firefox or i.e?
By MrX
@Tko2020 (266)
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
13 Jan 08
Opera is better than both of them. :P
IE is clearly the worst of the three--worst standards adherence, worst security reputation, etc. The only thing IE has going for it is that the majority of big companies/websites/etc. still pander to IE's userbase because they are still MOST of the people online. As a result of this, it is EXTREMELY rare to find a website that doesn't render as intended for someone using IE. Even still, IE's interface is pretty crappy too, and for those users who, even though they primarily use an alternate browser, want to keep IE around for those pages that simply refuse to work right on anything other than IE, you can download a 'shell' of IE like Avant Browser, which is basically IE with a better interface and some more features.
Firefox and Opera are both great browsers compared to IE, but Opera is clearly superior to Firefox. Now, the best thing about Firefox is its extensibility (Firefox's extension system is something you will never hear Firefox fanboys shut up about :P)...which is a good thing because Firefox all by itself is actually pretty lacking in some important areas, and the extensions help 'fill the gaps'. Sometimes, Firefox ends up finally making a feature from an extension a built-in feature--for example, Firefox didn't have tabbed browsing for a long time (something that shocked me when I tried it out), and users needed an extension to have tabs. But today Firefox has finally added tabbed browsing to its normal featureset.
The BAD part about the extension system, though, is that these extensions are basically third-party applications, which means they're not connected to the browser or its developers. As a result, they can conflict with other extensions, become obsolete and/or incompatible as Firefox itself is updated to new versions, and can cause a whole host of bugs, memory problems, etc. in the browser itself if they are not developed well. Another problem is that you have to install extensions separately with each installation of the browser. If for some reason you want to reinstall Firefox, or install it on a new computer, you need to track down and install every extension you were using separately. This is a process too annoying for the average user to want to deal with.
What puts Opera a head above Firefox is that all of the extensions in Firefox that its core of users consider 'can't-live-without', are extensions whose functionality is already built into Opera right out of the 'box'! Opera has a counterpart to basically all of Firefox's most popular extensions built right in, which means that they are developed by the same people making the browser. In other words, all of the issues that extensions can cause in Firefox don't exist in Opera, because they're normal features that are developed at the same time as teh rest of the browser, and part of the unit, instead of something you add on later. And some innovative Opera features are copied and made into extensions for Firefox (such as Opera's fairly-new "speed dial" feature), but I don't know of any examples where it happened the other way around. That should tell you something in itself. ;)
Even though this is true, Opera is still a smaller download than Firefox-with-no-extensions! Opera is also significantly faster than Firefox (http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#testresults), and has better CSS and web standards support overall (in fact, there are people working for Opera who were involved with the development of CSS itself!). It also has better memory management, especially when you have a lot of tabs open, and is available for all three major OS plaforms: Windows, Mac, and Linux.
Opera is really a diamond-in-the-rough browser that many people haven't given a fair chance. If you don't want to bother with finding, downloading, and installing a bunch of extensions, but still want a solid, fast browser packed with features, check Opera out. :) I haven't even scratched the surface of its features.
http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/features/
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@zigzagbuddha (4601)
• United States
14 Jan 08
Thanks for the tip ClarusVisum. I'm one of those people who didn't give Opera a fair chance. I tried it out briefly a few years ago, but I am not real computer savvy and felt like a stranger in a strange land there... it all looked so unfamiliar, so I just stayed with Firefox.
I'm gonna give it another go. Thanks for the link!
PS: I really admire how clearly and concisely you state your case, not only here but in other discussions as well.
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
14 Jan 08
I appreciate the compliment. :)
Something that I probably shoud have added: a (a bit old (wow, 2006 is "a bit old" now :P) but the list of "gotta have" extensions hasn't changed much, so it's still pretty applicable) list of the most popular Firefox extensions, and Opera's built-in counterparts:
http://my.opera.com/Rijk/blog/2006/07/04/top-150-popular-firefox-extensions-and-opera
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
14 Jan 08
Whoops, haha, the list was actually last updated on 2007-07-29, so it's only about six months old. :)
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@wildecoyote (975)
• Australia
13 Jan 08
I think I prefer Internet exployer
I think it is quicker than firefix
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@pathfinderobs (103)
• Philippines
13 Jan 08
imho, i prefer to use firefox as this is what i am using at work though i have both browser, firefox is more convenient and faster that ie..
@barnkinney (1343)
• Philippines
13 Jan 08
firefox! for me, it's really user friendly and it doesn't have the things in ie that would bother you. hahahah!
@zigzagbuddha (4601)
• United States
14 Jan 08
I have been using Firefox for years now, and it really aggravates me when something I'm doing online requires IE, which to me is like inviting some kind of plague into my living room. I hate IE... the pop ups are insane!
I like Firefox a lot, but I haven't been entirely satisfied with it... I never got on well with the extensions bit. And after I reinstalled it on my new computer I never even bothered relocating the extensions that I had been using before. Plus I don't like the orange and blue color combo! I know, pretty shallow and superficial, but there you go.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
13 Jan 08
I have both, but I prefer Internet Explorer. I guess I have just been using it for so long that I have gotten used to it and do not want to deal with learning to use something new. I used Firefox a couple of times and missed my list of favorites and did not want to deal with having to dig them all up again and put them on firefox so I just said skip it. I just use it for one thing and that is it.
Shalom~Adoniah
@Inky261 (2520)
• Germany
13 Jan 08
Firefox works better in everyday surfing and is much faster than I.E. I use firefox right now.
But for my homepage I need I.E. as I can only upload pictures to the server with I.E.
The colors of my homepage look better with I.E., too. I have no idea why the provider did it this way, it is a free server.
Anyhow, I am happier with firefox.
Happy mylotting!
@dude09 (93)
• Malaysia
14 Jan 08
I used IE, Firefox, & then eventually settled with Opera. So, my vote is on neither IE nor Firefox, but I vote for Opera instead. IE is too simple, lack of features & probably the weakest among all other major browsers when it come down to security & vulnerabilities.
Back then, Firefox was great... until the the later versions, Firefox is getting too slow, buggy, & consumed a ton of resources... & the memory problems getting worst for every newer versions! Ultimately, I have to find another replacement because Firefox keep freezing & crashed my computer all the time.
So, then I look for a few other browsers for a while: like Sleipnir, Maxthon, Avant Browser, Safari & eventually I landed on Opera. Mainly because it's one of the fastest browser (like Safari) & got a lot of features (like Firefox). It's the ultimate hybrid of Safari & Firefox, in one package! And it's the lightest on resources when it come down to RAM & CPU usage. No more memory leaks or instability that caused by extensions, because there are non; & most of the features/functions are build-in into Opera out of the box. Just install Opera once & you got almost everything you need... So, that's pretty much about it!
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
14 Jan 08
LOL, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm glad Opera takes care of transfers as a tab or panel (your choice!) and also lets you decide if you want it to pop up when a download starts (close to Firefox's behavior, except I don't believe its download manager is in a tab, but a separate window), to open but stay in the background when a download starts, or not to pop up at all (it'll just let you know in a systray alert when a download is complete).
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