GOD - The Very Existence Of God
By wwwnavraj
@wwwnavraj (25)
India
5 responses
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
4 Jan 08
Hi wwwnavraj, I agree that we cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. I know that I am, more then that I cannot say. Belief is something different, you may or may not believe in God, it's a personal decision. I don't believe in the traditional God, the old man in the sky bit, who watches our every move and judges us accordingly. I do believe in life, that is life did not begin with this body, nor will it end with it. Again this is just my belief, I can't prove it to another and have no desire to. The only answer I can give is that it is what I feel within me. For me there is order in the universe, and nothing will happen without a reason. Blessings.
@wwwnavraj (25)
• India
4 Jan 08
My question remains un-answered by you.
what i call 'god',you r calling the same 'order' & 'reason'.
U can't say both these two words together.There is no order with reason beyond our perception.
As far now U even can't define the periphery of 'universe',what else can i ask u about what is god,universe and related reason,order?
@kundalini444 (194)
• Italy
5 Jan 08
It doesn't matter whether you call it God or Reason.
The point is: if this "god" (or "thing") is supernatural AND personal.
If you define "god" whatever you are not able to reach or comprehend, you will never prove or disprove it/him by the very definition of it. More, there is no need or actual point in discussing this "unreachable" thing: since it is unreachable we are only discussable what it is NOT (reachable by our arguments)
@aries_0325 (3060)
• Philippines
20 Jan 08
I always believe to the existence of God. And I always believe that He is the creator of all mankind and all living things in this world. And I will believe this believe I know in myself that He is our God.
@chooochy (356)
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11 Jan 08
If a person chooses to beleive in a "god" then so be it, if a person chooses not to beleive, then so be it, as agreed this is a never ending discussion and no one will ever be right or wrong as no one will ever know until their time comes and then its too late to say, "I told you so"
@kundalini444 (194)
• Italy
3 Jan 08
There is no evidence for the existence of any god.
This is, more or less, all that can be said about this "mystery".
Also, there is no evidence that this problem is going to stay unsolved forever. Indeed, we know now much more than we used to know in the past, enough to dismiss most supernatural beliefs; we could possibly know even more in the future, enough to disprove the very existence of any supernatural entity, such as god.
I agree, however, that today there aren' sufficient elements to definitely prove or disprove god. In my opinion there is no god.
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
4 Jan 08
Whether there exist ANY god or gods is such a mystery and will always be so. However:
I can say with 100% certainty that God (capitalized to mean the Christian god), as Christians define him, doesn't exist. I can say this because God, as he is defined, is a self-contradiction, and a self-contradiction cannot exist.
Example: one can also say with 100% certainty that a square with 21 sides does not exist. Not because one has searched every iota of existence without finding it, but because a 21-sided square is impossible, being a self-contradiction. Same thing with someone who weighs 150 and 250 pounds at the same time--a self-contradiction by definition cannot exist.
I'm going to prove that the Christian God is a self-contradiction like the examples above, and therefore ALSO can't exist:
The Christian God is defined as perfect, and also as a creator (it isn't really important what God created or didn't create, just that he created something). To be perfect is to be complete. To be complete is to lack nothing. Desire can only exist when there is a lack of something (that something is what is desired). Therefore, since God is perfect, he desires nothing. Since he desires nothing, obviously he would not desire to create anything. A perfect being would do nothing but exist, because actively DOING something would imply a desire (to do whatever it is), which a perfect being cannot have by definition.
Therefore, an entity who is both perfect and a creator is a self-contradiction that cannot exist, just like a 21-sided square. Since Christians define their god this way, one can say with absolute certainty that this god does not, indeed, cannot exist.
This is only one of many self-contradictions within the definition of God, as defined by Christians themselves. For more (oh yes, there are several more), see my source.
(sources)
1. http://www.evilbible.com/Impossible.htm