i can't get a job!!!
By miacis3101
@miacis3101 (82)
United States
January 16, 2008 3:51pm CST
I was born in Southern California and now I live in Pennsylvania. In the move across the country, I lost my birth certificate. Well, I have been told that in order to get a job in Pennsylvania, you technically must have a Pennsylvania driver's license. Now I know that not everyone follows that rule, I've had a couple jobs since moving here. But I am currently unemployed and I am looking furiously for a new job. I had an interested party call me and when I told them that I hadn't gotten my PA driver's license, they said that they could not offer me a job. In the years since I lost my birth certificate I have been fighting with the state of California and the county I was born in for a copy of this ever so important document. The hospital I was born in was closed years ago and the county says that I do not exist in their system. I have been told that I would need to call the secretary of state to get this information. Have you ever TRIED calling the Secretary of State office in Sacramento, California? They are open for FOUR hours and every time you call, their phones are busy! The only other thing to do is actually GO to the office and get it manually. With no job and living on the other side of the country, there is no way to do this. I've just about lost my patience with the state of California. Can anyone give me some advise about this?
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7 responses
@angieang (262)
• United States
16 Jan 08
Sorry to hear about this. There should be a way that you yourself can look up county records on-line. There are many websites that can find that documentation for you. Other than phone have you tried e-mail!! That is the most up and coming form of communication that gets a typically fast response. Being that people can check it and not be in the office. Make sure to send one or two every day and not just just one person everyone in the office!
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@miacis3101 (82)
• United States
16 Jan 08
I have scoured the California website and ALL I have been able to find is a phone number and a mailing address. Talk about low tech! You would figure that such a high profile building would WANT to keep the foot traffic to a minimum with all of the terrorist issues this country has been having lately. As for the websites, I have already forked out over $80 trying to get this information. The web sites will charge you $30 to $80 a pop and it's nonrefundable whether they find the information you are looking for or not.
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@kashifmahmood (617)
• Pakistan
17 Jan 08
This is crazy , they are charging so much for this type of information.I can understand what you are going through at the moment and it is very hard for you to get a job here.I suggest that you sent your inquiry in writing ,explaining them the whole scenario and request them to issue you a temporary letter that can be used in place of your birth certificate so that you can use it until you receive a copy of your birth certificate.I will also suggest that in the mean time you keep searching for the jobs and also search or online jobs on freelance sites they might be difficult to find but if you find one, you can make some decent money out of it.I hope your problems are over soon !
@miacis3101 (82)
• United States
17 Jan 08
I was FINALLY able to get a hold of the Office of Vital Records in Sacramento, CA. Since my last name was changed shortly after I was born,(Yes, I'm illegitimate) I was told that the county would no longer have those records and that they would be sent to the state. Well, I should get the document I need in up to 12 weeks, but it only cost me $14 instead of the $30 to $80 that the other websites would charge. My advise is to go through the state for information like this. Those web sites are just making up to over 200% off of something that should only cost you $14!
@miacis3101 (82)
• United States
16 Jan 08
And then wait 9 months for a response. I might as well just get born again.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
10 Jul 08
Hello Miacis,
Obtaining a duplicate birth certificate should be as easy as:
Calling the "Registrar of Vital Records" in the county where you were born.
Requesting the address to send a written request, with whatever fee is required (usually less than $25.00), and mailing out the written request. My husband and I have both done this with great ease.
However, since the county claims that you do not exist in their system, I would suggest the following:
Apply for a U.S. Passport! You do not need a birth certificate to obtain a passport -- just as Senator Obama. Sorry, I digress -- I've got Sen. Obama's failure to provide evidence of his U.S. Citizenship on the brain, from another discussion.
Anyway, if you don't have a birth cert. you can fulfill the following steps to get a passport -- which is considered proof of citizenship, and should easily substitute for your missing birth certificate.
___________________________________________________________
From the U.S. State Dept. website:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html
"If you do NOT have a previous U.S. passport or a certified birth certificate, you will need:
Letter of No Record
Issued by the State with your name, date of birth, which years were searched for a birth record and that there is no birth certificate on file for you.
AND as many of the following as possible:
Baptismal certificate
Hospital birth certificate
Census record
Early school record
Family bible record
Doctor's record of post-natal care
NOTES: These documents must be early public records showing the date and place of birth, preferably created within the first five years of your life. You may also submit an Affidavit of Birth, form DS-10, from an older blood relative, i.e., a parent, aunt, uncle, sibling, who has personal knowledge of your birth. It must be notarized or have the seal and signature of the acceptance agent."
Yeah, it's alot of work. But, it sounds like it's a real priority. So, I'll wish you patience, and the best of luck!
@ladyslew (91)
• United States
8 Feb 08
Do you have a passport? A military ID? Anything that they might take instead of a birth certificate when you go to apply for a driver's license? Or is a birth certificate the only thing they will use?
@retribution (23)
• Romania
9 Jul 08
This is a very sad story to hear and is the classic example of how useless birocracy can make your life a living hell..... A can't think of any advice that might help you , other than just try to get to that office in California even if it means borrowing some mony from somebody
@bellaofchaos (11538)
• United States
17 Jan 08
There are many routes to go one write a detailed letter explaining every thing along with your address and phone number so that they can get in touch with you, Also see if they have a website where you can contact them through that if all else fails file a complaint with the governor of the state and see where that gets you. I'll bet if you tried calling on a tues or wen. there would be less phone traffic. Good luck and one more question do you still have your license from your previous home? If so you should be able to get a new one. Depends on how your state works things. Good Luck and have a nice night!