Is racism still a problem?
By laylomo
@laylomo (165)
United States
November 16, 2007 1:31am CST
A student found four nooses in a classroom at Central Michigan University earlier this week, in a section of the Engineering and Technology Building typically used by senior engineering students. The nooses were made of compressed gas lines that are generally used for experimental work. Michigan state Senator Hansen Clark discussed the issue with the university president, hoping to have federal authorities to look into the case. The school, by the way, is 4.3% African-American.
Do you think that this is a racist act, or is it just a act of fun? Are Americans (and the world, for my international friends) very sensitive when it comes to race? If you believe that this is an act of racism, is it a prevalent issue or is this one of the few isolated cases?
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
16 Nov 07
How could hanging a noose be fun?
Yes, rascism is still a problem.
These aren't a few isolated cases either, it's been going on fairly frequently across the country for the entire year..the most famous example being the Jena Six case.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
16 Nov 07
I'm told I have a demented sense of humor, but still..I wouldn't hang a noose in a public place and let peope wonder who did it. "OMG there's a rascist on campus"
That's not funny to me. I might put a noose in my bedroom, maybe even paint a little cartoon head to go in the center of it...'cause that would be funny.
But I don't think this is very funny.
I dunno.
Most people who hang the nooses aren't apologizing for the distress that occurred. If you did it only as a joke, and people get upset...you apologize, saying you didn't mean what they thought you meant and give a good reason why you did it.
Lots of people know what a noose means. So sayin' one didn't know, that doesn't always seem like a good excuse to me.
I know not all kids were taught respect and tolerance, but still. Even if you have a sick sense of humor (like I'm told I do), you at least should have some manners. I love pranks and jokes...and people really do need to lighten up sometimes. But this doesn't seem that funny to me.
I, personally think it's being too hopeful to think that maybe it was just joke. I'd be more inclined to believe it, if it only happened one or twice this year...but it hasn't so..
But you know..that's my opinion.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
16 Nov 07
I'd like to add, that it hasn't only been teenagers doing this. Adults have too, and a few known rascists.
And I'm not much of a believer in coincidences...but as I said, that's just me.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
17 Nov 07
I think it is a sad attempt to scare people. These it just makes the person who did this look like the idiot he/she is.Racism is always a problem somewhere but it is getting better.That is why putting up a noose is a sad attempt.Especially in the U.S., the kids today of every race don't learn their history so they may not even know what the noose was used for.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
23 Nov 07
It sounds to me like a sick sense of humor and who knows whether the nooses were meant to say these students did not like blacks or something else. Why they may have been left over from Halloween. It might have been a retaliation against one of the black students. After all, the media portrays Blacks as loud mouthed in your face and some assume that this is true for all. I do think there is racism on both sides, but no one knows what it really is. To my mind, beating up on someone and denying them employment when they are qualified is racism and also giving someone preferential treatment because of their ethnicity is racism. And allowing someone in university with less credits because of their ethnic makeup is being a racist.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
16 Nov 07
Yes lay, racism still is a problem and it always will be. It is human nature to shun things that are "different" from you, and unfortunately not every household teached tolerance to their kids. However I do have to say that I am tired of hearing about racism being a white vs. black thing. Every major story you hear in the news pertaining to racism is white vs. black. I'm white and I deal with racist behavior on a daily basis. If I had a dollar for everytime an African American client called me upset over something I have no control over and called me a dumb white b***h, I'd be rich! I mean why can't I just be a dumb b***h?
I don't believe hanging nooses is appropriate in public. But I,like raven, find the noose with the doll and the knife in her head amusing in a sick way. Might I also say that long before slavery there were "serfs" in Europe that were predominately white, and white criminals have been hung in the gallows for centuries before any "slave" was shipped to this country. I also feel that this "whitey trying to keep a brother down" argument has gotten old, and part of the problem with racism is that the people that claim they are being discriminated against will not move on.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
18 Nov 07
You make some very good points. And the fact that we still have problems arising like the Jena 6 problem is disgusting. I feel that alot of the problem is that the African Americans that pull the "race card" ruin it for the others. At least once a week I hear a policyhoklder tell me their rates are high because they are black. Skin color has nothing to do with it, the underwriters don't know what color you are, my company doesn't ask that question. I work a call center job at night from home. I get a lot of people that apply for instant credit, I can't tell you how many times I hear a "cause I'm black" remark after giving a denial. The phone and computer can't tell what race you are!
My hubby and my best friends are a black couple. And he finds it discouraging when people of his own race are "pulling the card". But that being said it is also discouraging when we go out to eat and the server treats us different than they would if it were just my hubby and I. THe ignorance is rampant. I guess what I was trying to say, that although this is a far fetched idea, the only way we will move on is if EVERYBODY moves past skin color.
As far as the remarks you made about housing, you have a point too. However I can tell you that in the city where I live they are tearing down housing projects to build brand new houses, and you have to be a low income minority to be able to buy one. This is turning into the premier area of our town, which is wonderful, but also discriminatory for those who are not African American that want to live there.
Discrimination works both ways. Our school district just went back to neighborhood schools instead of a school choice program, and although we live in a "white" neighborhood, my daughter goes to a school that is predominately "black". SHe comes home in tears somedays becasue she gets picked on for being white. Is that fair? No, it's not. But I believe that these problems begin in the household, and maybe it's time grown ups start acting like grown ups and eventually nip this in the bud.
@JaLuvYa (175)
• United States
17 Nov 07
"Why can't I just be a dumb b***h?"- LMAO. I feel you on that one though. Prejudice and discrimination can go both ways- you are absolutely right! But racism really does exist and not all African Americans are trying to hold on to this "ghost" from our past and looking for excuses and handouts. However, we cannot pretend like we don't live what we live. I have four little brothers and once they get to be about twelve you find yourself worried about whether they are coming home or not everyday. Not just because of black on black violence but because you know how the justice system works and all it takes is them to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and there goes the rest of their lives. I have very intelligent little brothers. My 14 year old brother wants to be a doctor- he took the entrance exams and scored very high and was accepted to three private Catholic schools. In the end he was denied access to a quality education because he has locks in his hair.
My other little brother has been repeatedly stopped and frisked and layed out on the ground by police. Not because he actually did anything but because he fit a description.
Whether it's education for your kids, shopping for a mortgage for your house or watching the city officials let the city go to watse so they can rebuild once all the residents they don't want here leave... we cannot afford to pretend racism doesn't exist.
There are three types of African Americans.
1.) Plays the card on the regular basis and uses it as an excuse for not moving forward in life. They never go anywhere. Progress is not in their vocabulary. Clothes, Jewelry, cars, and other "Keeping up with the Jone's" items are all that really matter.
2.) Uncle Tom, who plays the token negro in white boardrooms across America and doesn't really like himself or people that look like him. He tries very hard to be white and usually is very disconnected from family and old friends. He never comes back to lend a hand and help pull up another brother or sister up from the "hood". He will even go so far to say that racism is not a modern day problem.
3.) Realizes the problem of racism and spends a great deal of time gathering the knowlegde to raise himself above the obstacles that he knows he is going to face because of the color of his skin. Realizes that he has to be twice as good as his counterparts. Makes no excuses. He will suceed in what he sets his mind to and even if he only reaches back to pull one person up... he will. He knows the value of his journey. But he will not deny that racism shapes the lives of many of us.
I wish that we had more #3's though. However, the argument of systematic racism is still valid but it is up to us as African Americans to develop our own solutions to better our situation. Unfortunately, it is alot easier to say "move on" when it it is not your kid being discriminated against, when it is not your life that is being affected by it.
Believe me, I'd love for us to move on, even if it just allows me to get the same interest rates on a loan and a equal education for my daughter without having to figure out how to pay expensive private school tuitions. I'd love to turn on the tv and not have to hear about another Jena 6 or find out that they burned another cross at Fredonia State (they kept that one hushed many years back). I would love to pretend that there is not a very active KKK chapter in the next town over. But that is just not our reality.
To answer the question though, not only is hanging the nooses racist... it's cowardly. I have no respect for men or women that hide behind sheets and in the shadows. You want me to know how you feel about me being black- say it to my face. Anyone not big enough to do that is not worth my time in protest.
@dobyladysaturn (151)
• United States
24 Nov 07
Yes racism is still a problem in some places and probably always will be. I don't know if this was a case of it or not. Don't know if it was before Halloween or not and just now hitting the news. We need to know more before making a judgement. People tend to jump to conclusions before they have all the facts. I personally don't like nooses in any way but that is just me.
@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
21 Nov 07
"Racism" is actually a form of discrimination. Humans naturally are discriminatory by nature: We like to know that we have a choice and enjoy being able to make a choice. Have you noticed that you never always select the very first item on the menu of any resturant?
That having said, I think what we often refer to as racism is more of a display of inferiority complex and insecurity. While the USA is noted for its terrible and inhumane pre-social relationship between Whites and Blacks, the racial element we often see in conflicts are merely evidence of unresolved issues in the nation (the result of slavery and the hostile takeover of lands from Native Americans and Mexicans down South) -
Of course, during those years of slavery and White domination, most Whites prided themselves as superior beings due to the fact that they alone could read and write in English. Obviously, this was the only source of self-esteem that most of these ignorant and insecure Whites had. And when Blacks and others became literate in the official language of the land, most of these Whites that had done nothing to build their sense of self worth became very threatened by these literate non-Whites. Though slavery had officially been abolished and the various groups appeared to be integrating, these group of Whites continued to live in denial of this possible intellectual equality amongst the conquered and the conqueror.
The long and short of this issue is that, most Whites that had prided themselves on being superior simply due to their ability to read and to write have a terrible time accepting that others could be as intelligent or more intelligent, and often live in denial of this fact. There are several ignorant Whites and the likes of them that just would not accept that anyone else could be as intelligent or more intelligent than a White person. And, this takes us to just where I started: What we often refer to as racism is merely a display of inferiority complex and insecurity!
@dbmax41 (585)
• United States
20 Nov 07
Racism isnt what it use to be. In the 60s people were beat up. In the 50s people were killed. Nowa days people find a noose and all hell breaks loose. No words were attached. Some mean person just wanted to feak people out or make attention. Racism still exists but its weak. Not right either.
@Snowlyluo (10)
• China
17 Nov 07
I don't think it is of any hell fun!And yes racism is still prevalent not only in the states,but also some other contries.In order to behave like a educated person,many people claim that every race is equel,there is no distinction between black and white,India and easterner...But in most cases,they do have prejudice against people who are not in their "group",they are just hypocritical persons.And you can not tell,so never hold that there is no racism now because more and more people"pay attention"to this issue.Elimilating racism is a long-term project, it needs generations's and globle effort.