How teachers remember students!
By SViswan
@SViswan (12051)
India
November 22, 2007 3:34am CST
Have you noticed that though teachers want the students to be well-behaved, they hardly remember the quiet and well-behaved kids years later. They always remember the notorious kids or the kids with the good grades.
So, what's the point in being average and good if no one even notices you? If you have to make an impact and have a place in the teacher's mind, you need to get low grades or high grades (mind you, not average) or you have to playing pranks all the time and getting into trouble or being the star student.
What is your opinion?
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17 responses
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
22 Nov 07
Hi dear
very true of u that teacher only remember students either having good grades or students giveing them hard time
Well as u have deleted the option of good and average student then left eith get good grades or being notorious.
Well to be optmistic, work hard and try to get best marks and have good grades, but its not easy and sure all cant achieve that, so why dont go for easy option, get notorious, atleast u will be noticeable
other thing, if u cant be good in studies try to work hard in co curricilar activities, sports etcs
Take care
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 Nov 07
lol...it's not me! I was a good student with good grades and a teacher at a school where I studied a year forgot me! That's what got me thinking. I was a good student and participated in all activities at school. The other 2 schools where I studied (5 years each) - all the teachers remember me. Fortunately, my son gets good grades and is also quite friendly with EVERYONE at school. So, I'm sure no one will forget him.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Nov 07
Hi, my name is Sandhya and I don't think I am very popular on myLot...lol
Yes, children who were in hostels would be remembered more (maybe because there would be only a few from each class and the teachers are personally responsible for them like their own kids.....unless it is a fully residential school).
Thank you for your response and have a nice day!
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
22 Nov 07
quite quick dear
can i have ur name pls
well i was in school and lived in hostel
still teacher remember me as i was not taking high grades, though i was always in top 10
but i think number of student in class, frequency of classes, and involvement of teacher also matters
i was in Public school and they total have 560 students from class 7 to 12. Teachers were also living at school residences, differnt teachers were incharge of differnt hostels (7 hostel as total) various teachers were incharge of differnt clubs, societies so interaction was more
and nice to know that u were popular icon back in ur school as u r now at myLOT
take care
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
22 Nov 07
That's why you should be doing things for yourself and not for your teacher. :P
I suppose I shouldn't talk, as I'm one of those ones the teachers remember. Comments like "Apply yourself, you stupid genius!" come to mind. I have ex-teachers that occasionally still ask members of my family if I ever did actually apply myself to something, or whether I'm still slinking around reading horror novels and telling everyone else they are too stupid to live. *giggles*
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Nov 07
lol..you just proved what I posted!
And you are right about the part where you should be doing for yourself and not for the teacher...try telling that to a young child who doesn't know how to handle their emotions. Then I guess it's the parent's responsibility to give them the confidence that they need.
Thanks for your response...I enjoyed it:)
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
24 Nov 07
lol...you sound like you were a normal kid. I'm sure my son's just like that...and where there is freedom, it's usually the most intelligent child who is the most annoying:P They've got too many thoughts running around in their head and not enough time to ask...question and explore..lol As a teacher, personally, I think that's good. I would worry if my child wasn't like that.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
23 Nov 07
Yeah I thought you were pretty on target with your post, from what I've seen. All my teachers remembered me, and I never did well, but I was both extremely intelligent and extremely annoying and never on task. :P
I hadn't thought about how kids think and feel, because I was never a normal kid I guess. You have a point, though. I suppose that is where parents should come in.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
22 Nov 07
What a correct observation. I think you were associated with the teaching profession yourself…how many goody goody ones do you remember^ ^
But the use is not so much for us as kids, rather than for society at large when we become adults. As kids we are taught to be polite, gentle and well-behaved in class, sharing and caring types, so that as adults we continue to show such traits to our fellow citizens. And then again most poor students are lost in life while the excellent ones shine so high that they are lost to the masses. So its students like me, the average mediocre types, who make up the bulk of the population. We struggle with hope, we strive for betterment, we aspire for enhanced lives for our kids, we socialize constructively and we form the backbone of the nation’s economy. So no matter whether my teachers remember me or not (I dislike most teachers anyway, I find them too self-important), I am happy with my mediocrity.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Nov 07
lol...yes, I am associated with the teaching profession. But fortunately I have a good memory and remember all of my kids. But I handle a younger age-group and what I have noticed is that most of the children who act up are actually crying for attention and that's why they behave that way. So, once you get the root cause, everything else falls in place and all my kid are lovely kids (I believe that not all kids are born bad or naughty..it's their experience and circumstances which make them that way).
Good for you that you are happy with the person that you are:)
But there are students who are well-behaved and try hard to please the teacher. Of course, a dedicated teacher would see that and encourage such a child when they are in the teacher's care. But they tend to forget the average student once they are out of their class (mainly because -like you said - they are the majority).
Thanks for the response!
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
23 Nov 07
It's not just teachers, "average" people are never remembered for much of anything. The thing is, most average people prefer it that way.
My brother bought the house we all grew up in. When his kids started going to the high school we graduated from, teachers and students saw their last name and asked if they were related to "John Doe"... they laughed and told them he is their dad. My brother graduated in 92!
He is remembered by teachers and students for being the first Goth in the school. They call him, "The Godfather of the Goths". The funniest part is, he hasn't returned to the school or been to any class reunions... yet he is vividly remembered.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
25 Nov 07
Goths are a subculture who are into vampires, horror themes and cemeteries. They kind of came out of the late 70/early 80s era of punk, but separated themselves from their roots pretty quickly (most Goths now can't stand any form of punk).
Here's what good ol' Wikipedia has to say about them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture
Anyway, my brother makes your point quite well. Most straight A students who stood out in all crowds aren't remembered like he has been. ;~D
@nothingbetter2do (235)
• Australia
22 Nov 07
I have been teaching Sunday School for many years and yes, I agree. I can only remember the naughty kids. That's because I'll have to yell/tell them to be quiet every 5 minutes!!
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@jongsky (31)
• Philippines
23 Nov 07
In the teachers perspective, you are right, teachers remember their students who either excel in the class or those who are naughty, bully, or talkative. Teachers hardly remember those who are just average in performance in class.
But in the students perspective, i guess it will not matter whether the Teacher remembers him/her, for as long as he/she has learned from his/her teacher. that is the legacy that the teacher left for their students.I believe that even if teachers dont remember their students but students will surely remember their teachers. and i believe that is the essence of education.
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
22 Nov 07
I think you are very wrong...
Teachers remember the good and the bad.
What is your point anyway?
Is there a reason why you need your teacher to remember you?
@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 Nov 07
Of course, it would be nice if a teacher remembered me.
Yes, the teachers remember the VERY good and the VERY bad...not the average good ones. Well...a teacher didn't remember me (it didn't help that I was there only for a year) even though I had good grades and then I thought about which group do teachers remember years later. There were other teachers in the school who didn't even teach me and they remember me...but the teacher who taught me didn't (I assumed it was because I never got into trouble).
@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Nov 07
Don't get me wrong. I don't think the teacher can remember ALL of them. I just pointed out that the ones that stay in a teacher's memory are the ones that were notorious or got very good grades. The teachers don't really remember the ones who tried to please them by working hard or who didn't really give them much trouble. It's just something for teachers to think about.
I had a principal at one of the schools that I studies and she knew EVERYONE by name. I was quite impressed when I went to invite her for my wedding (which was around 11 years after I last saw her) and she remember me as soon as she saw me.
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
22 Nov 07
Well... you must not forget that...
Depending in what sort of school the teacher is...
He/She could have over 500 students a year
Multiply that by 40 years...
That is 20.000 students...
How can the teacher remember them all?
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
22 Nov 07
Absoultely right. My observations are the same about teachers. I agree with you that they remember notorious students better than the brighter ones or the average ones. A student has to cultivate some special qualities (either good or bad) so as to be remembered by a teacher.
Good Post indeed!
Deepak
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@subathra (3519)
• India
23 Nov 07
I too agree with you that teachers remember naughty and outstanding students..its just the impact every student leave in the minds of teachers and its not possible for the teacher to remember every student all time...only during the schooling times she /he remembers all her student depending upon the abilities of each student..but not for many years..
This feb 2007 I attended my schools annual function along with some of my old class mates..when the function was over and all of us went to thank our principal, correspondent and teachers..some of the teachers went into those deep memories and shared soem incident with us..they well remember one of my classmate who used to be a naughty boy in class..extremely naughty and he was also present in the function..and enquiring with him about those days...being an outstanding is always a credit and average students remain those forgetted ones..
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
22 Nov 07
Although it is true that some of the very worst delinquents get remembered, they are not remembered in a good way. Although we do not equate "quiet" students with being good student in particular, those students who put in the most effort are the ones my husband and I remember and in some cases keep as friends long after they have graduated and we have retired from teaching.
Although there is some pressure on students to be "average" the term "average and good" confuses me because in our culture average is not considered to be good. At least it didn't used to be. Sure expecting people to try to be above average puts pressure on them, but maybe that kind of pressure is not such a bad thing, individually or for society as a whole. My opinion is that almost all students can get good grades and perform well above average if they want to, and that they should want to. If we apply the same reasoning to religious fervor or craftsmanship you will see what I mean. We want everyone to be all they can be, not just obedient.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Nov 07
The notorious ones are remembered (I didn't say in a good way).
My concept of education is quiet different from the conventional concept followed in India. I agree that all students are capable of getting good grades and it's upto the teachers to guide them and bring out the best in them. And that's exactly where we have the problem. In conventional schools, the teachers focus more on the students who are doing exceptionally well (which is not much effort on the teacher's part) or the one's who are weak (because the school's or the teacher's reputation is at stake). The so-called average group can get good grades if they probably got a little attention from the teachers.
Your attitude is the right attitude that a teacher should have...but unfortunately that's not the case in most of our conventional schools in India. My son had a teacher (and he's only 7 and in second grade) who felt she had to put him in place because he was smart and participating in every activity at school. I would love it if my students enjoyed school as much as my son did. My son is getting good grades..but his present teacher (I moved him into a different section) thinks that even if he is getting good grades, he has potential to do better. That's what I like. Push the child to do the best they can...and not really bother about who's doing better than who.
Oh...I can go on and on about education .....but I've moved away from the actual discussion topic:P
Thanks for the response.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
23 Nov 07
You absolutely did the right thing in moving your scon. I am so sorry, too, that happened to your family, and in truth, we see quite a bit of it here, too. The reason I misunderstood is that there is so much emphasis now on people conforming in classes and it is true that the quiet ones can get ignored. There is more emphasis on excelling in sports, for example, than in excelling in math or history. Thanks for clarifying.
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@liera0 (280)
• Philippines
28 Nov 07
I've been teaching for quiet a time now. I barely remember the names of my past students but when I see I can recall faces and find it familiar. I got different students for every semester so it's been quiet a lot. Well it can't be help if there are snobbish students. I spend time just talking to them when i got nothing to do or while waiting the next class. Talking about life, there feelings ,there problems. For those I find it nice.
@liera0 (280)
• Philippines
1 Dec 07
Well I usually remember the good ones. Specially those who excel in the subject and those that don't excel but always willing to learn. Students who asks many questions so they will understand the lesson I am giving.The rest I can only remember their faces.
@SpankMe (68)
• Philippines
22 Nov 07
my mum is a teacher and she remembers a few,if not, a lot of her students. my mom loves her work. i know. it shows. since she is working in a public school and majority of her students are poor, sometimes she cooks food or buys one for all of them. i could say that she has some favorites. because they are industrious or intelligent. hehe
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@ilsksaa11 (36)
• China
22 Nov 07
i agree with you!and i think students who always make good grades or great troubles usually get more succession after gratuate from school!
it seems that they have talent to make people remember them, so it is natural for teachers to remember them better!
@happygreat (172)
• China
14 Dec 07
I can call everystudent's names nowadays.I have a lot of students but I think each one has different characteristics. So i think itis very good to remember them.
@saivenkaat802003 (4823)
• India
23 Nov 07
At present i am employed in an Government office, for the past 15 years.
One Tamil teacher, who taught me during the school days ( some 25 years back) after his retirement has taken up,an Agency in our office.
When he happens to come to my office, i used to stand up, and never sit before him, and still he compels me to sit and do my work.
He is so proud of me, and used to tell my Boss, how i performed in my school, the small small incidents, which happened during my school days..
Hearing this, my Boss gets elated..
A true teacher, always helps his student in all walks of life, even out of schooling days.
@spiderlizard22 (3444)
• United States
22 Nov 07
Would you rather have the teacher remember you as being a bad student?
@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 Nov 07
Frankly, no. Naughty..I can handle...but not a bad student.
This is just an off-hand theory in my head..lol
I'm sure there are teachers who remember all their students (but they are a minority).
I was a little surprised that the teacher didn't remember me...because we did interact a lot though I was there only a year (it's been 17 years since and I'm not really blaming her for not remembering me...it's just that I was surprised...thought too much of myself..lol)
@moneyislife (89)
• Hong Kong
22 Nov 07
Well its good to be known by people who taught you years before but I rather be a well-behaved kids than a trouble maker haha.