Why Ron Paul?

@jormins (1223)
United States
February 1, 2008 5:05pm CST
I am not asking why you support Ron Paul. I think he has a lot of great ideas and seems like a genuinely good guy and probably would shake things up if he got to the White House. he'd be my choice over 80% of all the candidates out there. But what I am asking is why support Ron Paul now as he literally has no chance of going anywhere. I have been talking to many John Edwards supporters who were positive he could fight his way to the White House, but an objective view (mine) knew he had no chance after garnering only 4% of the vote in Nevada. It is hard when you like a candidate a lot as it does make it difficult to see the big picture, but the way I see it, if you are a fan on Ron Paul, why not consider voting Obama? Barack Obama has practically the same view on the war on Iraq, both of them have been against it since it began and both want to get troops out of there in a timely fashion. Ron Paul and Barack Obama are also the most anti-establishment candidates, both of them want change and want change from Day 1 when they get into office. Ron Paul has no chance of catching up to McCain or Romney, but Obama is running very close to Hillary Clinton in many states voting next Tuesday. A shift of your vote for him (in the open primaries of course) could make a huge difference.
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• United States
2 Feb 08
I have a question. How much is Barack Obama paying you for all your discussions and responses promoting his candidacy?....lol
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
I have actually e-mailed him for a job but he gets so many college volunteers that he can't afford to hire me (although he just raised 32 Mil last month). Its a symbiotic relationship as my Obama blogs get tons of hits as my NFL blogs are starting to go into their off season. Plus he makes me a much better writer, strangely. I see some of my work from 3 months ago compared to today and its night and day. If Obama gets in the White House I think he should offer me a position as mylot is just a small % of what I do for him blog-wise.
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• United States
17 Feb 08
Jaundice what a GREAT comment! Definitely a (+). I really fear for our country if he becomes president because he has targeted votes from the young and inexperienced. His denial of playing the race card leads me to believe that he thinks we must be idiots. Thanks for commenting!
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• United States
17 Feb 08
I'm sorry but I just can't see how you can trust Obama. I hate to be a jerk about this, but I can give you 10 reasons why Obama sucks. 1. He Plays The Race Card - Obama blatantly and openly uses his race to gain an advantage by wooing black voters. 2. He's Anti-Indian - Obama has been reported to have been engaging in the worst kind of Anti American Indian sterotyping. 3. Surrounds Himself with Corrupt Allies - Tony Rezko, Indicted for demanding kickbacks, Obama denied helping him, but evidence shows that Obama has written letters to city and state praising his business practices. 4. Wal-Mart Supporter - While Obama publicly bashes Wal-Mart, he forgets to mention the mounds of money his wife made by being on the Board of Directors for a company that produces food for Mega-Corporation Wal-Mart. 5. Religion - Is Obama a Muslim or a Christian? Finding that out would be like asking if Michael Jackson was black or white. No one knows for sure, but his Muslim ties have many Americans concerned. 6. Anti Second Amendment - Sorry, but the founding fathers had something right, and Obama wants to eliminate it. He wants to ban ALL forms of weapon sales. 7. Gas Guzzler - While Obama likes to attack American Automotive companies for not making more environmentally friendly vehicles, he himself drives a V8 Hemi Chrysler 300. How Economical. 8. Obama Ringtones - How on EARTH did they let him do this? Quite possibly the most annoying and juvenile campaign too ever. 9. Obama Girl - Who does this chick think she is? Is she serious with her Blog trying to show why this guy is a good candidate when she has no idea what she's talking about?10. Name - When I first heard Obama, I thought it was "O-Bomb-a", being a sick play on words of Osama, but lo' and behold, Barack Hussein Obama is real, and he's running for president. How about I change my name to "Fidel Musselini Stalin Hitler Castro" and run for President.
@rachy577 (99)
2 Feb 08
I have a friend who is 100% in support of Ron Paul, and as far as she is concerned, there is no alternative to Ron Paul, even if he has 'no chance' of getting into office. As such, she will continue to show her support to Ron Paul, on basis of principle rather than political tactics.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
I hope she organizes her friends and votes. Anarchy doesn't show very well in the polls and its making Ron Paul look like he shouldn't even be in the race. His poll #'s are so low he's becoming a Gravel, soon they might even start excluding him from the debates.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Feb 08
Most of the people I know who support Ron Paul are cheering him on because they are against everyone else voting. He's kind of the "none of the above" vote. He's a cult of personality to many. I've talked with a lot of his supporters who support him based on issues, but most really have no idea what his stand on the issues is. If it's purely issues, then you're right, his supporters would get almost the same thing voting for Obama. However, for those who are on the Ron Paul bandwagon because of the man himself, they will stick with him no matter what. Ron Paul is banking on the "none of the above" faction of his supporters. The only problem with that strategy is, as we are seeing "none of the above" types don't usually bother voting... even when they talk support.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
It is strange as it seems like he has a big following but it never shows up at the polls. I can't believe people would donate so much money and not back it up with a vote, it really has put Paul in almost a Kucinich/Gravel category. But if these Paul followers really want us out of Iraq I don't think they should keep sitting back. I like McCain as a person but his 100 years comment was not very smart. Hillary will do what the masses tell her but she's in the pocket of big business and they seem to do quite well when we are in Iraq (Exxon record profits was it?). I'm not so sure Hillary will do exactly what she says. Her and slick Willy will do/say anything to get elected. Obama's stance on the war puts him on the other side of the canyon vs. McCain on the Iraq War, whereas Hillary is somewhere in the middle.
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• Canada
2 Feb 08
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWM7TLNm0w
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• Canada
2 Feb 08
its the closest thing to anarchy.. he is a libertarian so im sure he does... but he is running in the rep. party, so he is not advocating it.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
Interesting, I guess. Does Ron Paul actually advocate anarchy though? I think many Paul followers are not seeing the big picture.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
That guy makes many good points but to me anarchy is only going to get you kicked out of there. He should be preaching organizing more than anarachy as Ron Paul has been swept under the rug for the most part from getting such a low % of the votes. He also sounds a little paranoid about the voter fraud. I'm sure thing happen but if anyone is out there surpressing the vote of one candidate its not the easiest thing to get away with.
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@kykidd (6812)
• United States
1 Feb 08
You've got a good point here and I don't have an answer, but I had something to add to the conversation. I thought it was interesting that Ron Paul won all of the "text in your vote" competitions after all of the debates even after he didn't get that much of a rating on any other poll.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
Paul does seem extremely popular online but unfortunately it looks like many people who like him might not be visting the polls. I just found out Moveon.org endorsed Obama earlier today as well.
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@kdhartford (1151)
• United States
2 Feb 08
I think that Ron Paul actually appeals to something in me, although I will not vote for him. His strict constitutionalist stance is something I like, but I'm also a realist. I know that we can not shrink from the world and still be safe. I also disagree that Obama is an anti-establishment candidate. He is running on change, but he is part of the problem rather than a solution. I like John McCain, at least he fought for this country and sacrificed much more than many American ever will. I also thing that at least John McCain gets things done, even if I don't 100% agree with him.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
McCain has for the most part agreed with all of Bush's strategies these last 8 years and has announced he is willing to stay in Iraq for the next 100 years. I have no doubt he thinks he is doing the right thing but the Rep's are the ones who got us into this mess. I'm not sure what Obama had to do with the problems of our country. He's the only viable candidate trying to change the course we're currently on and the way things are done in Washington. McCain has very low chances in the general just due to the terrible job Bush has done (and who knows how much worse the economy will be in November). So a vote for McCain now (in the primaries) might actually be a vote for Hillary Clinton as Obama is the only one in her way realistically in my opinion.
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@finlander60 (1804)
• United States
17 Feb 08
My personal opinion, at the moment, is that a vote for Ron Paul is a throwaway vote. That alone will not sway my vote. Unless I see a drastic change, I will still vote for him. Hillary Rotten Clinton WILL NOT GET MY VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!! Her early statement about experience in The White House threw me for a loop. "I should be the next President of the United States because I have lived in it for 8 years." Well, by golly, gee, The pastry chef has at least the same qualifications, and probably more qualifications before that. Poor argument, I think.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
18 Feb 08
I agree with you despite what Hillary says she was for the Iraq war and still won't say she made a mistake when voting for the war. Obama and Paul are the only two candidates that have and continued to oppose this false war in Iraq. Paul definitely has no chance but Obama has a great chance of knocking Hillary off her high horse and then defeating McCain in the general.