Living common law versus marriage
By Pose123
@Pose123 (21635)
Canada
December 13, 2007 7:10pm CST
Living together outside of marriage has become the norm for many young couples today. Even middle aged and some older people have gotten on the bandwagon. Those who do marry often live together for years before taking the plunge. With so many marriages ending in divorce, do people feel it isn't worth the hassle it so often brings? Is marriage becoming a thing of the past, an outdated institution so to speak? Is there a need for marriage, if the law can offer the same protection without it? Why get married? Tell me what you think.
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16 responses
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
14 Dec 07
Today when common law and marriage enjoy the same rights I am not suprised that so many people choose not to get married. They are not doing anything wrong and just because they are not married does not mean that they love and respect each other less or more than the people that are married. Today marriage seems to be just a piece of paper that can easily be torn. Many people dont value it as they did before. I have met people that got divorced right after the honey moon I just dont get it. Everything is ok they have a huge wedding off they go to honeymoon they come back and get divorced in such a short time for people to change so much its just beyond me. So yes why not live together at least it would cost less if you dont love each other :)
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
Hi violeta, I agree as long as couples have the same benefits as when married and protection is in place for children. I know a couple living common law who have two children, and they are and always have been great parents. The oldest is now at university, fourth year I believe, and still has a great relationship with her parents. The boy is 16 and has a really good relationship with his parents as well. Both parents are very supportive and many married couples could certainly take a page from their book. Blessings.
@JoyfulOne (6232)
• United States
14 Dec 07
I don't think that the institute of marriage is outdated. I personally believe that with marriage (as opposed to common law) there is a much deeper committment, and people seem to work harder at keeping it together. For people who have had a couple of failed marriages behind them, I can see why they wouldn't want to commit that deeply and possibly get hurt again and risk another failure. I've read studies that said that people who live together before marriage have a larger percentage of divorces comparatively. I know with the older generations, there's the issue of losing their pension with remarriage, or other things that they don't want to meld with another (in case it doesn't work out again.)
Why marry? It is the ultimate committment and a positive proof of everlasting love. It's easier to get into a marriage than get out of one lol. (Maybe they should make it the other way around?!) Marriage, if one is having children, provides the kids with more of a stable home life, and more health benefits and all. I think one of the great pitfalls today in marriages is that people don't take their vows seriously, and the second it starts getting tough, they opt to get out rather than try and work things out together. And yes, I know that is impossible in lots of situations with abuse, etc, etc. But I don't think that's the case in every split up. Just a few of my own thoughts here, (and certainly not complete and totally well thought out lol...)
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
15 Dec 07
Hi JoyfullOne, Thank you for responding. I can see that you believe very strongly in marriage, and that is fine. Here in Canada, the government has extended the same rights to those living common law as married couples have, and that's something that I agree with. As for children, couples don't have to be married to be good parents, I've seen proof of that. At the same time, I am in my second marriage, my first wife passed away after 28 years and eventually I married again, so I guess I would have to say that it's right for me. To each his own. Blessings.
@JoyfulOne (6232)
• United States
16 Dec 07
I have to agree that it's definitely 'to each their own!' What's right for one isn't always what's right for another. I know I would never put down somebody who chose common law over a piece of paper, as I have many friends (and family) who choose living together as opposed to marriage. Lots of good discussion in this thread! Have a happy holiday!
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
14 Dec 07
My husband and I lived together before marriage for five years. I don't really feel different before or after our marriage, but the wedding itself was a time for us and our friends to all celebrate our relationship together. Also, getting married gave us a framework for making official statements of what we expected from each other and the relationship in the form of our vows, which were highly personal.
My husband and I chose to get legally married for the protections it gives, but to be honest I think a marriage is a marriage whether it's legal or not. I've known people who held religious or personal marriage ceremonies without getting legally married, and I don't see them as any less married. I just see it as a matter of personal choice.
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@shak143 (1280)
• India
14 Dec 07
I agree that ratio of people leaving together is increasing now a days and may be the divorce is the reason which makes the young people to think why to marry one and to break with them its better to leave together untill he/she is good with you.but we cant asure that the one with whom your are leaveing is good he/she may be cunning after getting what he want from you he/she may left you.and if it is a habbit for them means it creates problems so inorder to avoid marriage rule is made.
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@nkhanna (922)
• India
14 Dec 07
well maariage is social activity which is performed just to allow two person to live together without others saynig bad things to them or to theri children.for me i think marriage is just about this.however if law provides tihs security to living relationships as well then i guess hardly anyone will like to get married.marriage becomes a responsibility an obligation,however on the other hand living is just free with no boundations.nowadays peole want to live thier live at their will and want to do what they want.and for all this they think living is good.might be after few generations marriage will be just an outdated thing.
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@alamode (3071)
• United States
14 Dec 07
Not for everyone... we chose to marry, and have chosen to stay together... we gave each other the option 44 years ago that, if we decided that we wanted out, we wouldn't have any argument... it would just be over. So we have never HAD to stay married... we've WANTED to!
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@nichole1983 (1187)
• Canada
14 Dec 07
i honestly think marriage is becoming a thing of the past... i see so many young couples and not being married for too long getting divorced... i like living common law with my fiance but we are planning on getting married next year... hopefully if everything pans out they way we want it too... the law offers the same protection as being married if you are common law here in manitoba, canada... 6 months and you are considered married and if you break up get half of everything if you really wanted to a be a b*tch but thats not me.. i take what i brought to the table if things were to go astray
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@smacksman (6053)
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14 Dec 07
I think the high divorce rate is a sad reflection on how parents today lack commitment to their children.
Married or not, if you produce children it becomes your responsibility to bring them up to maturity.
If the relationship gets tough, you should see it through. You made your bed so lie in it.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
17 Dec 07
Hi smacksman, I think there are times when a relationship has to end, married or single, and often it's better for the children too. I do agree with you that parents often lack commitment. They has gotten into relationships without giving it any thought. I agree too that a lot of divorces aren't necessary. Thanks for responding. Blessings.
@Denmarkguy (1845)
• United States
14 Dec 07
I think it's ultimately a matter of individual values and preferences.
My mom and stepdad (who are 85 and 89, respectively) have been "happily unmarried" for 30+ years. In their case, they each have adult children from previous relationships, and simply decided that it would be "simpler" (legally speaking) for them to not be married. And, as my mother said, "since we're not about to have kids, we don't really NEED a piece of paper to prove that we are committed to each other."
I believe marriage is perhaps more important for people who are younger and just starting out, and could use some of the practical/legal benefits of marriage, when they are trying to have a family.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
17 Dec 07
Hi Mirita, Thank you for your thoughts, and I respect your opinion. I am in my second marriage, my first wife passed away, and I remarried after a few years. I do think that it's a matter of personal choice though, and some common law relationships work out very well. Blessings.
@devilsangel (1817)
• United States
14 Dec 07
I think that many people live together before getting married because it gives them an idea of what it's going to be like. Its kind of like a test run. If things don't work out just living together it doesn't cost you half of what you own to get away from the other person. If things don't work out in a marraige its a huge hassle to get divorced. It is becomming easier to just live with someone then it is to get married. Outside of a few perks being married holds, there is no real reason anymore for people to do it. For me I'm old fashion and just living together forever without marriage isn't my thing. I'm not a big fan of playing house. I figure if we're gonna do it then lets do it all the way. It doesn't have to be right away but it does have to happen.
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@spled4u (5)
• Nigeria
14 Dec 07
Marriage is the first institution created by GOD almighy. HE created it for a purpose. Marriage is established to have companionship,fellowhip e.t.c
GOD created marriage also for us to reproduce.
Living together is not marriage. It is just co-habiting.Marriage entail more than living together,it is just one attribute of marrage.
It is the devil-the enemy of mankind that is trying to desrtoy the institution of marriage because he knows that, that is an easy way to desrtoy the plan of GOD for mankind.
If marriage which establishes "home" is destroyed then it will be easy to destroy the plans of God for Mankind.
So, marriage is an important institution and GOD should be invoveld before it is started. Then one can have happy home.
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
17 Dec 07
Hi spled4u, Thank you for your thoughts on this. If God created marriage, as you say, he should have prepared people better for it. The high rate of divorce is a big reason for people living common law, and some such relationships work out very well, for parents and for children. I don't believe that God created marriage, it was man, and that's why there are so many problems. Blessings.
@yanxchick (250)
• United States
14 Dec 07
I live with my boyfriend and don't see a real need to get married. We don't have children, we both have health insurance and we are both happy with the way things are.
We talk about about future together and all the great things we would love it do and I just don't see being married as a prerequisite to any of that.
Marriage has become just a piece of paper to a lot of people and I never want to be one of those people.
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
15 Dec 07
I was married once and I live with someone now- no difference to me at all! I'm happier not married really. I can leave when I want with no angry court battles- maybe a child support hearing but he wouldn't argue that. It's easier really to just say that it isn't working when you aren't married- don't know why it just is.. We are middle aged-ish and fine with the way we are living. Besides he has an intense fear of offical commitment and now after marriage so do I. We are here for each other, work as a team, and have freedom really to just cut away if it doesn't work. For us, it works.
@SONIA12MAN (238)
• United States
23 Mar 08
My boyfriend and I are living together we will only get married when I'm done with school because the stress from kids and school I can't add wedding planing to it. He does wish how ever that we were but some times things get on the way. and we can't do it. He's also traveling every other week it is hard for us to give time to plan together. To me marriage is important coz my parents were married . and are still married
@SONIA12MAN (238)
• United States
23 Mar 08
yep some people do it because they have been through hell . but thanks for your comment. it is so cool to be married i'm happy for you. my friend actually she's my boyfriends friend and she invited me over to spend the week end with her and her boyfriend. i asked her if I can bring my boyfriend she said no. and he was standing next to the phone, he took the phone from me and said that he's coming anyway because he's driving me over and he's not visiting her just her boyfriend. so when we got over he told me he's not even going to greet her but as soon as we got out of the car she came out hey hey see who's here i told you to stay home. he gave her a hung and they chat and laugh . so I called him and said did not you promised not to greet this lady? the chase me inside the house so every one just running around . then her daughter said mummy why are you guys running and she reply they are looking for me. the kid sat down on the chair I was hiding behind and dail her phone to call her 8yrds old friend . she said my aunt is her and uncle and my mum is always going wild she gets too happy. i got out of hiding and she told me not to tell mummy. i said trust me. we are always having fun . but for some people i think that if you have break up number one, breka up number two break up number three then you feel like there is no point doing it look at Pamela Anderson, how many times has that woman done little quickies marriages? it is why she si breaking up again. when i go over to my boyfriends friend's home like i said above it is always crazy they both study martial arts so they get in to it and we have to watch them and support the favorite. one day he was not winning and he said to his friend in Chinese that she should not disgrace him because his girl friend is watching. she could not fight any more and started laughing she ran to me and said blessed your boyfriend i'm going upstairs i wil be back. I asked him what. he won't say he said that gul is afraid to lost the game. so during dinner i asked her why were you laughing so much. she told me what he said in Chinese . i understand a little of it so i started laughing and i replied in Chinese and told him he's sleeping downstairs. every one began to laugh.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
14 Dec 07
"Is there a need for marriage, if the law can offer the same protection without it"
If you mean that common law couples have the same rights etc as married couples then I have to correct that..Living common law DOES give each partner certain rights etc BUT not the same laws and rights as if a couple is legally married...UNLESS its changed drastically over the past 15 yrs which is of course possible...Oh and I'm talking Canadian law (more specifically Ontario)
I lived common law with the father of my two older kids AND with my husband actually and I have to say that if a couple is intending on getting married living together first is a good idea...The way I see it is, you never REALLY get to know a person fully 100% until you've lived with them..I think that rather than taking the plunge then moving in together AFTER getting married only to find out your spouse has numerous qualities and habits you just can't stand or tolerate or visa versa a couple SHOULD live together for a few months...
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@kimberlylynn (978)
• United States
14 Dec 07
I have several friends living a common law marriage and don't feel the need to get the paper to say that they are not committed. I personally needed the paper, but that is probably just my own insecurities.
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