News Flash!! Bush Did Something GOOD!!
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
January 8, 2008 7:07pm CST
Miracles never cease to happen; just when we thought (OK, some of us...) Bush would never do a single thing that would have a positive impact on the nation he comes through! It's still too soon to tell if this will have enough of a lasting impact to bring about the results we're hoping for and desperately need but the incurable optimist in me is feeling almost giddy right now.
For those of you who are still scratching your heads and saying "What did I miss?" here it is - the voter turnouts for Iowa and apparently in New Hampshire have been nothing short of amazing and many of those who have turned out to vote did so for the first time including many young voters!
What do you think? Does Bush deserve the credit for this wonderful turn of events or are you reluctant to give him the credit for it?
Annie
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11 responses
@RosieS57 (889)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Oh yeah. For true Bush gets the credit. People are pumped up and excited in ways thay haven't been for oh, say....the last 7 years?
I think the happiness at seeing the tail end of the closest thing we've had to a dictatorship is valid and real. After all, how bad exactly do you have to be to be worse than Nixon, who was the crook who said he wasn't?
When you make oldsters like us nostalgic for run-of-the-mill average corruption, a la Nixon and cronies, it's no wonder that new participants in the political process are driven, but happy, to be a part of our own regime change. LOL
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@morgandrake (2136)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Amen to that. Nixon looks like a saint compared to Bush.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Don't forgetwhat happended in the next election wehn the people voted for a new type of leader - President Carter. We got a fresh new person who was good and honest. We also got 18% inflation, higher taxes, we became the laughing stock when we spend 419 days in negoitaions with Iran over our embasy being taken over by "students" (one of whom is now the leader of Iran). He let the military go to ruin to the point that we could not get more than 6 helecopters together to try to rescue our Citizens. We elected a nice talking person to be President who wanted to get along with everyone and ended up with most of the world laughing at us.
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@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Is this a sideways slam at Bush? Are you saying that Democrates are coming out in record numbers because they want to be counted? Or are you saying that Bush is respnsible for getting young people interested in registering to vote so they are all nicely registered and out there voting for the first time? I'm still not sure that Bush has done anything positive for the nation. I hope he has, we shall see.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Lets not forget the longest running growing economy, lowest unemployment rate in years, lower taxes and higher tax revenue. We have a larger than projected surplus in the government. There have been no terriorest attacks on the US since 9/11. I would agree that he has done a lot for this country and the people.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Even the experts are now admitting we're in or heading for a recession, which those of us who live in the "real" world have known for a long time. The dollar's worthless, people can't afford to put gas in their cars and heat their homes. There were no terror attacks on the U.S. of that scale BEFORE 9/11 either. The unemployment figures are skewered to make them look more favorable as are the inflation figures. Gas, heating costs, health care costs and food aren't figured in for inflation I heard a few days ago. So, what does count? I know many young families who never paid much attention to politics before but who thought things were pretty good during those "awful" Clinton years but now they're hurting badly. And NOW they're registered to vote!
Annie
@RosieS57 (889)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Not to mention what the rest of the world thinks of us. They think we're nuts for having such a corrupt administration in office for 8 years. Cronies let out of Federal jail time, spying on your own populace, you and your cronies getting rich from obscene oil profits that are artificially inflated -- as I said, it makes the illegalities of political shenanegans under Nixon and even the corruption of Iran-Contra during Reagan look like child's play.
If you want corrupt government, look at us under Republican administrations. Except George the First -- he was merely incompetent which led to only one term for him. But his incompetence is a drop in the bucket compared to his son's.
The world thinks we're nuts for putting these corruption riddled administations in office repeatedly -- and they're probably right.
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@RosieS57 (889)
• United States
9 Jan 08
PS - Surplus? There was one when W took over but since then there is the largest deficit ever due to the Iraq War. Which we are in because of being lied to, by the way. Reagan ran up the deficits, Clinton gave us the suplusses and W out did them both by eliminating all the surpluses and driving us deeper into debt than ever before. This war is being finaced off the backs of our grandchildren and great-grandkids. And that is practically criminal, too. There is no surplus under Bush -- only greater deficits than ever before.
Being an ill-informed electorate could well be the reason we got Bush II twice. Hopefully thses new votoers won't let themselves be lied to --such as Bush surpluses!! There ARE no such things -- they are the weapons of mass destruction of the US economy.
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@urbandekay (18278)
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9 Jan 08
You might be correct to say that Bush is a causative factor in this but that is a very different things from saying he deserves credit
all the best urban
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@morgandrake (2136)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Oh, I will give him credit for it. At the college when I go to school, this is the most I have ever seen college kids being interested in politics. I have worked in the neighborhood for two decades, so I have talked to a lot of the young people that I have worked with about politics. I have always been a big supporter of voting, but this is the first time that I see anyone being serious about it. Yea for Bush!
@RowenaTheWitch (947)
• Italy
9 Jan 08
LOL reading the title I believe he did something good voluntary but instead it's involuntary xD.
Well maybe in your country they are talking more about politics and about real problems, but the question is: if Bush is so hated now then who voted for him in the last elections?
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@zeloguy (4911)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Remember that the Congress (democratically controlled) has a lower approval rating than the President... don't be so quick to use the word 'everyone' (and I see you didn't).
Every president that is in the midst of a war is disliked to some degree, even if they are the best President that has ever held office. It is the presidents that get us out of war that we remember whether that is fair or not... case in point Jimmy Carter & Ronald Reagan.
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@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
9 Jan 08
I always get a kick out of that too Rowena. When an elected official turns out to be an idiot, all of a sudden nobody voted for him, especially the second term. Although legally he did not win the popular vote, he won in the electoral college, which is not right I say.
I can honestly say, I have only once voted for a President that actually won in all the years I have been voting. So my record isn't very good.
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@mkirby624 (1598)
• United States
12 Jan 08
Absolutely he should get he credit.
Without his sorry excuse for leadership over the past 8 years, people wouldn't be this excited about getting someone in there to get him OUT.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
9 Jan 08
No Bush has nothing to do with it. It is the candidates and the young voters that don't know about the "election" of 2000.
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Well, if he had an effect it was a reaction to his poor performance as a president and people are very anxious to make significant changes.
Let's just hope the rest of the country catches the voting fever for a change. AND that we elect a president who has integrity and transparency.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 Jan 08
"Yes, we may actually get a record number of people out voting for a change. Get them off their collective butts and get involved. Can I say that?"
Yep, looks like you could say that...lol! It's great that there's been such a huge turnout for the first two states and I hope it continues. That's one way in which it's good that we've had different results so far, people often don't bother voting in the primaries further down the road because they feel it's already been decided so why bother. That's how it usually plays out in my state of Pennsylvania; our primary isn't until late April this year so it will probably be a done deal for both parties by then. I think the longer there's two or more candidates "still standing" in one or both parties there will hopefully be more issues and more views on these issues raised and that's a good thing.
I'm very pleased that so far at least it appears the young people are stepping to the plate. I remember when I was first allowed to vote how excited I was and so were most of my friends. I was 20 when they lowered the age to 18 so I got an extra Presidential election in that I wouldn't have been eligible for if they hadn't lowered the age. I'm glad to see that kind of interest may be returning for the young. It IS their future that's being decided here after all!
Annie
@ImmanentizeThis (25)
• United States
9 Jan 08
Backhanded compliment aside, this turn out has nothing to do with Bush other than turnout is going to be good in a year that an incumbent president isn't running AND his VP isn't running either. People tend to vote more when they think they can make a difference and with everyone seemingly neck and neck as it is in this race, and without the foregone conclusion that tends to come with incumbency, people are going to turn out more. On another note, in New Hampshire, it appears that Hillary and McCain's victories may be an affirmation of Bush's war in Iraq. McCain has been a steadfast supporter of the war, more than any of the other republicans, and on the democrat side, Hillary's is the closest to Bush's Iraq policy than any of the other dems.