God and the future
@headhunter525 (3548)
India
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@urbandekay (18278)
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13 Feb 08
I am a little confused. Quantum mechanics postulates a degree of indeterminacy but that indeterminacy could be either ontological or epistemic.
It appears to be true that we cannot know both the position and velocity (Or velocity like property) of some posited quasi-particles at the same time. This seems to be the best candidate for indeterminacy.
But perhaps there are good reasons to think this isn't a true case of ontological indeterminacy.
1. Because it seems more likely that it is epistemic indeterminacy, it is not that there is any indeterminacy of what is but rather it is just that we cannot know what is.
2. Remember that Quantum Mechanics is just that; a mechanics, that is to say it offers no explanation of behavior just formula for predicting them. Therefore, we need make no ontological commitment either way to the ontological posits of quantum theory, regarding them as merely instrumental.
all the best urban
@urbandekay (18278)
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13 Feb 08
Neither of the possibilities above leave God in a position of indeterminacy.
all the best urban
@urbandekay (18278)
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15 Feb 08
Well, as I understand it the problem is essentially epistemic; we cannot know both velocity and position of... and physicists hold that we cannot know because the ontology is indeterminate but, as far as I know, that is very much an assumption. I don't in any case feel any that quantum mechanics commits me to any ontological beliefs as I regard it as purely instrumental. Were I too accept such it would merely strengthen my case as a panentheist Christian.
all the best urban
@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
14 Feb 08
Quantum indeterminacy can either be ontological or epistemic. But to my knowledge most quantum physicists now say that it is ontological. If it is epistemic the question is easily solved.
What can be said if it is ontological?
@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
13 Feb 08
God knew the time you were first created what your destingy will be..but He leaves thi too you to decide your fate..you have free will until the day you stand before his throne...God is the Alpha and the Omega..and the Trinity althogh not mentioned by name in the Bible was created with God at the same time...but this all comes by faith. As you believe you will receive.
@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
13 Feb 08
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@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
13 Feb 08
"Trinity was created with God in the beginning"... can you explain little more that line? I do believe in Trinity though!
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@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
13 Feb 08
sorry i said that wrong..my bad..i ment God the Father was always in existance and so was His Son Jesus Christ but the Holy Spirit came after Jesus's time on earth..He was promised by Jesus Christ ...sorry, Christians are forgiven but they are not perfect..thanks for bringing that point up..i must be more tired then I realize..May the Lord Bless Thee and Keep Thee for ever..Amen
we love thee
we need thee
and we thank thee
AMEN
read Psalms 118:18..it is the exact middle of the bible..King James Version and the shortes chapter is 117 and the longest chapter is 119..i have both versions as my wife is Catholic and I am Ev.Lutherarn but we agree on almos everything and she s from the Philippines
@headhunter525 (3548)
• India
29 Feb 08
Tradtionally God is understood to be acting within time and space as well as outside of time and space. But now with modern quantum physics I wonder if it is possible to neatly divide whether certain aspect of reality is within time and space or outside... because we just don't know! But at the idea level I think it is always clear that God is outside of time and space too.
