Christians can you tell me...

Ok I'm not Christian either, and this is one of the reasons. It doesn't make a lot of sense unless you believe the Roman Catholic Church.Why for God's sake would it be important? Its just another dogmatic Catholic teaching. Perhaps I'll turn Jewish too! God Bless!

In a way I feel the same - why does his background matter? I have heard bits and pieces of his background 'issues" but that is as far as I let it goes. I believe what the bible says and if I find where the bible says he was married, I will then believe it. When I find where it says all these things they are "claiming", I'll believe them. They have found to many things from "bible days", the ark, and things like that, found all kinds of things deeming the biblical truth. But in the end, everyone chooses what they want to believe and what they don't want to believe. And I think that is where it should end. Share your faith and beliefs, but since not everyone knows every single thing about every other faith, no one has the right to degrade another faith. If you know yours inside and out, then preach it. But don't put down others. There are going to be people of a lot of faiths up there in heaven. And alot of those who think they are at the right hand of God down here, are not going to be there. IT's God's choice who goes. Everyone will answer to him and he is the one to make final judgement. Not us and not down here. And seems what htey are "accussing" Jesus of doing is something Jesus encourages us to do or is the way we should be, so where's the problem? And I started to look into it, but then didn't want to waste my time, but those that are doing all these accusations of questioning his background - who are they? Are they real christians or non-believers in God or anything else? Are they this faith or some other faith and they are just trying to put down christianity so as to boost their own faith? And I end with - why do people these days have such a huge urge to destroy history? It can't be changed, and proving a difference isn't going to help anyone in anyway - it just spends alot of money to hopefully approve this or that didn't happen or wasn't as we have believed. So what? We can't take what we know today and use it to replay history for a different result. "If we had known then what we know now, things would have been differnet" they say. Well, yeah it would have been diferent but so what? We didn't know then what we know now, so why tear apart the history that made us what we are today just because we can? I have heard often that if the south had taken todays knowledge and done this, that and the other, the South would have won the Civil War. So what? They did what they knew to do at the time, not 200 years in the future and both sides did what they knew to do at the time. Okay, off my soap box, I just get tired of people destroying history...just because they can. And working so hard to prove someone or something wrong...just because they can. I get tired of people tearing other peoples lives apart, just cause they can.

The birth of a child by a young woman or virgin was prophesied in the Old Testament and that shows its importance that such prophecy was fulfilled in the birth of the Christ through Mary who was a virgin betrothed to Joseph. For me it is only a proof of the prophecy and the child was to be what he was as prophesied also in so many verses in the Old Testament.

What makes Jesus important, unique even is not his virgin birth. That and fulfilling the other prophesies is only important in identifying him. What is important is not just his teaching, though, despite translation they come down the centuries clearly, but that his life is totally authentic, that is he practised what he preached, in a way no one else has done and that his life is sacrificed in the greatest act of love imaginable. all the best urban

I must admit, maybe I'm stupid or just missing something but I still don't understand what makes people so upset when it's said Jesus maybe have been married. What would be so wrong about that? Annie

for me it's not important either. what's important is to learn His teachings and apply it in everyday life. it's some people's nature to create stories and my answer to them is, "so what?".

To me, the only important thing you mentioned is the virgin birth. This is because Heavenly Father was his literal father. He did have brothers and sisters, I think. He may have even married. That is not what is important.

being someone from another religion, I don’t have any first-hand knowledge of Christianity. Even then (in the hope that that there are many liberal believers here) I would like to state that I find the very concept of a Virgin Mary very surprising. If Joseph and Mary are human and so is Jesus, then how can Mary be a virgin after she has given birth? Or does Christianity point towards artificial insemination and C-section even in those times? And why are all religions more concerned in projecting their prophets as celibate saints? Don’t you think it’s a disrespect to women in the sense that women and religion don’t go together?

Nice topic! To me, Muhammed of Islam is not belittled by being human. Ditto Moses, Joseph, Abraham, etc. Their teachings and ways of life attested to their purity. I think all the myths woven around Jesus were meant to serve some mundane purpose(s). To me, Adam was even more miraculous in origin than Jesus. Why the fuss then about somebody being born of a "virgin", which could have even been stage-managed? Even in our contemporary world, we hear of some women being s*xed in their sleep by some spirits. Wouldn't such matings have produced some miraculous babies unnoticed? The novel, "Da Vinci", threw some light on this matter, eventhough many people would not believe it. The CNN recently also revisited the issue as raised in Da Vinci, with an indication that the novel had some credibility. I am not a christian, but I love Jesus for his teachings and pure ways of life. I even feel that he was greater than the prophet of my own religion. However, I believe that he was just human, a special human, but not a god to be worshipped.

yes mate...i certainly think that u need to believe in god and alwys keep trust in him.... Am a muslim ...but i always believe that there is only one god and one religion. only the names are different

hi, your discussion is so great,grabed so many eyes here,i dont know more about this,but i know some muslim ,,,they dont touch the woman//man except their hubby/wife..so many i dont understand....

There are 2 aspects to consider; one- every person on this Earth either does or does not believe in this or that, if someone does NOT believe in something why discuss it if it does not change an opinion- those of us who do believe will simply continue believing and pray for those that don't- two- it is madated unvoluntarily to each one that attends school of the history, lives and sometimes bit by bit occurrences in just our presidents not to mention thousands of countless others - what more beauty and love to reveal the life and times of our precious Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. It IS important to know that HE was not married because it would contradict the very BOOK that Christians believe in..the Holy Bible. It states that Christ when He was on this Earth knew NO sin - and I believe this. Now there are MANY who believe in many different things..but whatever this may be EACH "thing" has its past, history, statistics and basis for the belief. If you are NONChristian then why ponder thinking on it anyway. There will come a day, soon I believe, when ALL will have the opportunity to express themselves before HIM. God bless. (Oh, and by the way, Jewish people are God's chosen people and they are quite devoted in prayer and loyalty- the ones who are REAL). Thanks.

Here's a comparision for the exact same issue: You love your family. But if you did a geneology background and traced your family tree and found, albeit distantly, that you are descendants of a really horrible person in history past, will that make you think you are horrible or your parents are horrible or anyone else in your family is disgusting? WOuld it make you love your family members less now that you know you are all descendants from a horrible person way back when? If a great great great great great grandparent was found out to be a major killer or something or hey, point blank - what if you found out you were related to Hitler? Would that change how you feel about all the family members since then? would it make you not believe in your family any more? Of course not. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Other times, what difference does it make?

The importance of the virgin birth is to know that Jesus was born without sin, it is important to also know that the power of God was in the process alone and that the hand of man was not present. Also it is part of the prophesy that the seed of the woman would stamp out the seed of the serpent as seen in Genesis. The seed of a woman means not born of man's seed or without man. Another thing is to let you know that Jesus lived a simple life, not just some rich kid running around saying he is the messiah.

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