Cleaning thier rooms....
By speedy1279
@speedy1279 (2665)
United States
January 15, 2008 6:16am CST
Okay, I am having a really hard time getting my daughter, who is 4, to clean her room. She will go in her room get every toy out imaginable and not put anything away. When I ask her to clean her room she will respond with one of the two responses: "I don't know what to clean!" or "There's too much!". I just dont' get it because my son (who will be 5 next month) has been cleaning his room since he was 3. He never fights with me about cleaning his room. But of course I am starting to think him keeping his room clean is really just his OCD disorder and the need to have everything in its place. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get my daughter to clean her room? Or, am I asking too much from a 4 year old? What age did your children start cleaning thier rooms by themselves without your help?
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
15 Jan 08
"But of course I am starting to think him keeping his room clean is really just his OCD disorder and the need to have everything in its place"
OH thats very very possible....As for your daughter..why not make a game out of it with her...Show or better yet tell her what needs to be done and see how fast she can do it OR if you also have a room to clean (for example the living room)...make it a race BUT let her know that just shoving things under the bed or in the closet is cheating and against the Clean Room Race rules...something along those lines anyway...Thats what I use to do with my kids...
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Thanks for the suggestions!!!! I will have to try some of them. I have tried breaking it down for her... For example: Clean up your kitchen stuff first, then she will come to me when she is done and I will tell her something else to clean up. But that doesn't always work. She will start and then just start playing again.
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@siouxz39 (6)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Oh lordy, lordy...I am with you in this struggle. My daughter just turned 5 New Years' Eve and I have been trying to get her to clean her room for I don't know how long. Her excuses are: "I am too tired", "I am still playing with that", and, like yours, "There's too much. Can you help me?". This past week I finally finished my project of making sure everything has a place to go. I put shelves in the playroom and playroom closet and put the wire cubes that you can connect together in both of my girls rooms. I think the key to it is just staying on her everyday about cleaning up as she is done. I have found that most of the blame lays with me. We get busy and I get slack in staying on her to do it. I honestly think she is too young to do it on her own, but with encouragement can be taught to do it. Her preschool teacher last year and this year both told me that she is a born leader and delegator, which may be part of her problem. Hopefully it can be fixed...hehe. If not, maybe she will be president one day. I have heard a lot of people rave about using chore boards. I have one, but again, we get busy and I get slack about sticking to it. Gonna put that on my list of things to keep up with.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
I hear you!!! I am starting to think she is too young. But it just confuses me because my son hasn't had a problem doing it for two years now and he is a special needs child. He has ADHD, OCD, and speech delay. Yet my daughter is perfectly normal and healthy. Of course like you said, it is probably alot of my fault because, I too get busy and don't stay on top of her. I also have chore charts for them, but yet again I forget about them. Not sure what to do now! Ugh!
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Ok the two excuses you say your daughter gives are easy to fix. First of all go in her room by your self and declutter. Get rid of at least a quarter of what is in there that will help her "theres too much" excuse. Once you have done that help her and teach her how to clean her room. Your daughter is 4 and may not really know what you mean when you say clean your room. Teach her that every thing needs a place make a game out of finding those places. Teach her what a reasonable place is not just well I want this toy on the floor right here.
@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
I see your point, but here's the thing. I started teaching my kids how to put things away when they were very young. When they first started to actually play with toys, I was the one putting most of the stuff away, but I had them in there with me to see how mommy does it. Then as they got older, I would start putting less away and having them help put things away. My son who is 10 months older than my daughter caught on at the age of 3 and has been putting his stuff away all by himself with no questions asked. Sometimes I don't even have to tell him to clean his room. He just doesn't on his own. So when my daughter turned 3 I figured since my son could do it at that age, then she should be able to. That is when I stopped helping her and started telling her to clean her room up. So she knows how to clean her room, she has done it before on her own. She just refuses to. Like I told someone else, she is very stubborn and thinks the world revolves around her. Anyways, thank you for your suggestions and I will give them a try.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Yes, all kids are definitly different. I don't disagree with that at all. I just hope she catches up soon. I am tired of almost breaking my neck to walk in her room, LOL!
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
15 Jan 08
my kids hate cleaning their rooms...i have bought a lot of baskets for the toys and thats where they belong, also one toy comes out and one gets put away...also, make it a game...we have a 5 minute tidy (like big comfy couch idea) and that sometimes help.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Okay I do see your point. But my fear is that I would have her tidy up for 5 minutes then let her go play and she would just drag the stuff back out. But it is still a good idea and I will give it a try.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
5 minute tidy game....that sounds like a good game to try. Only thing is as big of a mess that she makes I don't think it would be possible for her to do it in 5 minutes. I don't even think I could do it in 5 minutes, LOL! But I will give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
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@mag_keizer2007 (1282)
• Canada
15 Jan 08
My daughter is 7 and she still does not clean very well by herself. She fights and asks if I will help her. Which I sometimes do, just because it goes faster.Our 11 year old is pretty good but she is a stuffer, she stuffs things under beds and behind drawers and in her closet. We cleaned after xmas and there was a wet towel in there from a while ago....yuck! But they all go at a different rate I think. My 7 year old likes to organize things so I get her to do that while she is cleaning and playing a really good dance CD helps her too. Oh I think 4 is too young to do it on there own...there attention span just isn't the best...tell exactly what to do. Like Pick up the barbies and put them here helped my daughter as well. Good luck
@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
I know all about the stuffing problem. Every once in awhile when my daughter does actually atempt to clean her room, that is what she does. She tries to hide the mess and thinks the room is clean. But of course I catch her in the act and make her pull it all back out. You are probably right, 4 is probably too young to clean up on her own. But here is the catch, I don't expect it to be perfect and everything get put up exactly where it goes. If she puts something up where it doesn't go but is not just stuffing it every where I would be happy. But I can't even get her to do that. Of course I think part of my problem with my daughter is she has been spoiled so much by her father and my stepson (who is 11). Ever since she was born, neither of them could stand seeing her cry and they would give into her everytime. She knows this and so she thinks that if she throws a big enough tantrum then someone will give in and clean her room for her. So that is the other reason why I am trying to get her to do it herself. So she doesn't keep on thinking she can just have things her way.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Yeah I know. My husband and stepson are getting better at it. Especially my husband, he has finally gotten sick of her tantrums. One time I told him, "Well it's your fault, because you gave in so much when she was younger and now she knows it will work." I never have had that problem with my son because that is my husband's stepson and so it was easier for him not to spoil him. Now don't get me wrong, they are very close and not the typical step dad/step son. But because he wasn't his, he didn't spoil him like he did his own daughter.
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@mag_keizer2007 (1282)
• Canada
15 Jan 08
Ahhhhh the cry and I get what I want that is the worse. My step daughter use to be that was and she had a rough year last year with us. She wanted her own way and her father wasn't around and me and her mom wouldn't give in. She went through a very selfish stage. And she is 11 going on 12 this year. We got her back thanksfully with alot of patience and understanding and we read the chicken soup books to her. Now she is doing great but it was rough last year. She wouldn't even sleep at our house it was that bad. But if you can get that caught at an early age then you should be fine. You have already recognized it. Hopefully you can teach your hubby and step son to not give in to her soo much..Pick your battles I guess is the saying
good luck
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I'm sure you got a lot of good advice and I haven't read all the responses, but I'll throw in my comments just in case they'll help.
My oldest son learned very early (like 2) that he was not allowed to play with a toy until he put his last toy away. He learned to pick up after himself as he went. Now, at 24, he's not so tidy... It pretty much broke down when he was in his teens. I decided that a clean room was not a big deal to me, there were MUCH more important battles to deal with.
My youngest learned the same thing early, but wasn't as good with it. He turned out to be my neat freak. His room would be a mess, for a while, but he'd clean it spotless every so often.
When they're young, if you want them to do something you have to keep on them about it. If your daughter is not putting her stuff away, as you see it, have her clean it up. If she says it's too much, mark off a portion that she should do. Once she has that done, reward her and in a while, do another portion. I found it best to stay on top of them and as they went to get another toy, tell them to put the last one away. It's a lot of work and they get frustrated with you, but after a while they realize that if they put the stuff away you'll be quiet.
Then, you need to remember, they're expressing themselves. It's their individuality and that's important too. Maybe try a compromise. She can keep her room like she has it, she just looses a half hour of TV time...
Best of luck to you!
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
22 Jan 08
Thank you for your suggestions. Compromising sounds like a good idea, It's just my husband and I don't want the rooms left a mess. So I would have to come up with something else to compromise with.
@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
16 Jan 08
My son has been known to do the same. He is three and has been cleaning up after himself for awhile. he never used to struggle too much with me about it, until recently, and now he lays on the floor, and acts like he can't even move his arms, let alone clean his room. FOr times like these, I set the timer, if the room is a disaster, I pick a certain toy group, I say, Son, you must have all of your puzzles picked up in 5 minutes (depending on how long i think it will take) if you do not, you will get a time out, I then set the timer, and go sit on the couch, or distract myself somehow so I don't go in there and nag him. when the timer goes off, I go inthere, if he hasn't cleaned it, he gets a time out. We then start it over again, Okay you have five minutes agian, we'll do this all day, and he's begun to realize, that I don't care if that means we are late, or that he's spent half the day in time out. (I have found it best to do it when you don't have any plans, b/c they may in fact try and drag it out all day, also if time outs are not affective for you, you'll need to find something else, taking away privelages? or if he doesn't clean up that toy group in the time alloted, they get taken away for a few days or a week until he can earn them back by complying.. ) He's really turned around just b/c the hassle of going to time out every five minutes, and missing his show and not being able to do what he wants. Also, that day, if I had planned on giving the boys candy or a treat, he misses out, he whines about it, and I remind him, that he did not obey me when I told him to clean up his toys, so he will not recieve any treats that day. Good Luck to you!
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
22 Jan 08
I really like your idea. I will definitly give that a try. Thanks for your response.
@awesomehorizons (884)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Hi speedy1279,
All kids are different. When your daughter tells you that she doesn't know what to clean she is more than likely being honest and doesn't know where to start. Try helping her to clean her room, work along beside her, and explain the why, what, where along the way. Making it a game will more than likely get her interested and then reward her when it's done. You will both be happier. You're not asking too much for her age. It's always better to teach them when they are young to get them in the habit of cleaning their room when they are older. I started teaching my children to clean their rooms when they were old enough to walk and they were cleaning their own rooms on their own by the time they were 3. They still needed guidance at that age and a little help now and then. Just make it fun for her and yourself. Hope this helps.
@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
First off, Thanks for your response. But you see helping her clean her room is part of the bigger problem. She has been so spoiled by her father, that she will throw big tantrums if she doesn't get her way. So when I ask her to clean her room and she doesn't want to, she will throw a tantrum in hopes I will help her. So my problem with helping her is that I don't want her to think I am giving in because she is throwing a fit. Because the only way to stop her tantrums from continuing is to ignore her and not give in. I know she can clean her room on her own, she has done it before. She just refuses to.
@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
16 Jan 08
It seems like your daughter really likes to play, so turn cleaning her room into a game of some sort, and just don't ask her to clean her room, help her do it. Children learn best from role models and parents are their children's role models. So, when instead of telling her to clean her room, go in and say ok, it's time to clean your room. Tell her to start picking up one thing and say that you're going to pick something else up and help her get started. If that doesn't work, set a timer up and 'race' with her. See which one of you can clean the most things off the floor before time runs out.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
22 Jan 08
As much as I see your point. The problem is my daughter has been spoiled by her father to the point that she will throw a fit to get her way. So helping her clean her room would just make her think that throwing fits is okay.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Maybe you should instead of giving her a blanket clean your room, say I want all of your dolls picked up from the floor and put in the proper place. When she does that, sit down with her, give her a small reward, then go on to a next small task.
A room can be scary to a 4 year old, maybe she needs more guidance, a simple task, pick up your dirty clothes, hang up your jacket, put away your puzzles. After she masters each task separately give her 2 tasks, hang up your jacket and put away your clean clothes.
And DO NOT compare her to a sibling, it is the best way to get kids to hate each other.
My son still does not..and he is in the Navy.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
You have some very good points. I have tried asking her to do small tasks at a time, but it doesn't always work. She will do a couple with no problems then she will ask me what next. I will tell her and then she will just whine. I know she can clean her room by herself with no problems. She has done it before. I just feel like she is stubborn and figures if she waits long enough I will come clean it for her. Which I try not to do. As for comparing my two children. I don't do it in front of them. I never have and never will. I went through that when I was younger with my brother. I saw how my brother dispised my parents because of it. I might compare them in a discussion to help others understand my frustration, but that is it.
@joey_matthews (8354)
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15 Jan 08
My son cleans his room now, but only if i help him and show him what i want him to do first.
Hes only 20 months old though, so i don't expect much at that age.
I don't think your daughter is too young to put her toys away. You could always put a few away for her and tell her to put the rest away if she won't do it herself before that.
Or make it into a game and give her a treat if she tidys it all up.
~Joeys wife
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Thank you for your response. I think the majority say to make a game out of it. So I think that is what I am going to try first.
@garnet80 (349)
• Australia
16 Jan 08
If she is responding with I don't know what to clean get in there beside her and show her what to do the first time. After that if she doesn't want to do it start to take certain privledges that she likes away such as TV or lollies. She'll get tired of not doing what she likes all the time or having treats and might start doing what she is told. My son is nearly 3 and I've tried this method on him and it works most times.
@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
22 Jan 08
I have tried showing her and that's the problem. She don't want to do it by herself, she wants someone else to do it for her. So she throws fits and prolongs it so someone else will go do it for her.
@chelle39574 (215)
• United States
15 Jan 08
i had the same problem and i found a couple of things that worked for me we made a chart with the day of the week like they have in school and she would get gold stars it she was good for most of the day if she got 5 stars we would go to mcdonalds i also made a game about picking up her toys usually throw the stuffed animals in the bucket or see if you can pick up more that mommy and it worked very well for me.
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@speedy1279 (2665)
• United States
15 Jan 08
Well you see. I have a chore chart. But my problem is I will start to use it but then get busy one day and forget to use it. So then I have to start all over again. I will definitly try making it a game as many people have suggested that. Thanks for the suggestions.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
22 Jan 08
I had the same problem, but I told the kids the next time there were toys left lying all over the floor, I was going to throw them out. Well, I picked everything off the floor, and hid the stuff in the trunk of my car, and they really thought I threw the stuff out. I left them thinking that for a day or so, but, they've learned.
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@kurci1 (171)
• Australia
16 Jan 08
Let her do it when she wants. When i was young my room was always messy. When ever my parents would tell me to clean it i would do the oppisite. Let her choose when she does it rather than pressuring her to do it. Soon she will do it if you dotn talk about it for a while.
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