your relationship. There is a person in my life who I have tried to forgive, but I can't. I have decided to accept that the relationship will never be the same instead. That is what feels right to me.
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@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
16 Nov 07
I usually only ask subjective questions :) I get a kick out of seeing how different people react to different scenarios. As for yours, couldn't have put it any better myself. Very well said!
@taurus67 (176)
• Philippines
16 Nov 07
if Almighty God does forgive & forget...then why can't we?
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
18 Nov 07
Because we're not God, we're human beings ... fallable, imperfect and emotional. I would have thought that to be obvious. Your God may choose to forgive, I (and obviously many other people!) choose not to. Forgiveness made when not deserved is nothing more than setting yourself up to be taken advantage of. Even your God doesn't forgive those who don't deserve it.
@taurus67 (176)
• Philippines
18 Nov 07
thank for the comment...keep in touch
@sweetcakes (3504)
• United States
15 Nov 07
I forgive all the time. but it is hard as heck to forget. and if you don't forget u will keep bringing the subject up to cause and argument. then that means you never forgave the person in the first place.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
16 Nov 07
I agree with you, although I am extremely forgiving LOL I not only forgive easy, I actually do forget as easily - which is not necessarily good :)-. However there have been times where I did not forgive or forget and in some cases for lesser offenses. Funny- or not - that you mentioned you won't forgive someone that comments about your children. I might be able to forgive the odd comment but not any that will somehow hurt or impact negatively in my children. Actually one of the few people that I don't really talk to - other than hi and bye - is my sister in law, for having done something that really had serious consequences in my kids. I have forgiven my in laws for years of putting me down, but not for other things they did related to my family, my marriage and my children. I think it's easier for us to forgive things that are serious but don't touch our loved ones, or the things we hold dear. I also think that it might be easier to forgive people that we don't expect anything from sometimes.ANd a little bit harder to forgive people that we thought care about us and ended up hurting us anyway specially if it was done consciously.
@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
16 Nov 07
Heh ... the one I choose not to forgive about her comments about my kids is also my sister in law. When I married my husband I had two children from a previous long term relationship. We weren't married legally, but we were common law when our kids were born. Then we split up, I married my husband and we were expecting our first child together. His sister one day, during an arguement with my husband, yelled out "Who do you think watched her two b*stards while she went and had another one?" Derogatory remarks towards my children are never forgiven, regardless of the context they're made in. I haven't spoken to her since that day, she's allowed no contact with any of our children, and my husband cut her completely out of his life not long after.
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@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
16 Nov 07
Wow, that is quite a coincidence!I thought sisters in law were usually nice. THat was before meeting her :) When my marriage was on the rocks and we were thinking about separating, my dear sister in law decided that my kids should know. So she invited my husband and the kids - not me, mind you - for breakfast at the bar/dinner where she worked and told the kids that mom and dad were separating while explaining to him that it was the best thing to do. He's usually a bit brighter but at that time things were really bad and he didn't even stop her. WE had not made a final decision yet, and even if we had the people to tell my children would be me and him. In any case I was not going to tell them until the decision was final because - as it happened - we might decided to give our marriage another try and there was no reason to get them all worried. The way it happened was certainly not the best and it ended up with my daughter in counseling. How can I forgive her? No way. I'm still pretty pissed of at him, but the way I was told by a third person even if he wanted to minimize what she said it was pretty late to really fix it. She was in such a hurry to help it happen. Both me and my husband don't really have much to do with her since them, but sometimes we talk because her daughter and mine are very close and she often spends weekends here with mine.I do not take it on the kid. SHe's a good kid and had enough in her life as it is. But other than that there is no contact between us.
@kurtbiewald (2625)
• United States
16 Nov 07
i always think, forgive but don't forget at least don't let the same person hurt you twice in the same way also, always consider if what they did was intentional or not, most of the time when people hurt others its unintentional and springs from them having been hurt themselves its always best to forgive, if and when you can if someone intentionally hurt badly, avoid them
@niushuang (265)
• China
16 Nov 07
Sometimes forget means forgive.If you want to forget something or somebody that you will have a chance to forgive,because during the process you forget,all the sad things and bad persons will never influence yourbody.So,do not mind everything or everybody,you will forget them and forgive them. Learn to forget and forgive!
@joyce959 (1559)
• Philippines
15 Nov 07
To forgive someone depends on the gravity of the mistake or offense. I may forgive some white lies to cover up something. When a bf/gf cheats on her/his partner, it maybe hard to forgive, what more if a hubby/ wife cheats on her/his partner, its really very hard to forgive. It will take very long time before I can forgive and I may have forgive my partner if he really feels sorry and ask forgiveness and promise to not to do the same offense again. I may have forgiven but it will be very hard to forget.
• United States
15 Nov 07
I think we should forgive anyone who have done to us. People make mistakes and sometimes they don't realize it until later on in life. I know I have mad mistakes but I did try to go back and make them right. "All have sin and come short of the glory of God." The Lord also said if you don't forgive the person that has offended you He will not forgive you and you will not enter the Kingdom of God. I know I have sin and I want the Lord to forgive me, so I chose to ask the Lord for forgiveness of my sin and forgive and forget what anyone has done to offend me. I rather forgive and forget and go to Heaven then to not forgive and go to Hell.
@rockvixen (894)
• United States
15 Nov 07
I don't feel that I have to extend forgivness. There are things that people have done to me that I never forgave them for, and I don't feel guilty about not forgiving them for their act. Some people feel they deserve to be forgiven and I just don't feel they need to be. If someone does something to you, and they say to you "I'm so sorry I did that to you" and you knew in your heart and mind that they may do it again, I would just accept the apology, but I would NOT forgive them, unless there is a reason to, more often than not, there is hardly anything to forgive.