No using grocery bags, now where do I put my kitchen waste.
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40193)
Canada
November 29, 2007 10:39am CST
I have started to use the cloth bags and those black and green bags you get from Safeway and Superstore now, but now I run into a problem. I was discussing this with my friend the other day, we found that now that we use cloth and nylon bags, what do we use as kitchen canister bags in the meantime. Before this recyclable thing came up, we used the Safeway or Superstore plastic bags as kitchen can bags. We did not think it was economical to buy separate kitchen canister bags. We also live in Manitoba and it has already started to have our permanent winter snow. So in late fall and winter, we cannot put the scraps on a compost and the bins are expensive.
The only time we get plastic bags is when we are shopping for presents, etc. So how does this effect you? Has the elimination of plastic grocery bags present you with the problem. "What do i put in my kitchen garbage bin?"
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@BayleighGray (4334)
• United States
29 Nov 07
Hi Suspenseful,
I thought about getting a couple of those bags, our Kroger store is making them available now. I thought ahead and considered the end of my grocery bags to fill the bathroom and bedroom trash cans. They fit perfectly!
Maybe you could shop once without the nylon bags and gather a few plastic bags once a while to keep them plentiful. I guess if you go to the grocery store more than once a month, you could probably get enough to last you that long. Buying them will just cost you, and why do that when these are free?
Bay Lay Gray xx
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@Modestah (11179)
• United States
29 Nov 07
I noticed this week that walmart was offering reusable bags for $1 each and the military commissary was also offering them at 70cents each. I was wondering if there was something special about this past week and the quest to abolish plastic bags.
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@BayleighGray (4334)
• United States
29 Nov 07
Yeah I had never noticed them at Kroger before last week. And I did see some at Wal-Mart today too! I'm not going for it, I'm cheap and I'm not buying bags for my little trash cans when I can just use the bags I get from shopping each week. I have a large trash bag full of them under my kitchen sink. LOL I need to tell my sis to crochet me one of those holder thingy's, she can make those!
Bay xx
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
It has to do with saving the environment. I did buy a couple of those $1 bags at Superstore, and sometimes I do not have enough so I get plastic bags, but it is now just the two of us and we have enough recyclable bags to hold our groceries. I will have to scrounge some more.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
30 Nov 07
Oops. That is a great question. In my area, you can buy a cloth bag for .99, or an insulated bag for 1.99.All the supermarkets still have the plastic bags.Your supermarket doesn't have Any plastic bags?
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
They have, but we now shop at Superstore and they charge for the plastic bags.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
5 Dec 07
I think it is about two cents, or a few cents extra. It could be ten cents, but even that adds up.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
3 Dec 07
Oh no! Charging for plastic bags? How much a bag?
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
6 Dec 07
You are not alone in this dilemma.
The houses today are all built with a central chute for rubbish.
I cannot imagine not using a plastic bag to store my trash before disposing of it in the central chute.
Now there is this green movement to reduce the use of plastic bags. And the store owners are all for it.
My only source of plastic bags are going to diminish with time.
Back when they design the houses with the rubbish chute at a corner of the kitchen, we can still make do with paper bags to dispose of our rubbish as we are most likely to throw them out immediately.
Now with the central chute, I cannot imagine if someone did not use a plastic bag for his trash. If his trash is wet, he'd be dripping all the way to the chute, all along the corridor.
Who the heck is going to be cleaning up his mess?
Sigh... the architect of today really cannot compare to the architects of the old school. Back then, the really design the flats to be ergonomic and functional. Now a days, the architects are more interested in looks and fanciful designs rather and function and form.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
7 Dec 07
That is rather selfish. So humans do not count, only the earth counts. What are we going to do? Throw all the kitchen waste on the streets and have another epidemic of the bubonic plague, because if we worship the Earth that is what is going to happen. Should be tear down the apartment buildings? Where are apartment dwellers to throw their waste? We can build gardens on the balconies and the top, but that should be so the flat dwellers can have some extra tomatoes or beans not to save the Earth. Feeding the people should matter more than protecting the earth.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
6 Dec 07
I never imagined that this would affect those people who lived in flats and apartments. At least as a home owner, I can bring my garbage bag to the back, put my garage in it, and take it outside, but well there is going to be a big smell when much of that stuff all the apartment dwellers falls down the chute. This is a case of the environmentalists short sightedness. They are more interested in the earth and less in those who occupy the earth.
@gmakesmoney (2923)
• United States
4 Dec 07
Well just the other day I got an email with Green tips and it turns out that there are companies that make Green garbage bags that decompost or are made from recycled products. The other thing is that when you need some bags, don't use the cloth bags for your next shopping trip, and that way you can get some bags for your kitchen. It's not like you're just throwing them out, you're recycling them. I use them for the kitchen, bathroom and bedroom bins as well as for cleaning out the cat box.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
5 Dec 07
Well we were supposed to shop at Safeway yesteday, but my husband wanted see all of Babylon Five on Season Four so we did not. So now we have to go back to shopping at Superstore and we have to pay for the plastic bags and I do not want to. Also at Safeway I get some products we cannot get at Superstore.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
I wish I lived in the States, but my husband loves cold and flat too much. (: We were at this motel, I have no idea what state it was (kind of hard to get used to crossing two or three states in a day) and it was where the hill country changed to flat, and my husband was almost persuaded that this would be a good place to live. I never went to Target, and I would sure love to go. We went Christmas shopping and now we have four plastic bags. I guess I will have to go shopping for some Christmas presents as well, but right now the temperature is -20. Well something will show up.
@gmakesmoney (2923)
• United States
6 Dec 07
Men and their DVD's, lol. I wouldn't pay for the shopping bags either and would just wait until you can get to the store that has them free. Oh, Target makes the strongest ones I've found so far.
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@betsyraeduke (2670)
• United States
7 Dec 07
That's a tough one. I use the plastic grocery bags for most of my garbage too.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
7 Dec 07
We shopped at Superstore again and did not want to pay for the grocery bags. I have two or three bags left because my husband went and bought some stuff at Home Depot, and then at Romas, but one bag is almost fill up.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
7 Dec 07
I do not like paying for plastic bags, but I guess the environmentalists do not really care about people. I did some Christmas shopping so I gor three extra bags, but now I am almost broke so I will have to weak until a week before Christmas to get some more.
@betsyraeduke (2670)
• United States
7 Dec 07
We don't have to pay for plastic or paper grocery bags here. The groceries or whatever items we buy are just automatically bagged in either paper or plastic of the customer's choosing for no extra charge. That's why I use those bags, cause I don't have to buy them where as if I got regular trash bags, I would have to buy them.
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@breezie (1246)
• Canada
3 Dec 07
I have teh same problem. I used to have tons of plastic bags now I only have a few. I mostly use cloth bags, but once in a while I forget them and end up with a couple plastic bags. We used most of my old bags taking our dog out, but now I just buy the little doggy bags. They are $1 for 100 so it's not too bad and they are alot smaler than a shopping bag. Weonly used the small shopping bags for our bathroom garbage as our kitchen can is a bigger one with a lid, so we just put regular garbage bags in it.
@breezie (1246)
• Canada
4 Dec 07
Our garbage bags are not the regular green ones either. Our town will only pick up certain bags that you have to buy. They are either $1 each for small ones or $1.75 for the big ones. We mostly use the small ones becasue I don't want to pay twice for garbage bags.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
5 Dec 07
At least we still have the green garbage bags, but I would not be surprised if they eliminate them as well. With the grocery bags, at least when it is warm, I can get them out to the garbage can as soon as possible.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
3 Dec 07
I used to have quite a number of plastic bags, but now I only have two. So we will have to shop at Safeway where they still have plastic bags for FREE! I have a regular sized kitchen can, and I do not like to keep a green garbage bags in the kitchen.
@cblackink (969)
• United States
5 Dec 07
I actually just buy the garbage bags that fit into my kitchen garbage can. I use the grocery store bags for a smaller trash can in the bathroom, so I'm really not wasting them. My kitchen garbage can is way too big for the grocery store bags anyway.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
4 Dec 07
Hey, good for you and your friend too. There is an easy solution to your problem. You can buy proper bin liners in all sizes in your supermarket. They are as cheap as chips and are bio-degradable.
What cheeses me off is that the supermarkets don't lower their pries due to less bags being used. Plastic shopping bags are quite expensive and of course the cost is passed on to the consumer. Then again, I guess in an overall perspective it would be only a tiny saving for them/shoppers.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
5 Dec 07
We shop at Superstore and although much of the stuff is cheaper, I find Yoghurt there is more expensive, and also they do not have eggs in the 18 family pack, but only the one dozen so if I am using a lot of eggs, I have to pick up two cartons. So they do not lower their prices that much.
@happythoughts (4109)
• United States
10 Dec 07
I do use my cloth bags occasionaly. When I am grocery shopping and there will be a lot of bags I do not have enough of the cloth ones to go around so I end up with some plastic. I save them all and use them up. I know that they are not the best things for the environment but if the stores are going to give them to me I will use them as garbage bags. If not I use actual purchaced garbage bags and they are the same except for the cost to me. Is there another sanitary way to get rid of trash with out bags to keep it all together? I guess we could just keep washing out the trash can but then we would be wasting water.
My mind will be on this for a while.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
10 Dec 07
I guess the environmentalists did not think of that one. We do most of our shopping at Superstore where you have to pay for the plastic bags. I do have enough cloth bags for all my groceries, so I have to get the plastic bags elsewhere. I have enough for a couple of times. Yes washing out the trash can will be wasting water only ours have holes in the bottom for drainage. Why? How can we hold the trash inside?
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
we still use plastic bags here, for people to pick up the garbage for free. but if we dump them at city dump they charge $ 2 each bag. if not I will use cardboard boxes, we can get them for free (plastic bags or boxes after grocery) we also have a burner, so we can burn some types of garbage (not all)
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
We were told by the city that we cannot burn our papers. We used to have a place where we could take our paper and plastics and get cash back about a mile away, but the city decided that we did not need the money THEY DID.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
We used to have an old fashioned pot boiled stove when we lived in
Saskatoon, but we sold the house and the basement here was not finished and they will not allow us to build a place to burn stuff outside.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
I mean we burn it in our burner, not another place. We had something like a fireplace (I don't remember what it's called) and we will sort out paper from other garbages. Some papers we can use again so we take these to recycling. Some we can't so these ones we burn.
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@Modestah (11179)
• United States
29 Nov 07
many dept. type discount stores will have a bin in the front of their store for people to bring their plastic shopping bags for recycling, you could likely ask the store worker or manager if you could take some of them. I bet they would be happy to comply.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
We have that at Safeway, but it would not look right for me to dive in.
@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
30 Nov 07
I hate those plastic grocery bags!!! I always ask for paper bags if they are available because we burn our paper gargbage and the paper bags are great to collect the paper garbage in.
I buy regular garbage bags for my kitchen canister. They are much stronger than those grocery bags and they hold a ton more.
Want some bags, I have many I could give you.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
We are not allowed to burn our paper, the city is afraid of pollution. I will have to go back to using the old green plastic bugs and store the garbage can near the house and then take it out before garbage day. I really hate doing it, because in winter, it really snows and the snow is deep and our gate gets blocked up. I will have to search my house to see if I find more grocery bags. I did find five yesterday.
@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
30 Nov 07
I live in the country, so we burn our papers. We have to take our garbage and recycleables to the dump once a week. No garbage pickup here.
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@chrislotz (8137)
• Canada
13 Dec 07
I too live in Manitoba and so I know what you mean. I use a recycle bin for most of my garbage, as I have recycle pick up. Do you not have it in the area you live in? And I have a garberator in my kitchen, so I flush a lot of stuff down that way. But I still have other garbage that I have to put in bags. I have the same problem as you, I use the cloth bags now too. I have gone to the landfill and I have seen what those plastic bags do. There are so many flying around I was totally shocked. So I did the enviromental thing and bought the cloth bags. Now I am buying plastic bags. So it is now costing me more money plus it isn't helping the enviromental thing because all I'm doing is replacing the free ones with the ones I had to buy. I don't think there is a right answer to this one, to getting rid of the plastic bags.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Dec 07
Oh are you in trouble. You got 666 besides your name.:) I have a recycle bin where I put my papers and tin cans and I take my pop cans to the Church school to help pay for some of the school supplies. I have a garberator and I shove much of the vegetation down. Do you know that orange peels are good for making the drain pipe not smell? I use the cloth bags because Stupidstore, alias Superstore wants you to pay for your plastic grocery bags. We used to shop at Safeway and the plastic bags deteriorated over time.
The only time we get plastic bags is those green garbage bags to rake up the leaves and grass (that I sometimes sneak on my garden when my husband is not looking) and when we go shopping elsewhere like around Christmas time. I have used up all our old plastic bags and paper bags are no good as they do get wet.
I have no idea what the environmentalists were thinking. Mind you we could dump everything that we cannot put in the garden in the blue box and then have the picker uppers wear gas masks. :)
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
I have also started to use the cloth bags and find sometimes I am running out of plastic bags. In Toronto the city has now issued green bins with secure lids and picks up kitchen waste in those bins. But I live in a high rise and the program has not extended to it, so yes I buy separate kitchen canister bags also but I use them sparingly. I shop at Nofrills and they charge for plastic bags at the checkout. Sometimes I buy a couple, otherwise I save all the thin plastic bags from the store when I buy mushrooms and other veggies or fruits. I put my kitchen waste in these, in small quantities and put them out at least once a day or more. For the garbage cans in the bathrooms I use those sturdy paper bags with the string handles that you get when shopping at the Bay or other department stores. Those last a long time. I pick them up by the handles when I clean and dump the contents in the canister bag and put the empty paper bag back into the bathroom garbage cans.
I can see your problem though. It is already winter where you live and you can't put your kitchen waste in the composter. Maybe your city will start picking up kitchen waste in the near future.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
I hope so. It gets rather cold here to walk through the snow and dig a hole where the compost heap is and dump all the salad and veggie waste there.
@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
1 Dec 07
We're going to have this problem soon, as our city council is looking at banning the plastic grocery bags. I am not certain what we will do.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
1 Dec 07
Right now you have to pay extra if you put your groceries in shopping bags in Superstore, and I would not be surprised if that extends to the other grocery chains and that would be as effective as a ban.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
4 Dec 07
i salute your place for eliminating the use of plastic bags. they are really the major source of garbage here in our country. and we are really far from eliminating plastic bags and using paper bags and other organic materials instead. plastic bags are so widely used here, in malls, markets, groceries, etc. there are only few who are actually using paper bags. those that use plastic bags say that it is economical. that's why i can't help but wonder if plastic bags are cheaper than paper bags. coz i have this notion that those brown paper bags are cheaper than plastic bags. ^__^;;
i can't really think of a very good suggestion for you and all i can think of is the black garbage plastic which the janitors usually use here in the office when collecting thrash. ^__^
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Dec 07
We do need plastic bags here, because in the winter we cannot throw our garbage onto the compost pile, and we do have recycling for the rest.
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
30 Nov 07
I buy the garbage bags that fit into my garbage bin if I don't have any plastic shopping bags to use.
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@fab315 (1231)
• Philippines
2 Dec 07
Hello!
Here, all the grocery shops are still using plastic bags so it's an advantage. Although I buy those big garbage bags, I still use those plastic grocery bags for the rubbish, it's useful and cheap making you save money, recycling. I dunno what i'll do without plastic bags, it must be very hard to where to put all your rubbish. Take care. *smile*
ciao! c",)
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
2 Dec 07
We have ten percent Tuesday coming up, so what I will do is to take just two carryon bags, and get some plastic bags. At least SAfeway does not charge for them, not like Superstore.
@smwilliams (647)
• United States
30 Nov 07
Although going "green" is all the new rage and is wonderful for our envirornment I have run across this same problem. If you have a trash service see if you can do bagless trash. However you will have to clean your trash can a lot to make sure it doesnt get too disgusting. I have heard that they have super biodegratable bags that are made of recycled paper product. Which is a lot safer for the envirornment and they are recycled so you dont have to feel as guilty about using them in the winter months.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
30 Nov 07
They should have those super biogratable bags here as well instead of the ones made of plastic.