Bali talks to seek global climate deal
By Aussies2007
@Aussies2007 (5336)
Australia
December 2, 2007 10:36am CST
About 190 nations begin talks on the Indonesian island of Bali on Monday to build on a "fragile understanding" that the fight against global warming needs to be expanded to all nations with a deal in 2009.
So far, only 36 industrialised nations in the Kyoto Protocol have caps on greenhouse gas emissions running to 2012.
However, bleak UN reports this year warning of more heatwaves, droughts and rising seas have said global curbs are needed fast.
But working out a fair share of curbs on emissions, mainly from burning fossil fuels, between rich countries and poor nations led by China and India will be a huge puzzle.
Rich nations want developing nations to at least brake the rise of their emissions - China is opening a new coal-fired power plant at the rate of more than one a week and is set to overtake the United States as the top emitter.
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3 responses
@bbsr13 (4196)
• India
2 Dec 07
Hello, Aussies! earlier many a times different countries have set together to find a solution to global warming.it is an accepted fact that the industrialised nations are top contributers to green house gas emissions.they are all economically advanced ,they should take the lead to control green house gas emissions and then impose some restrictions on the developing countries.now india and china are gradually reaching the high level of green house gas emission.not only that but also all countries should ban falling of trees,restrict consumption of oil in the streets.thanks for discussion.keep on.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
3 Dec 07
It is all about economics...
Countries like America and Australia have greatly suffered from cheap imports from countries like china for the past 30 years.
Reducing pollution means extra costs for industries. If America and Australia has to increase its manufacturing costs to reduce pollution... while China does not... it means that China will kill off the rest of our manufacturers and will get 100% of the market.
The west cannot allow this to happen. What we are saying is that if we have to increase our costs to reduce pollution... so does China and India... so that the costs remain the same for everyone.
It is not the fault of America that India and China took 50 years longer to see the light and emerge as super powers. You were slow... and that's your fault. Don't blame America for your mistakes.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
3 Dec 07
Yes, global warming and its implications are serious topics of discussion world wide nowadays. As an aware citizen and mother, I understand its far-reaching implications and the urgency to work on a solution fast. Yet being from a third world nation, I sometimes hold a grudge against the developed countries. During most of the past century, these nations have almost stripped the earth naked of her riches, they have had the lion’s share of fuels to strengthen their own economy, they have dumped wastes on anywhere and everywhere and now that the developing nations want to catch up too, a lot of sanctions are being imposed, rules and laws discussed and protocols drawn up, expecting to be adhered to. Instead, if these nations, with all their advancement and wisdom, had acted a little less selfish and woken up to the degradation of nature about 50years back, the situation would not have been like this now. My argument maybe irrational, I know that the past is past but still I am an Indian and when I read that India is expected to do this, do that, curb this and that, I sometimes wonder where was this awareness amongst the rich nations when they were the sole masters of the earth? Now that they have reached a certain level of comfort for their citizens, they follow and want others to follow these guidelines too.
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
3 Dec 07
What you might not be aware of... is that the west... not only America... but the west... has reduced its pollution by 50 per cent since 1970.
While the west was controlling its pollution and its population... the population of India and China was doubling.
It is the population which cause the pollution... not the industry. The industry merely provides what the population demands. The smaller the population... the less industries.
The whole world is blaming America while not taking any responsability for itself.
America is just as guilty as the rest. But two wrongs has never made one right.
We are talking about saving the planet. If you want the right to be as greedy as America... the end result is that we are all going to die.
Furthermore... America can afford to live its life style because it has only 300 million people. More so... Australia can even afford it more with only 20 million people. But India and China... with over one billion people each... is just not on.
Make no mistake about it... India and China will be the ones destroying this planet through their pollution. If you don't care... that's fine by me... because I am too old to care about it.
@chanlego (6)
• Indonesia
3 Dec 07
Yes today the summit running at bali ( my lovely island ) as issue before Kyoto protocol already done. but US do not allow about Kyoto protocol. US say : They alredy have thier own way to recude the global warning with technology they developed now. it can kill thier industries if following kyoto protocol.
hope they all can meet and get better solution for our lovely planet.
