Stupid People Should Not Be Permitted to Breed

I was just wondering what makes you think you're so smart? Having 4 kids that you have to work 3 jobs to support does not sound all that smart to me.

What is your definition of stupid? Mentally disabled or just 'not very smart'?? I agree that some mentally disabled people should not have children because they can't even take care of themselves. Some people may not have had much education (and therefore classified as "stupid" by some people) but they can be very good at what they do and become successful whereas some people may have a phD and earn a good living but they can still make some really stupid decisions. Children are a blessing and is a gift from God. We have no right to say who can or cannot have children. Yes, I agree. Some people do take advantage of government benefits, public assistance, charities etc but others are genuinely in need and they really can't do anything about their situations.

I agree with part of you discussion, but how do you define stupid? because I am sorry but most people do stupid things, every day I see drivers that do not believe the laws apply to them. I see abuse toward others who are unable to defend themselves and these acts are carried out by a mentality that screams me first and its all about me. I have seen and spoken with welfare advocates that spent most of their life on welfare and are now in the process of teaching others how to use the system, and they are not stupid people, they know every law rule and regulation like their middle name and could and to teach others a few new tricks, My suggestion is that we start by making every one responsible for their actions, Have as many kids as you can afford to raise on your own hook, because the welfare state is closed, To dehumanize people is to take away their responsibilities. You give some one welfare and you have given them permission to sit back and not be responsible. There are countries that give welfare to those who work, I would sooner see the rewards go to those who worked for them. Right now those that work are penalized by having to pay for those who refuse to. As for keeping on having more children to get more money must stop, a minimum and maximum must be set if necessary welfare will help you for 6 month only if you have not more and not less than 2 children. As for jobs for all these people they are there if you want them and are willing to get your hands dirty and do a bit of hard work, as I said reward the working class no penalize

How dare you, cynical, appoint yourself as judge and jury in deciding who has the right to bear children, and under what circumstances they should be given the right! Yes, you should be ashamed of yourself-because your statements are misguided and hurtful. There are plenty of people who have had to go on public assistance for one reason or another, but they still managed to succeed and become solid citizens who are gainfully employed and contribute positively to society. You have to have some faith in people, and not believe they are all bad. Some just need a helping hand for awhile.

You didn't mention if you have a driver's license, or how many kids you have? If someone designed a test for stupidity, would you volunteer to be the first tested?

Cynical, your ideas sound very familiar to me. Where have I heard them before? Hmmm, let me think. Oh yeah, from Hitler. He believed in one pure race. He believed that if he killed all the people he considered to be bad, that the world would be a better place. So my question to you is, how are you any more qualified than Hitler was to make that call? So you are suggesting a slower process. Instead of rounding up the stupid people, just sterilize them and when they die off then there will be no one left but the smart people, right? I have read some of your responses in this discussion, and I have to say, you think pretty highly of yourself. And I'm sure you should. You worked hard to support yourself and your children. Good for you. But when you were working those 3 jobs, who was raising your children? Someone besides you, right? I'm not saying that it's wrong for mothers to work, or that you made the wrong choice, but my point is simply this: No one is perfect, there are down sides to everything. You talk about giving these babies to 'educated people' who can afford to take care of them. Well, why didn't you do that? You obviously didn't have a high paying job, or you wouldn't have needed 3 of them. You were not able to offer your children EVERYTHING because you had to work to support them. Again, not saying you should have stayed home and collected welfare, just that there are 2 sides to every coin. Don't sit there on your high horse and judge other people. You don't know the circumstances that led them to this point in their lives, you don't know just because a person has difficulty with math that they are stupid. What qualifies you to judge others and decide the fate of the world. I suggest you stop trying to save the world and just stick to the task of raising your own children. And by the way money and education do not determine the ability to be a good parent. I have known plenty of well educated, high earning individuals who didn't know the first thing about being a parent, but according to your standards they would be more qualified than a poor person with enough love to give to a dozen children.

I completely agree, we could also do some good be sterlizing people who keep having unwanted childred

This is an intense topic and you made a strong point on this issue. If I may define stupidity, An action that is kept repeated over and over with the doer expecting a different result...that is stupidity.People who don't learn from their experience suffer a lot.Why should they expect a different result where infact it has proven otherwise!!!A practical picture of this or as an example is your topic LOL! Well, I can say that the welfare system is abused by many who have a hopeless situation.The government should actually assess and screen who gets such benefit.Eligibility should be done with a specified number of children and if they exceed to the max, then they should be barred from receiving this welfare benefit. I understand that children are one of the purpose of marriage, but using this innocent ones "babies" to get lazy is not right.The government should give them jobs to sustain their needs rather than hand it to them.Like in the saying" teach them how to fish rather than give fish all the time". In the end, the government is teaching this people to get more lazy, thus the abusive reproduction of babies continue.

WEll im looking for your discussion about your poem and cant find it but im going to respond to alot of your discussions b/c I Like you so far LOL. I agree with you we need to evolve and get rid of all thes stupid people mooching off of us. my fiance and I were actually talking about that last night and said if they are going to do it might as well have little medicare towns that you go to to have medicare and make them work for us b/c were paying them. LOL If there were less laws and we were aloud to live as we pleased as long as we harm none than I think stupid people would naturaly die away. Then we as humans can finally live in our true nature LOL if you know what i mean

I definitely have to agree with you somewhat. I do remember a time when, unfortunately, I had to be on welfare for a short period after getting divorced and having my two boys to raise on my own. It was a very short period though until I could get on my feet, but I was working my butt off everyday at a job working 8 to 6 most days...so i don't consider myself one of the stupid ones or the other ones. I maybe was on it for two months, at the most, if not less than that. It really does bother me though and makes me so upset to see all of these people out here with no job, 10 kids, and living off every penny they can get from the government...or should I say, us the tax payers, who have to give that money to the government to support all the ones that won't work and pay taxes. It really does chap my a**. I know there are people out there really struggling who are working really hard though to to make ends meet and may need a little help...those I do not mind helping as much, but it's the ones that won't stop having kids and expect us to feed them that really makes me hate people at times. A lot of families that were doing well when they were married, like in my case, and then through stupidity of the man having to get divorced and left with two children to raise...again like in my case, might need a little help...but just a little. They should still be doing everything they can for themselves and their children without the help of anyone else. I understand though that sometimes circumstances like that come up and respect them for working as hard as they possibly can while still trying to be a mother at the same time. To those sitting on their butts though, with diamond rings on every finger...a brand new car in the drive way...200 pairs of shoes...getting money from the government to live on, shame on them and shame on the government for allowing it. It's absolutely ridiculous and it really hurts the people that honestly need it. Thanks for your discussion and God bless!

you really need to watch the moivie idiosynchracy... I don't know if I agree or disagree with you about the rest though welfare should not exist. there are people who completely abuse the system, then there are people who would benefit from it, but cannot take advantage of it... possibly sterilization should be more promoted as an alternative to birth control...but I honestly believe nature is taking care of itself in keeping population intact. stupid is an opinion however...often marked with ignorance anyways, watch idiosynchracy...it completely agrees your point :) it's kind of funny, too.

I agree with you. My brotherin law is one of them and i feel soooo sorry for his kids he had his first taken away from him then had 2 more and they are not treated right. And on the same line of discussion...what about the slower people as well...We have neighbors that are both slow...and they had a child and they are only permitted to see the child under supervision and i just feel so sorry for them....and the child....that is no life to lead...

Don't have enough time at this point to say all I'd like, but I'll start with FORCED STERILIZATION!!!! What is this, Nazi Germany? Yeah, too many people having too many children that the rest of us are forced to pay for, and it's always stupid people that will most procreate - they can't think of anything else to do. But there's got to be a better way - not that I have any real suggestions, but forced sterilization is NOT an option that I will ever go for. I shudder at the thought that you could even consider it. Yikes!

I have siad for many years now that there is an easy way to deal with this situation. Because women are born with every egg they will ever have, simply perform surgery early on in her life and remove the eggs. You can also perform a vasectomy on the males. This will in now way effect hormone levels or development. Then, upon reaching age 18 (or some other arbitrary age...21....25....whatever) every person is required to undergo testing. If they pass, they get their eggs back and/or vasectomy reversed. The added benefit to this is that women do not waste eggs during the period of their teens. They will then have a longer reproductive "life span" when they are mature and responsible. Oh, and by the way, I don't care if anyone agrees with my plan. I know it would work and I know it would be best for the world in general and the children that suffer because they get born to a couple of teenagers who have no idea how to take care of themselves let alone a child. Or, get born to supposed adults who don't have the mental, emotional or psychological capacity to think beyond the moment.

I don't think stupid people should create stupid people.