Plastic bags may be banned in Australia. Your thoughts?
By Aussies2007
@Aussies2007 (5336)
Australia
January 9, 2008 9:24am CST
Plastic bags may be banned from Australia by the end of the year, under plans being considered by federal environment minister Peter Garrett.
The federal government is looking to either impose a levy on each bag, or ban the bags outright, according to Fairfax.
A spokesman for Mr Garrett said he would move to phase out the bags by the end of the year, after consulting with state governments in March.
Australia uses about 4 billion plastic bags a year, with most ending up in landfill.
The proposal has been lauded by environmentalists, but major supermarkets are against a ban.
"It's just a simplification to contemplate banning plastic bags just because people see them floating in the water," Richard Evans from the Australian Retailers Association said.
A system of voluntary compliance would work better, he said.
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10 responses
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
4 Feb 08
I think that banning plastic bags in Australia would be a good idea. Then all the plastic would not end up on land fill or hurting creatures in the sea. Alternatively plastic bags could $5 each then people would bring their own material bag.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
Don't put a price on them! People will buy them! In British Columbia, Canada, all the major food stores offer cloth bags for as little as 25 cents, and up!
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@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
4 Feb 08
its only a matter of time and they will do this in the US too..we have a bottle deposit in some states..ten cents..but we live in Michigan and some of the states close by don't have any such law..so they bring the bottles from Ohio or another non-deposit state and make a dime a bottle ..if they don't get caught..or too greedy..our state loses millions of dollars a year this way..we have the same problem with smoking and non smoking ..some do have the law and some don't
bags are free i most stores..but they are just platic ..not paper..but in Aldi's you have to either buy a bag for a nickel or use a box that the store gives away..so i just use the free box...and save my plastic bags i get for picking up my dogs poop..lol..there is a fine if you don't do this..fifty bucks
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
4 Feb 08
Australia is about 15 years ahead of the US when it comes to recycling.
And we don't get any money for doing it either. It is a volontary thing that all the people have become accustomed to do.
In Sydney... people have three bins which are collected once a week.
One bin for your garbage.
One bin for paper, bottles and plastic
One bin for the weeds and grass cliping from your garden.
Outside the big cities... country people take their garbage to a depot where there are separate bins for everything. And you are expected to sort your garbage and put everything in the right bins.
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@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
4 Feb 08
you hit the nail on the head..the US is full of states who pollute..its hard to control them as each state has their own laws and don't enforce the laws that are on the books..
i don't know if how many years austraila is ahead of the US in recyling but we agree that we are lacking in this vital area..we have bad problems
i heard that 80% of the stuff we put in the recyle bins end up in the landfill..as the cities can't handle the garbage...some dump it in the oceans...off shore
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@caramello (4377)
• Australia
7 Feb 08
I personally don't have a problem with the banning of the plastic bag as I use my green bags or request no bag at all if I have a few articles and did not have my green bag with me. It is a habit that I have now but must say on the odd occassion I have been given a plastic bag lately, I have found that they are not very strong and have ripped easily almost losing the contents. Not sure about banning them totally as not all think like me! BUT (and I will probably get shot down for this comment!) I would ban dispossable nappies!!!!!!!!
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
7 Feb 08
The only problem that I see with banning them completely... is that almost everyone is using them to wrap their garbage in.
And that is a good thing... because it keeps our garbage bins clean and keeps the flies away. There are almost no flies in the big cities because of it.
And you are right... plastic bags have become very flimsy. They would be better off making stronger bags... and learning to pack them up properly at the cashier in order to use less of them.
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@genuinesqueak (325)
• Australia
6 Feb 08
I live in a small town in Western Australia, and our local supermarket has made it so that we pay 10c for each plastic bag used. I thought this was outrageous because sometimes shop keepers pack the bags with just two items in it, so you end up using quite a lot of bags, and also the shop itself is so expensive that even 10c per bag adds up. But the next time i went there, i noticed a sign on the bags, that said "plastic bags - 10c, all proceeds go to the royal flying doctor service". I think its a great idea now! Maybe instead of governments putting a tax on them (because we all know instead of banning them, they'll put a tax, to make money for themselves) they should let shop owners choose a charity to donate the money from plastic bags to.
One thing though, I keep forgetting my cloth bags! Everyone i speak to forgets theirs too, but i guess its just something we have to get used to.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
As soon as I have unloaded my groceries, I reload the cloth bags in what-ever transportation I am going to be using next time. Make extras, make your own.
I put 2 in my saddle-bags on my bike for local on Island shopping. And I have four, including one insulated for the days I take the Ferry to Victoria or Vancouver. It's a really easy habit to get into!
@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
5 Feb 08
Banning plastic bags....Just makes you feel all warm inside doesn't it? Hope so, that what it's for. What about other plastic packaging? Or Fiberglass. Epoxy. Paint. None of it breaks down. It all winds up in the wastestream. Laws like this do very little, but make big splashes in the polls. So after we ban them can I roll over and go back to sleep? I guess we no longer need to worry about pollution. Yawwwwn...... Wake me up when something good happens.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
Wow....glad you're not my neighbour! Every LITTLE thing we do makes one h___ of a difference! Hope you're not bringing children into this world that you won't help clean up. Yes, hate to admit it, but you hit a raw nerve.
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@solson (406)
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9 Jan 08
I think that it might be hard but also good. I think that it will be hard because almost everything now a days come in a plastic bag. Also it will be good because there marine life i am sure tons of them die due to plastic bag a year. So it has its up and downs.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
For the destruction these do...there are only downs. Change the world one step at a time.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
6 Feb 08
KUDOS to you! What a great plan! I just wish we would stop dragging our feet in British Columbia and get on with the program. Nothing is marring the surface of our earth more than these atrocities. Nothing is killing our native creatures more. You should see these things along the roadsides, and floating in the ocean, where I live. Not only do they leach toxins into our landfills, but the also release toxins in the air!
We are just a lazy generation, and if they weren't available, we would start bringing our own! I have made myself 4 cloth shopping bags, one insulated, which I use all the time. Thank you for such a great topic.
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@ironwindow445 (214)
• India
9 Jan 08
In India they are already banned.I think it is a long time that they are banned alover the world.It is not only the environmental destruction that they cause,but also the amount of cattle they kill.The plastic bags dont actually decopmose and go into the styomach of the cows and bulls that eat grass and cause their deaths.The love for other species and also the love for the environment that we live in should make us ban those plastic bags.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
16 Feb 08
Voluntary compliance is great in principle...but after seeing how much resistance many people have towards implementing change...and changing it might be better to ban them.
Those who 'think green' have already made the shift away from plastic bags and towards bringing their own to shop. We have and it is a lot easier that collecting all the plastic bags and taking them down to the recycling center here in town.
So I guess I'd try voluntary compliance first...and if people were not getting on the bandwagon as hoped...banning would be the next step.
Raia
@posham (1236)
• Philippines
14 Feb 08
i think it's a great move.. plastic bags were created to lessen cutting of trees for paper bags.. now, if that solution turned out to be a bigger probem since it's not biodegradable and people does not reuse it anyway, then moving forward to another solution, for me, is brilliant..