What is Your Opinion of This?
By worldwise1
@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
December 27, 2007 12:25am CST
I just found out that many companies that distribute music CDs, Movies, and Software for your computer have now decided to equip them with a feature that prevents you from duplicating them-once you have purchased them! Now I don't have a problem with not being able to download music and movies unless you are paying for them, but, come on folks, don't you think this is taking it a bit too far? Once I pay for a movie, CD, or video game I consider it mine to do with as I wish. I don't think these companies should have the right to tell you what you can do with material you have purchased. What do you think?
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14 responses
@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
28 Dec 07
Hello.
I do think it's boring, actually. And still sad. Poor people won't have access anymore to CD's, Movies, etc. Do you know why this has been made? Probably yes. Because of piracy. And WHY does piracy happens, I ask? Because of the high prices. They put their products with such a high price that nobody can buy, but people who are medium class. Saying this, they are not forwarding their products to poor people, and therefore they have to use piracy in order to listen to music. Such a shame.
Respectfully.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
There is a lot of truth in what you have said, munhozmib. I have noticed the prices continue to rise for these products, and I do think it contributes to piracy. Having said that, they should go after the people who are pirating rather than law-abiding citizens.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Jan 08
The prices are also too high for many Americans, munhozmib. While we are supposed to be one of the wealthiest nations in the world, there are many Americans who live AT or BELOW the poverty line. These large corporations are only interested in adding more money to their coffers-not in making their product accessible to everyone. When you add all these facts together, there is little wonder that piracy is so pervasive.
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@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
30 Dec 07
I'm glad you think so. But chasing the ones who make the piracy is also a wrong action to take. It will just increase the number of hungry people in the world, since many earn their monthly income from this. See if you get my view, now, on this simple example:
I want to buy a Windows Vista. The Windows Vista costs 44.99£. But here in Brazil we do not use Euro. 44.99£ would be 66 USD (United States Dollars). Perhaps it might be cheap for those who live in US, but, as I said, I live in Brazil. 66 USD would be something around 117 Reais (the currency used in Brazil). We earn, as a minimum wage, 380 Reais (210 Dollars). So, I'd have to spend almost half of what I earn in one month to buy a Windows Vista, and I'd hardly be able to buy food for my 4 people Family (just an example). However, I know a guy who works with piracy. Do you know for how much he is selling Windows Vista? 10 Reais (5 Dollars; 3 Euros). I can buy from him, it will work the same way and I'll have much more cash in my pocket. Now, isn't it an absurd to be selling a Software for almost what I earn? Note that this does not include Microsoft Office, which is MORE expensive than Vista itself. Saying this, I'd have to spend a whole month wage to buy two softwares, while I can spend a max of 20 Reais.
So, now, don't you think the prices are a bit too high? Perhaps not for Americans, but yes for us Brazilians. Can you see it?
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
28 Dec 07
The same thing was true with VHS movie tapes. Remember they were coded too, so people couldn't duplicate them? Uh, used to have a gizmo that did over-ride the coding though...LOL. No actually I can see the point of why this is done. The idea being is that say you purchase a DVD movie or CD they "lock" it so you can't duplicate it cause then you could take that DVD movie, duplicate, and sell it for profit to yourself. Which on the one hand would be nice. LOL. But then those companies selling the DVDs, CDs whatever would be losing an awful lot of money if everyone could duplicate
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
Funny you should mention the VHS movie tapes, pyewacket, because, like everything else, someone soon discovered a way to get past the code. I remember when I purchased my first one and was told how to override the code. What I am saying here is simply that a person should be able to make a copy of a movie or music CD for their own personal use once they shell out the astronomical price they cost nowadays.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
28 Dec 07
PS--not all software programs you buy are necessarily "locked"--some allow you to copy/upload several times ...My friend purchased the word processor program for her Mac computer...one could use/copy it up to five times...that's how I got my program as she sent it to me...after my time of copying/uploading then it became "locked"
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@carolbee (16230)
• United States
27 Dec 07
I agree with you. If I purchased a dvd or cd and want to copy it, that should be my choice. It's mine just as a pair of slacks or anything else I buy for myself. I have downloaded many songs from the internet to make cd's but kept them basically for myself. I didn't try to "sell" them to anyone. If I downloaded music and sold the cd's to others for profit then I could understand any company putting the brakes on as it would be taking away from their profit margin.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
I wholeheartedly agree with you, carolbee. The average person, like you or I, only want to buy music or movies for our own personal use.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
28 Dec 07
You are so right. Once you have purchased the CD or DVD you should be able to make a copy of it.I would make a copy for travel so I could keep the original at home.I wouldn't copy and sell the CD or DVD.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
Most people would do the same thing, sarah. They are presuming that everyone is out to beat the system.
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@nmhschic2004 (1238)
• United States
27 Dec 07
In a way i think its a great idea. Some people make copies of stuff just so they can make money. And i dont think this is right. They have the right to do whatever they want. And im pretty sure a lot of companies have been doing this for quite a while.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
I disagree, nmhschic. Their rights do not extend to saying I am breaking a law if I want to make a copy of a CD or DVD that I paid my money for.
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@ctrymuziklvr (11057)
• United States
27 Dec 07
The problem I have with that is what do you do when you have to get a new computer? Buy it all over again? That doesn't seem right to me. I had that problem with a Microsoft Word program I have and later found that it was a glitch. They probably don't want us to buy it and let everyone we know copy it to save themselves some money....that's the only thing I can think of.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
But, don't you think, ctry, that they are going on the presumption that everyone is crooked? Most of the people I know buy their music and movies legally. I don't know more than a couple who buy software.
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@blueunicorn (2401)
• United States
29 Dec 07
To be honest, world, we are all crooked to a certain extent. We all bend the rules "just a little bit" if we are to be honest. For example, I saw you in a post farther up saying you should be able to copy your CD for your car. I personally think that is true and a good idea. But, haven't you ever copied a CD for a friend? That is not the right thing to do. The friend should have to buy the CD if they want it. It's human nature to bend the rules, and I think the entertainment companies have a right to reel us back in.
@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
27 Dec 07
I would think that if I paid for something like this, it is mine to use freely. I agree with your thoughts. I think they want to stop people from making copies and redistributing the material for profit. I see no harm in copying material and reformatting it. Like taking music CDs and using a few songs from each to make a new CD. In some ways, this kind of locked system prevents pirating of material and protects the public, to an extent. Still, I see no problem with making copies of a CD...one for me, one for in the car and another for whatever.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
I agree, sigma, and I do hope they will take this under consideration before they make their final decision.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
2 Jan 08
I can understand both sides actually. Pirating is such a huge business. Seems like "everyone does it" is a catchphrase and I've spoken to dozens of people who don't think there's anything wrong with pirating.
For myself, I would like to be able to copy CDs so as to have some of my music to take in the car without the risk of damaging the original. I've also lost a few DVDs because I loaned them to people and didn't get them back.
There is also the other side of the coin where all this sort of media is way overpriced. Maybe that's why people are happy to steal it because they feel it's too expensive to buy. If they reduced the prices, they'd get more sales for sure.
Also, I don't see too many rock bands or movie makers going broke because of these problems.
@winky73 (1404)
• United States
27 Dec 07
Well making copys of movies,CD's or software is pretty much the same as not paying for them.Maybe not on your part...since you bought the named above first....but to someone that might benefit from the copys you made.You are right...it should be yours to do with as you please.....but only to some extend.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
If I drove a car, winky, and wanted to listen to a CD that I like, I should not have to take that CD from my home every time I get into my car. If I paid for it, I should be able to have a copy to keep in my home and one for my car. Most people I know keep certain music for their cars.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
27 Dec 07
I completely agree with you. If I have to pay for it I should be able to do whatever I want with it for my own personal use. I have never owned a vehicle with anything more than a tape player if I was lucky...but how often can you find tapes of today's music? And why would I want to buy the CD AND the tape of the same thing just so I can listen in the house and in the car. It was much easier and cheaper to buy blank tapes to record whatever I wanted on from my Cd's. If they make that impossible then I'll be pretty annoyed.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
You are the voice of reason, foxyfire! My point exactly. It should not be breaking any law to copy-for your personal use-that which you have paid your hard-earned money for.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
6 Jan 08
I think you're absolutely right! Heaven forbid if a company loses a sale or two because someone makes a copy to give to their sister or whatever. These are the same companies that don't want to pay the writers what they deserve for these same CDs and movies! Another example of corporate greed.
Annie
@blueunicorn (2401)
• United States
27 Dec 07
I have to be honest... I don't have a problem with this idea. I think we are all guilty at some point of copying something and using it in a way that was not completely right. For example, if my neighbor wants a copy of a CD I have he really should go out and buy the CD. I think we forget that there was a time that we didn't have the option to copy music and movies. If we ruined our copy, we had to go buy another. I think that the entertainment industry should have that right. It is only because of increasing technology that we can copy this stuff to begin with.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
Just to balance things out, blueunicorn, I'll cede you that point, but, back in the days before we got the technology to make copies, artists were not being paid multi-million dollar salaries either.
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@blueunicorn (2401)
• United States
29 Dec 07
The artists may not have been making multi-millions of dollars, but I think they were making the equivalent for the time period. I remember when I was in 8th grade (1988) I said I wanted to be a lawyer because they make $50,000 per year. Wow, that was a lot of money! Now my family makes pretty close to that and it is nothing really. I honestly think that the stars have always made an insane amount of money, but I could be wrong.
@Sillychick (3275)
• United States
27 Dec 07
That bothers me, but it doesn't surprise me. They do have the right, since it is copyrighted material and it says on the package not to be duplicated without consent. So in a way, no, it's not yours to do with as you wish. But it bothers me because once a CD has been scratched and can't be played, it can be copied and played. As long as it is not copied for the purpose of distribution, that should be ok.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
Well, Sillychick, in my own twisted little mind, once I BUY it, it's mine to do with as I please-within legal requirements.
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@usouljah28 (7)
• United States
27 Dec 07
To be honest, I don't have any arguements with this discussion. I am for the companies that distribute music, CD's, movies, and softward because they put in a lot of work for their craft for it to be copied for free. The preventing from duplicating CD's, movies, musics, etc. is to have people go out for themselves, and purchase these items and help these people make money, rather than being a free loader copying these peoples hard work and selling to make your own profit or distributing it out for free. This is just my take on the subject.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
29 Dec 07
These laws are not targeting the sleazy people who illegally copy material to redistribute it, usouljah, but, instead, they are targeting the honest buyer who might only want to make a back-up copy for their own personal use. I don't have a problem with them going after those who break the law, but I pay good money for all of my music and movies.
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