Paypal to be reporting to IRS
By Debs_place
@Debs_place (10520)
United States
January 8, 2008 11:16am CST
Yes people, Paypal will be reporting information to the IRS starting Jan 10, 2008. This is not an urban legend. For more info-- see this site
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/paypal.asp
Have you all been reporting your income to the IRS that gets paid through PayPal?
At this point they are looking at corporate accounts, how long until they come after the $50 I made last year?
What do you think?
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22 responses
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
8 Jan 08
Hmm...looks like I will be changing all my online earning to check soon. I hate having to wait on the mail though!
Did you actually get one of these emails? I have been with paypal for quite a number of years and didn't receive one.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
8 Jan 08
No..I got the notice in my RSS feed from Snopes..I know I hate waiting on the mail.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
8 Jan 08
After I wrote this I read the entire snopes thing. At the very bottom it stated something along the lines of that only people who got the email had some of their accounts reported to the IRS.It seems like PayPal is only reporting people that they believe are involved in illegal activites such as money laundering. So if you didn't get an email, then you don't have to worry.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
8 Jan 08
I am sure there are many people trying ot beat the system./ Lets say you beling to 3 earning sites. On sites 1 & 2, you earned less than the $600 required for them to cut you a 1099, but on site 3 you earned $750. I would suspect most people would just file the $750 because they had to. I wonder how something like this would affect people like that. I have always read the law as if you make over $600 a year you have to file. It is your entire income, not just by site.
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@darkangel079 (1488)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Well if it is under $600 then nothing to worry about. Not that I would make $600 on this site in a week or month. Too much time to consume for that.
@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
8 Jan 08
Bad news. Those overspending crumbs in the government want everty last penny. There should be a limit placed on this. What about money I just transfer through my account for various reasons? I might transfer money to someone to pay a bill, not to buy something. Or someone might lend me money through Paypal. Yes, they want your $50 so they can spend it on researching whether or not the IRS should bother collecting taxes from Paypal users...lol. Next, they will garnish Mylot users...what a joke. Instead of looking to rip every last dollar from people, they need to stop wasting money.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
8 Jan 08
Maybe, well hopefully, the next president will devise a better tax system. One where our incomes are not tax but goods are taxed.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
ISn't that what Huckabee wants? I agree it would be easier..only people who make above $200 K should have to worry about a tax system, since they probably will have so much money to invest that the consumer spending option would not apply evenly to them.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
9 Jan 08
So the IRS has finally caught on that maybe people may be earning a lot of money and not reporting the income..I could see where maybe people who earn quite a bit from being power sellers at ebat might start getting a bit nervous about this, but I don't think folks like you and me who earn a few bucks here and there have to worry.....yet :( Technically one doesn't have to report income if it;s less than $600
But crap...can't one earn a few extra bucks somehow without our big brother govt knowing about it? Before you know it, it'll get to the point we have to report extra earned income even if it's only ten cents
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Big brother is exactly right, if I sell something on eBay, I don't know one of those Christmas gifts that I didn't want, is that now going to be income? I think it sucks...what happened to free enterprise...I would think if some of us could start out small eventually we might get to a point where it should be really looked at as income (600 is not enough) but if it becomes real money (ok 600 a month) then the IRS can look at it. But it is time to stop punishing us for trying to make ends meet.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Yes...you have to wonder what they are thinking ...you will definitely be able to party hardy on 850 a month. Just think of the jet setting you can do! You are right. to limit you to 80 a month is ridiculous but then I don't think you will have to worry on mylot
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
9 Jan 08
You know what's really asinine? I'm on SSI benefits...I can't make more than $85 per month without my benefits being affected. I only get $724 a month to begin with in benefits and am squeaking by, so yes say I did get $80 extra a month which would be nice, but still doesn't really cover everything--like what century are they living in...
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@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
9 Jan 08
I have a Paypal account, but I am not a US citizen. So I guess IRS ruling about Paypal reporting information accounts does apply to me nor affect me. Obviously, the purpose of this is for the government to extract taxes from folks who make money through the internet. I am just wondering, even if such information is furnished, how the government will decide what constitutes earnings that are taxable. Money coming in to one's account does not necessarily connote earnings. There are also transfers of money across accounts, refunds from merchants, debts paid by debtors, top ups to the account through bank accounts or credit cards, and other transactions - all of which are not earnings of any kind. Also people may make some money on the internet and this is paid into Paypal, but they also lose money on other internet schemes they join and in many cases, they may have lost more than what they have earned. How will the government decide under what conditions taxation should apply? Certainly makes me wonder how a fair taxation system can prevail when it comes to considering internet businesses and earnings.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
I am sure the burden of proof will be on the little guy. We will have to show how we earned and spent/loss the money.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
26 Mar 08
Boy, that's the truth Deb. -- guilty until proven (by yourself) innocent!
@justabloke (526)
• United States
9 Jan 08
The IRS knows us all by our SSN, so, unless you give that to paypal I don't see how they can track you down.
Panic over I hope.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
If you have your paypal account tied into a bank account, they now have your information.
@justabloke (526)
• United States
10 Jan 08
I think you are missing what I am saying. The IRS knows you by your SSN. Banks have SSN linked to bank accounts, but, expecting the banks to give that information to the IRS is a bit premature at this stage.
@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
27 Jan 08
I am sure they are only looking at the Bigger Companies who are making a lot of money maybe thru Ebay, and other sites that have made way over the $600 limit. So the average Joe will have nothing to worry about, unless you have been making over that in Paypal. I know I have nothing to worry about, and most of the places that I earn $$ from online if I make over $600 would send me a Tax paper anyways.
Just quite interesting that they are finally getting Smart enough to investigate some of the stuff going on there. To me, it is definately about time.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Jan 08
I think it will take many years before I make $600 on the internet.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
8 Jan 08
I only made less than $50 last year, how on Earth can they report that? We have to actually pay taxes on what we earn online now, what if we did not make that much?
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
10 Jan 08
This regulation business is getting out of control. What's next, they are going to regulate our homes and our bathrooms? You have got to be kidding me!?
@amitksing (1323)
• India
8 Jan 08
I dont have any idea what IRS is but I can undersatnd what it deals with.
Its a real bad news, but not till IRS stucks only towards corporate accounts.
Its true that Govt want to extract their share from even a single penny that comes to its citizens pockets.
lets hope for the best.
@stribijev (229)
• Poland
24 Mar 08
In case you don't know what IRS is - the IRS is the US government agency responsible for tax collection and tax law enforcement. You may learn more about the things it can do with you if you don't pay your taxes at http://IRStaxInformationHelp.weebly.com. You are right as far as extracting every single penny, but you can always find a way out, if you know where to look for help :)
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Jan 08
Now that sounds like a plan. I like the getting the money back part.
@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
15 Feb 08
MAYBE THREE years..i did not pay 48 dollars in interest on year..the statement came in late but three years later i paid a hefty penalty and the 48 dollar interest that i made in a savings account..it is something that i will never forgot and have not done it since...my sister had to pay 2200 dollars on income tax she did not report..so it happens
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Mar 08
The IRS is just like loan sharks,..they charge usury rates.
@justabloke (526)
• United States
9 Jan 08
I wonder how the IRS are going to know who you are, unless Paypal give them your Social Security number, which I haven't given Paypal and hopefully I will not have too.
Just a thought!
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Well if you tied the paypal account to an account at your bank, I would guess it can all be traced back.
@justabloke (526)
• United States
10 Jan 08
I doubt the IRS have the staff to trace it down with the banks and even if they did, I am sure the banks would fight any order to release personal information on their bankers, as, once they start doing it, people will trust banks even less and the banks will probably lose investors.
@YamiKiba (937)
• United States
28 Jan 08
. . .wow. That's just sad if they have to go after paypal users. Is nothing sacred anymore?! I just turned 18 last month. . .I'm scared of the IRS. =S Taxes are scary. I'm barely making money online as it is and I'm still in high school. x.x; They should really only tax people who make more than enough. .lol. I'm still living with my parents so I don't really have financial problems to worry about yet. .but still I'd like to get a headstart. Which is why I'm trying to make money online and get paid through paypal. Like some of the other people here, I'd be happy just making $10 here. . .which won't be for quite a while since I have finals coming up. .School is so troublesome.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Mar 08
I am so with you, to pay taxes on the little bit we make here just does not seem right
@gemini_rose (16264)
•
25 Mar 08
Ah so thats why they have been hounding me just lately about my updating my account, I had to declare just recently whether I was buying to sell on ebay, I thought thats what they were doing, luckily I already informed my tax office that I was selling on ebay.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Mar 08
Man, they have their fingers in everything. Good thing you are honest...you can sleep at night.
@GardenGerty (161165)
• United States
9 Jan 08
I have not made enough so far to be reported or worried about it. I guess I will plan on keeping really good records next year. I will have to balance it out with deductions.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Yes, the electricity alone..not to mention wear and tear on the computer.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
10 Jan 08
Nobody is going after our $50, but we have to add it to our total income. It is upsetting. Federal government is looking into taxing Internet. When you sign in many sites on Internet, you noticed that only people from US have to give ssn, other people don't have to do it.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Jan 08
Yes, that money just leaves the country and if you consider the multiplier effect of money (ooh economics class) we have lost a lot of buying power.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
9 Jan 08
It is really very bad. whatever white income people make, government run after to tax them. What can they do to rich businessmans and people who earn black money? they take bribes and those people get away without paying huge taxes.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Well I think a big part of this is to get the people who are trying to shelter income by using paypal. That is certainly not us average folks but the shady business man.
@AmbiePam (94517)
• United States
9 Jan 08
I don't know what that means for me. I'm on SSI, and I made like 100 dollars last year. And that 100 dollars helped me get gas, and little things like that. I know it isn't enough for me to pay taxes on it, but I hope it doesn't mess anything up for my SSI.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
9 Jan 08
I did not spend any of what I made on myself, I bought a gift and then gave some away to someone who I felt really needed it.
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