Dream Team: Obama and Clinton
By petebaja
@petebaja (516)
Mexico
February 2, 2008 3:15pm CST
I was born in the 60's and I distinctly remember when african-americans had no civil rights and women were relegated to the duties of "barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen".
Times have changed in the course of 40 years. Today's talk is about a dream team combining a former first lady and an african-american senator. They're hot and energizing an electorate like no other populist politicians have ever done.
Will a dream ticket of Obama and Clinton work out? I think that combination can demolish any Republican running for the White House (past or present, well maybe except Ronald Reagan). I don't see McCain, Romney or Huckabee generate the type of hype these two dems have.
I noticed during their last debate on CNN that they're starting to make nice to each other. Maybe even their advisers are beginning to understand that together these two senators are better of as a team than as opponents.
I'm not a big fan of Hillary. I do like Obama. But even I realize that the Dems have to be pretty excited about these two joining forces. Just imagine how much campaign money they can raise together. I don't think Romney and his $200 million in personal wealth could outspend what these two can raise as a dream ticket.
The next question is who will be the Presidential candidate and who will be the running mate. If Obama wins, will Hillary take the No. 2 spot? If Hillary wins, will Obama take the VP spot?
All this talk is very premature. Super Tuesday looms ahead. And if one candidate pulls off a blowout, he or she may not need the other.
And then again, if the 22 states' delegates (which are at stake on Tuesday) split the vote, the nominee may not be determined until the Democratic Convention. If that happens, there will be a power broker who could decide the nominee. That broker may hold the key to who will be the running mate.
Are you confused yet? Well, that's what makes this an exciting political season. I hope the final nominee isn't picked until convention day.
Maybe Al Gore can break the tie.
4 responses
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Feb 08
If they did team up, they'd probably win. That's a really scary thought. Both of them agreed to disenfranchise voters in Florida and Michigan, yet people outside those states hardly even noticed. If they can ignore two major states without batting an eyelid, what makes you think the concerns of other Americans matter to them? I'd love to see a female or African American president, but I'm saving my vote for one with integrity. I did vote for Alan Keyes twice in the primaries, but sadly he could never get closer than third place. If only Colin Powell had run for president... He'd be a guarantee.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Feb 08
Why do people like you keep claiming they had no choice? This is America. EVERYONE has a choice. The DNC could do absolutely NOTHING to stop them. The only thing the DNC can do is refuse to seat the delegates. Clinton and Obama CHOSE to sign on and join the boycott. They CHOSE not to campaign in Florida while choosing to continue fundraising here. Apparently they want our money, but not our voting rights.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
3 Feb 08
If I were a Democrat and wanted to become President I think I'd listen to the DNC. I do think there would be better ways to resolve it as Florida might remember this when general elections come back around (always a borderline state) but I don't blame the candidates at all. If those 2 states wanted to move up they should have done it in a different manner. If every state jumped up the whole process would be even more chaotic than it already is.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
3 Feb 08
Colin Powell actually likes Barack Obama, he didn't endorse him but he said some great things about him about a month ago in an interview (I wish I had the link)
What happened in Florida and Michigan is that they broke the rules of the Democratic Party jumping their primaries in front of Super Tuesday. To prevent more states from doing this the Democratic National Party sanctioned those 2 states. Obama and Hillary had no choice, they were not allowed to campaign there.
@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
3 Feb 08
Actually, I think Obama and Clinton as running mates is a bad idea. Clinton brings a lot of baggage when her husband opens his mouth its always bad news. I would love to see a woman president, but not Clinton.
I think if Obama wins the Democrat nominee, then she should select a person that would help him win the office. I realize we have a long way to go now.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
2 Feb 08
I think if Obama wins the nomination Hillary might be more of a hindrance than help due to her extraordinary negative numbers. Its hard to say if people will not vote for Obama because they hate Hillary, but I'd prefer Edwards as Obama's running mate. A white male from the south who people have tons of respect for.
If Hillary wins the nomination they are worried they will turn away all the new young and independent voters who are coming out for Obama. (Dem's have doubled their turn out from 4 years ago). The Clinton's have also turned off many people with their dirty politics and pissed off some black people with some of Bill's dumb comments.
So if she gets it they will hope by bringing Obama along as VP that they can repair those relationships and not lose all these brand new voters.
As for this new "alliance" I personally don't like it as I think Hillary gains more. It is nice not to see all the mud the Clinton's were throwing but the Clinton name is so big and well known (as shown in Florida where un-campaigned voters voted heavily for Hillary because they didn't known the candidates)Obama is still the underdog and needs to make up ground.
That debate was a great opportunity to gain ground (which he did on the Iraq War over her) but it was a missed opportunity as their hugging and near smooching took all the headlines of the night.
@petebaja (516)
• Mexico
3 Feb 08
Well said! I too felt that the smooching and hugging at the end of the debates overshadowed Obama's points. That's the media for you. They publicize the sensational rather than the core issues.
I also agree with your point that Hillary gains more having Obama on her ticket than he would having her. The Clinton name just comes with a lot of excess baggage.
@lightningd (1039)
• United States
2 Feb 08
I watched the debate the other nite, and that possibility was brought up with Obama and Clinton. While neither one said they would welcome that, neither one denied it as a possibility.
While we have equal rights (supposedly), I still believe there is alot of predjudice in this country. I think there are alot of people out there, mainly those over 50, who would not vote for Obama because he is not white. I also think that there are still those that don't think a woman can run this country. It's hogwash of course, and I think both of the candidates could do a far better job than any of the republicans out there.
We're going to have to hope and pray that regardless of which one gets the democratic nomination, these older voters can let go of their prejudices, and not allow a republican back in office. It boils down to it's going to be either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton as the democratic nominee. Do we really want to chance another republican? I sure don't.
I am registered as an Independent voter. I vote my conscience, and who I think is best suited for the job. While I don't agree with everything the democrats believe, I do not believe in most of what the republicans believe. For example, I was asked the other day, why, if I do not believe in abortion, I am not a republican. I said it is more complicated than that. While I don't believe in abortion unless it is necessary to preserve the life of the mother, I do believe in stem cell research. I can't trade one for the other. I also do not believe that big business should get all of the tax breaks. I also believe that the majority of republicans have never had to work a low paying job to support a family and they are out of touch with what the majority of the country goes through just to pay their bills.
In my local races, I have voted for republicans. Our county attorney is one example. He is competent, does his job well, and does not think he is entitled to anything. He works his butt off. However, in our township elections, although I know the candidates (all are republican), and most of them think they are better than the rest of the people in our township. How do I vote on that?... well, I choose the lesser of the evils, or NONE OF THE ABOVE.
I think a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton white house would be just what this country needs. It would be a change for the better.
@TwstdSistr72 (1)
• United States
3 Feb 08
I am a staunch Democrat and would be more then thrilled to see either Obama or Clinton in the Whitehouse, although I am an avid Obama Supporter! I think that both have wonderful skills to bring to the table, and I would think the strength of the two of them could be a successful partnership. Obama is very charismatic, articulate, and a phenomenal speaker. Clinton does have fabulous political experiences and contacts. The two of them would indeed compliment one another as well as their common goals for healthcare and other issues.
All in all, I welcome a change in the whitehouse and our country. I look forward to coming events as Tuesday approaches.