My Suspicions Were Right~~The Killing At Ilinois University
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
February 15, 2008 4:06pm CST
Almost everyone of us have heard about the killings at Northern Illinois University, where 27-year-old former NIU student Stephen Kazmiercza went on a killing rampage and shot 5 people dead, injured scores of other students, then turned the gun on himself and committed suicide. When I heard this I was just waiting for this further piece of news, as I suspected the common trend that seems to be going on with all these irrational massacres that are cropping up on so many school grounds...MEDICATIONS
Each and every "killer" who has gunned down fellow students in a killing rampage had one thing in common...they were all take some form of anti-depressant or other Psychotropic medication, like Ritalin. In this case, Stephen Kazmiercza had actually STOPPED taking his medications, and thus the irrational behavior. Many of these anti-depressant type medications have to be carefully monitored once a person begins to take them, and even more so if a person stops taking them, in fact, many of these medications give warnings NOT TO stop them suddenly or can trigger off even more irrational, erratic, violent behavior.
How long is it going to take the medical community to realize that they seriously need to monitor these medications and not be so readily handing them out? Aren't doctors or those in the psychiatric professions carefully monitoring their patients if they do give them Psychotropic medication? How many more innocent lives are going to be snuffed out due to people who are under these medications? This is getting to be an all too common occurrence, and its due primarily to the medications that are being handed out like candy.
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@Celanith (2327)
• United States
17 Feb 08
Wow, I thought that something was too odd as well. My nephew was on Ridalin years ago. He came to stay with us and we took him off. He was not allowed a lot of sugar or sweets. His grades went from F's to C's and B's. His dad took him back and he went back on Ridalin and grades went to F's again. This went on for 3 years. He is now really messed up. He did NOT need the Ridalin but his parents could not cope. He did not need all the sugar. Which made him hyper.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Feb 08
I agree, sometimes the greatest culprit in behavior problems is too much sugar in the child's diet, gee, no wonder they are hyper and bouncing off the walls. Gary Null the nutritionist often have link poor diet in a lot of behavioral problems
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Feb 08
Fortunately I try to really limit as many processed foods as possible...besides..look at all the damm recalls so many are having anyway for e. coli...my one downfall though...LOL...I do treat myself to ice cream once in awhile...heehee, but that's about it
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@GnosticGoddess (5626)
• United States
17 Feb 08
THAT is crazy...
I freaking despise all these pharmaceutical companies...
And I hate it when doctors rely solely on medications too!
I've been told the general practitioner I've recently chose is a pill pusher. I need to make another appointment with her soon about numbness I've been experiencing as well as muscle pains and if she tries to pull our her script pad I'm going to tell her what for! I don't want meds I want to know WHAT is causing it.
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@GnosticGoddess (5626)
• United States
17 Feb 08
I know it. It all goes back to them damn pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies giving doctors bonuses!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Feb 08
I know, doctors want to push medications for everything and anything but never want to look deep into the cause of a problem....many times it can even be simply some nutritional problems...so why not treat with knowing nutrition needs rather than pushing pills?
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@tanujarneja (2829)
• India
16 Feb 08
Hmm Thats True
Even I will say nice discussion for me
You were absolutely right
god bless you
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Feb 08
Can you contribute a bit more in your answer?
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
16 Feb 08
ya know what I thought the same thing.
I just dont get it the Docs. passing out these med like this and probably didnt need them in the first place. all they need to do is look deeper into the kids to find what really is wrong with them for I am thinking most DONT need these meds
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@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
18 Feb 08
I'm actually surprised the medical community isn't being more careful with handing out meds. When I began taking my anti-anxiety meds, I was monitored rather closely the first few months and then my vists were tapered off if it seemed like I was doing well on them. If I had to change doses, I went back a few weeks after I started the new dosage to make sure I was adjusting well and that I wasn't have any adverse side effects.
I think more doctors need to be like that, because obviously, what they are doing now isn't working.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
18 Feb 08
Well you must have had a good doctor who was conscientous and caring about his/her patients...unfortunately not all docs are as caring are they??
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@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
17 Feb 08
Pyewacket you are my good friend but I have to disagree with you on this to a degree. We do not know how Steven would have been if he did not take his meds?
I agree that these doctors tend to pass some of these meds out like candy and they are getting away from talk theapry. I feel when they closed the mental institutions that opened the door to more mentally ill people out in society that are not controlable.
The killer of the Virginia Tech students needed to be on meds and needed to be in an institution. He was so bad that one a teacher or teachers where meeting him alone so he would not have contact with other students.
I feel there must be something in the enviroment, in our food or some where that we are picking up toxins that is causing so many people to become mentally ill. I do not know if it is all the perservatives in the food we are eating, the pollutions in the air and water or what it is.
I do not believe we can blaime it totally on the antipsychotic medications.
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
16 Feb 08
I do think that medicines being used or used wrong can make you crazy. I also believe that all the chemicals we are all exposed to could also be doing something to us.
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@albert2412 (1782)
• United States
15 Feb 08
Hello Pyewacket. It just seems to me that everone of the people who have done these shootings in a school or college have been mistreated and picked on. If these people who pulled the trigger had not been mistreated and inbstead had been treated with love, compassion, and fellowship, I doubt of most of these killings would have occured.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
15 Feb 08
It really has nothing to do with these people being mistreated or abused....they were all on medications that had serious side effects, especially violent behavior...many of these kids who committed acts of violence (and there are numerous case histories) came from very good, and loving homes and weren't abused in any way.
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@sirnose (2436)
• United States
16 Feb 08
I think that this and similar incidents of this nature has more than one component.Its not just the meds they are taking. It seems that these some-called-postal killings are coming in sequence one after the other.My conspiracy theory antenna starts to rise up everything I hear of such tradgies.My thoughts and prayers goes out to the victims and their families and friends.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Feb 08
Uh...just a little confused here...postal killings? I was talking about the killing that happened at a university and students were killed, but yes my prayers are with the victim's families too
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@Foxfire1875 (2010)
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18 Feb 08
Unfortunately it's easier and cheaper just to hand out medications. If as much was spent on therapy, there would be a lot more happy people and these senseless killings would more or less stop. I doubt they'd stop completely as some people will go undetected and also lets face it living today is hell, there is so much pressure these days.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
18 Feb 08
Unfortunately though even therapists, especially psychiatrists are also all to ready to hand out medications also
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