Have you noticed that you cannot buy anything that is not from China?
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
United States
February 9, 2008 1:20am CST
Have you noticed that you cannot buy anything that is not from China? It is not just Big Lots, Ollie's Gab's and other discount store. It is at places like Kohl's, etc. All kinds of items are involved from clothing, to housewares, to toys. Eighty percent of all children's toys are made in China. That is scary due to all the recalls. One of the most scary would be the recent beading toy that has a chemical like the date rape drug. What do you think? Are they purposely trying to kill us or are they incompetent? There is something you can do. Stop buying products made in China. Do they really need to outsource to China? If you stop buying products in China, they will get the message. How are you handling this?
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@twils2 (1812)
• United States
9 Feb 08
Hi Yestheypayme2dothis,
Yes, I've saying this about a lot of discount stores for quite a while now. In order to compete, a lot of other department stores are following suit. I think that it started with Walmart and Costco pussing Clinton to give China Most favored nation trading statous(or something like that). Keep in mind that Walmarts headquarters are in the same place as where the Clintons are from.
Not many people relize this but the acronym COSTCO actually stands for China over seas trading company. Well, thats what I've heard any way.
I think with all the recalls from things that have come from China lately, maybe we will see more domestic items on the store shelves soon. Well, I can hope anyway
Take care, Terry
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
9 Feb 08
Hi Terry, you can call me Yessie. I had no idea about all that. I am hoping you are right about seeing more domestic items on the store shelves in the near future.
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@dodoguy (1292)
• Australia
10 Feb 08
Hi Yestheypayme2dothis,
I think the dominance of the consumer markets by Chinese made goods is testimony to the size, energy and productivity of the Chinese manufacturing sector. It's the same in Australia and probably in most other parts of the world - everything in the stores is made in China.
The incredible penetration of Chinese goods into just about every corner of consumer markets is a boon to consumers. This has driven prices down to the point that domestic production can't hope to compete with most of it, at least not fairly.
I'd suggest that, rather than boycotting Chinese goods, we should be looking to find areas in which we are able to compete economically. If China can make power tools and ship them thousands of miles to our stores for a retail price less than what it would cost us even to just manufacture the same items here, we really have no business trying to compete with them. We should be focusing on areas where we can provide competitive advantage - that's the basis of free market economics, and in principle it benefits everyone.
Now, there are valid arguments for protecting certain industries, especially strategically important activities such as communications and perhaps food and fuel production, but those are particular considerations that need to be treated separately to the issue of plain consumer goods like Walmart sells.
Perhaps we need to accept that China does it better. Let's not forget that they do have 25% of the world's population, so ultimately what's good for their economy is probably going to be good for the world's economy in the long run.
@dodoguy (1292)
• Australia
12 Feb 08
Hi again,
I do understand that lots of Chinese peasants are moving to the cities to work in factory sweatshops because it's a way for them to make more income than working in the fields in rural China. Lots and lots of Chinese people are slaving away to pay for their children's education to give them a better future.
Now, it's not our responsibility to facilitate better education for Chinese children, but we should be clear that Chinese industry is paying Chinese workers wages that they are willing to work for. There very likely is a good deal of exploitation and near slave-labor going on, just like there was in England and other places when they had their respective industrial revolutions. It's not position that those things are justified, but that the reality is what it is, and it's economic consequences are unavoidable.
Will boycotting Chinese goods stop the slide in American or other Western living standards? I doubt it. The export of jobs to other countries is part and parcel of the process of "globalization" which is beng championed by the ruling fascist elite who pretty much control the Western world, and want to get control of the rest of it too. The "fascist elite", by the way, are big corporate interests which have control of our governments, just as they did in Germany before Exercise WWII.
So what's the answer? As I suggested earlier, if we can't compete with Chinese produced goods, then we'd better find some other outlet for our productive urges. We'd better find some other way to earn an income. Over time, the Chinese population will develop more refined tastes and will demand higher incomes for their labor. That will take about 30 years to come about - about one generation, in fact, as all those Chinese children now in school get educated and enter the workforce with aspirations of living in the way that Westerners have become so accustomed to.
In the meantime, to be honest, I suspect we're going to experience sustained dislocation of dysfunctional workforces in Western nations - a sub-culture of long-term unemployed or under-employed people who are no longer equipped with marketable skills in the changing global economy. A rich working class, and a poor non-working class. For these people, I suspect growing their own foods and living in self-sufficient communities is going to become a popular alternative. And that will probably last about one generation as well, before everything settles down to a new equilibrium.
@Journeytaker (24)
• United States
11 Feb 08
See, people don't understand WHY it is cheaper. It is cheaper because they don't pay these people making these items a living wage!!! They can give them pennies a day and still get the same product. China does not care about human rights either so how could we compete fairly at all with a country that places so little value on human life? Have you seen the number of products recalled recently due to any number of eye-popping reasons? How about the shipments of FOOD that are turned around because they are FILTHY!!!? This country has become quite driven by "cheap" because that is what many can afford. Why? Because They can't get a job that pays enough in this country anymore to afford better. So this argument does not hold up at all. This crisis was created by this "Free TRade" agreement. I am boycotting Chinese made goods for various reasons, and so are many of my friends.
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
10 Feb 08
You must not be aware of all the items made in China that are being recalled because they are making people sick. Here is only one example:
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2218643,00.html
The point is that our American companies are outsourcing jobs to China because is cheaper and easier to run a sweat shop there and it is here. We are not benefiting. Our people are being cheated and hurt from these products. Even Kitchen Aid is outsourcing to China. We are not talking about cheap little souvenirs.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
9 Feb 08
I work in a promotional products company and most of our vendors sell items coming in from China. We haven't had any complains about the items we sell. China makes the best products. I don't think it would go out of our business. If there's a chemical scare the government would take care of it and fix the situation they would never let anybody be infected with any chemicals.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
10 Feb 08
There are chemical scares. There are many items being recalled all the time. Here is just one example... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21711927 I refuse to buy anything made in China.
@Journeytaker (24)
• United States
11 Feb 08
I am sorry, but there is no way our Government CAN check everything that comes into this country from China!!! Everyday there are things that are not declared for their proper use that gets by. China does not make the best products just ask those people who received the defective heaters etc. What about all of the recent recalls of items from baby bibs laced with lead to toothpaste with ati freeze. No, OUR Government sold us down the river, and they are unable to control how fast.
@Journeytaker (24)
• United States
11 Feb 08
Unfortunately, even our food is not safe. I have been trying to buy food that says "Product of US" on it, and it is very difficult to find. More and more canned fruit, juices, event the nutrient additives are coming from China. I was purchasing salmon the other day, and the bag stated "marketed by Wal-Mart" when I turned it around it said "product of China" . I am now going to buy local produce or grow my own. We are actively looking for things made in the USA. I am also writing my congressmen to tell them how I feel about this. This is the USA!!!! Why are we not able to supply what we need for ourselves??? WE can make a difference if we cry loud and spare not!!!
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@Journeytaker (24)
• United States
11 Feb 08
I have tons of articles and am currently doing extensive research on this subject. This problem is so wide spread. I read the other day that Japan was banning fish from China because it was laced with some toxin. A canadian friend of mine told me that she could not buy cod anymore because the cod was from China!!! They don't need to get cod from China!!! What makes this situation bad is that the Canadian Government won't allow the citizens of Canada to fish those waters, but Japan and others can??? So many of them don't buy cod from the stores anymore. It is really sad to see this level of stupidity from so many who should know better.
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
11 Feb 08
You are absolutely right! We ARE able to supply for ourselves. These companies are outsourcing to make a lot of money. If they paid people to do the job here they would have to pay a decent wage and give insurance. Over there, they can create sweat shops and pay very little money and give no insurance.
@KarenO52 (2950)
• United States
10 Feb 08
I've always bought American whenever possible, even when there are cheaper, similar foreign made products. In the long run, American made goods are better quality, and last longer. I am getting paranoid about anything coming from China. especially since the dog food, toys, and who knows what else. Last spring, I bought a pair of Walmart flip flops from China, because I needed some in a hurry for a trip to the beach and those were the only ones I could find. My feet broke out in a rash, though I didn't wear the flip flops for more than a few hours. It took days for the skin on my feet to heal, and they itched for weeks afterwards. Here's a link to a story about the flip flops: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_wal-mart-flip-flops.htm
It has become increasingly hard to find things made in the USA, and I would love it if there were a store around here that sold American made items exclusively. I would buy everything I could there.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
10 Feb 08
Hi Karen, I am looking at the picture and that looks very painful. To think it happened to you, too. Far too many people in our country are not taking this seriously until it happens to you or someone close to you. I will give you an example of that. My husband knows of my stance on this situation. I tell him not to buy anything from China for our home. He was with a friend the other day, and I guess he was telling him how I told him he had to take back items he bought that were made in China...he already knew not to buy them...Anyway, his friend agreed with me. His family bought material so they could give it to the tailor to make a dress. When they got the fabric against their body, they itched like crazy. This situation ocurred in North Africa. From what I have been reading since yesterday, Wal-mart is very big on China. Someone need to be responsible for this. This is one of the biggest mistakes...and that is and understatement:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21711927
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@bowtieguy (5915)
• United States
10 Feb 08
Unfortunatley this is true, I would say at least 95% of everything in stores now a days comes from china or one of it's neighbors. I remember when I was younger and so many things were maid in the USA, but now you hardly seee anything maid in the us anymore. No wonder were in such debt if were inporting so many goods.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
10 Feb 08
I think most of the items come from outsourcing. They are setting up sweat shops and making big bucks. Otherwise, they would have to pay Americans a decent wage and insurance to do the same work.
@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
10 Feb 08
My government has been hunting some items that were illegally or smuggled here, some of their items are either fake or low quality but not all. They even manufacture fake Nokia cellphones, as that was the most rampant and hot item here now. Not only they are low in quality, they are also a danger and can be hazardous since they weren't checked if they did pass the quality standards for consumption.
For me, I only buy what I know is legal. Items and appliances are a big NO for me, I'd rather go for other things I'm used to buying even if it costs too much yet I know I'm safe..
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
10 Feb 08
You are right! I would rather pay more and be safe.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
10 Feb 08
I'm actually angry that we even let china manufacture and take over everything to begin with. It is literally EVERYTHING. Our government has let them take over everything and we depend on them for everything. with the economy as it is, people can't afford to buy what little we manufacture and produce here in the USA. I think we are way way too dependent on them and I've thought that for a long time. I had some bad experiences with china made products years ago. That was back when we actually still had some choices.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
10 Feb 08
We are doing a lot of outsourcing in this country and it is not necessary. The USA is supposed to be the best country in the world. The older this country gets, the more unnecessary mistakes the people in authority make.