Are We Truly Going Forward, Progressing, Or Are We Going Backward?

I think you might be interested in seeing a discussion I did about religious intolerance then in my discussion here: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1351750.aspx It does hit on a lot of issues perpetuated by the church Yes, we are respecting the environment more, but is it too little too late? We should have started respecting and thinking of the consequences of what we were doing centuries ago.

I just read your Religious Intolerance Post and found it very profound, and well written. I agree it would have been best to have had this appreciation and respect for the Environment many years ago.It didn't happen! But isn't it Great that it is happening now, and I'm sure we still have time to reverse the ill effects. Thanks for these informative Posts!

It is a funny "spoof" type movie. But the sad thing is, I can actually see where a lot of it could actually come to be. It is very very scary. The fact that kids are using calculators in class now (mandatory) and we had to do math with pencil and paper (calculators were considered cheating) It's just one of the things that I see the is actually "dumbing down" our youth. Technology is wonderful and helps out tremendously, but we should make sure that we are able to do things without cell phones, computers, calculators, etc.

Sounds like a good spoof movie on how we are now. I think the sad fact is, a lot of us wouldn't know how to survive without machines as we've gotten to take everything for granted now. To be honest, since I never went camping for instance in my life (though still would someday) I wouldn't know the first thing about surviving in the "wild"...LOL.

oh, my poor computer, get 3 viruses and lot of other crop...I have to reinstall all programs.... I have second computer not connected to internet, so I can do my job. At least it all clean now and I can be on line...

I think one of the reasons there is perhaps a general feeling of negativity is that we're being bombarded with too much information in general and usually very negative. How often do we hear of happy, light-hearted news? It's nice to be "informed" but we don't have to be inundated either--though I admit couldn't live without my computer...by the way, did you get you're problem cleared up?

yes I have seen the movie a couple of times when on tv. I thought it was world war 2 that was to eand all wars for of the atomic bomb but like ya say it didnt stop the wars.. as for animal testing if they have another way they shold use it

Did you ever see that movie? I thought it was great What's amusing is, wasn't WWI supposed to be the war to end all wars? Yet we still have them. As far as meds, I think the useless continual testing of animals has created the problem..how can meds be effectively tested if tested on animals..there are other non-animal testing methods that have been known since the 1980s yet not used as much.

Oh, yes, as far as I can see, you're right about the invention of the computer...now that as far as I can see has been one of the greatest of all. Heck without it, we wouldn't be here right? I sometimes think however, with all our "gadgets" that family time has suffered. Just think how life must have been without computers, TVs,CD/DVDs players...uh, we might think of it as pretty dull now, but because of this lack of amusement/technology, families had to make for their own entertainment, and thus closer Yes, as far as medical. We've become a society that relies too much on medications when maybe an understanding of preventative measures on a more natural basis would be better. While the medications might help the initial problem, can create other problems, otherwise there wouldn't be the need for recalls of so many meds as causing serious life threatening conditions. That would be terrific if mankind evolved high enough to realize that wars don't solve anything, right?

I agree with both of you. I too am for old home remedies as well and plan to grow some when I have my own land - and maybe I'll suggest some for where I am now - or in our little yard. I think that we're both anti biotic resistant and the scientists are always fiddling with germs for germ warfare. We're overpopulated anyway, why not practice on us?

Yes, it seems we're just hurrying toward so called progress that is really destroying our world and our own lives.

That is so true.

That's one good point you make about kids not knowing history ...and what is the saying, if one doesn't know the past, one is condemned to repeat it?? Seems we are repeating our past history's mistakes

barehugs above you made the point how now we've been respecting the environment more and are more aware of the consequences of what we've been doing to the environment, but it's a shame we hadn't given a thought about what we were doing to our planet years, and years ago.

Meant to add...Now we're scrambling to undo all the damage we've done for centuries

Thank you for thinking this a great topic :) Maybe that is why in our grandparents or great-grandparents day, there wasn't so much food contamination as most people did grow their own foods and cooked from scratch. There just weren't processed foods, well yes so-called "canned" foods, but even those were done at home. My great-grandmother always canned her own foods. And yes all those recalls about lead paint. I can't help wondering just how many things in general that are made in China have lead paint and haven't been recalled.

A lot of people tried to ban the Harry Potter books as well, some fanatics would actually have book burnings..so what, are some getting to be like the nazis?? I've heard about the conspiracy theories about 911--why I thought of this don't know..Now my time to ramble a bit. Ever see that movie The Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts? He played a neurotic character who believed everything in life was a conspiracy, but it turned out many of his paranoia was actually true..LOL So who knows? Maybe there is some truth behind some of the conspiracies in real life as well.

So, yay, we're falling backwards perhaps so someone else's scheme can spring forward.

I hadn't heard of the book burnings. My husband, a pagan at heart (he has issues with Christians) says that Harry Potter and The Compass are subtly anti-christian. Not sure though. We are not fanatical, but I think its a good idea to be prepared for anything. Even FEMA will tell you to have a certain amount of emergency food - however their are currently laws in place against 'hoarding' having too much food - can you believe it. Even if there isn't a collapse as some people believe - the real 2012 - the awakening not spiritual - but waking up to martial law - after years of rights and privacy being slowly taken away so we don't hardly notice - anyway even without that - if you prepare - you're prepared for storms or floods which do happen - losing your jobs due to downsizing in a depressed society - loss of social security - I'm talking of old age pension - but it could happen to other forms then you're prepared. And if the worst happens the naysayers will all be slapping themselves for not preparing. FEMA's website does have suggestions for emergency supplies, its scary how violent the weather is lately. I vaguelly remember that movie. We're not that radical, but like everyone else, with stories about the dropping dollar and even violent weather and possible terrorist attacks get us wondering. Of course, we always say we don't have to worry about it now, not yet - but how do we know when not just one source of produce is contaminated but all - or all food from china is poisened in some way, or when we'll experience a flood. I guess we're kinda procrastinators to some extent. Who knows what true and what the powers that be want us to think is true - maybe it all depends on how we want to fashion our own reality - like What the Bleep Do We Know...I'm so interested in how people will react in a collapse of society and of course if we don't have access to modern conveniences or food stores and such - will we band together or form tribes against each other - that maybe I'm pulling towards myself a reality which will show me. Then again, I could just have an over active imagination born of being a writer!

I love the music in Powder. I was actually crying at the end of that movie. What's the saying those who learn the mistakes of the past, are condemned to repeat them, and I think that's exactly what we're doing. And I think the main problem is that we haven't taken responsibility for our so-called "progress" and that's what has screwed us up, no?

Hi pyewacket! Yes, the movie "Powder" made me cried too. My heart cries for him when he was discovered in the cellar or basement living so alone. Actually I was so sad and angry for him all throughout the movie. And I agree with you, we are screwed and I really am sad for the next generation of what kind of world they will inherit, I just hope they will lead better and wisely. Take care and have a nice day! :)

What is that saying? Two steps forward, one step back--think that's how it is

You hit a great point about our food. Yes, our food is mainly processed. Ever read the ingredient labels of most foods, you have to be a bio-chemist to understand them

Yes, we're particularly not advancing much in the science of medicine. With all our razmataz technology and know how, we have more recalled medications due to detrimental side effects that they can cause. Think maybe we SHOULD got backwards to the older remedies which were actually safer