Forgive and Forget!!!
By micaella
@micaella (396)
Philippines
February 16, 2008 7:24am CST
Are you the type of person who can easily forgive and forget, if you found out someones steeling the heart of your loveone? That your partner involved to someone else?
Can you give your understanding and just forget everything if you foundout that your partner dating someone else?
Is anyone could tell me how to forget and forgve --- just for someone that you loved?
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20 responses
@bonnieblue80 (77)
• United States
16 Feb 08
Forgiveness is something we give, forgetting is something we do within ourselves.
To me it would totally depend on if the cheating spouse really wanted forgiveness, or if they were just too much of a coward to end the relationship. There are three reasons to cheat as far as I see it.
1. An extremely strong physical attraction to someone and the offending spouse lacks will power and respect for their spouse.
2. The marriage is unsatisfying for one of the members and they lack the tools to address the problems of the marriage, in turn they seek out or stumble upon someone else who satisfies their needs.
3. The offending spouse has a psychological issue in that they desire that first initial lust of a relationship and marriage now bores them.
But whatever the reason, cheating is about selfishness. It is about disregard for the other spouses feelings and well being. It is never something that benefits the marriage relationship, but it is something that can destroy it.
If I found out my husband was cheating I would ask a few questions first. What was it that he was getting out of the relationship with the other person that he was not getting in ours? Was it just physical or emotional or both? And can our relationship be fixed now and do I want to fix it?
His answers would stipulate my response. If I looked back and saw that I was not meeting his needs in our relationship then I would be willing to take my part in the responsibility of causing the cheating.
However, I would expect my husband to acknowledge that he took the cowards way out in dealing with the issues. If after much discussion we came to the conclusion that our marriage was just not working even though we have tried everything (which is a lot mind you) then I would be content with a divorce, to free me to find someone else who would have the respect for me to not cheat.
If my husband was honestly sorry for the relationship he started with someone else, and for the lying that had ensued, then I would probably find forgiveness in my head for him. (I say head because that really is where our emotions come from, not from the thing beating in our chest.)
It would take a lot of discussing, though I don't think I would hold on to the initial anger felt when I discovered that the cheating was happening. To forgive we must let go of anger, otherwise there is no forgiveness.
For me to forgive I have to let go of all emotions that might be felt. Not denying them, but just not looking at the situation with an emotional eye, but one of logical reason. There is always a reason to cheat even if it is not a good one.
I realize that often it is more about the relationship that was forming with the other person than was about hurting their spouse. Often times a relationship can form between a spouse and an outside person that actually causes the damage in the marriage relationship.
Suddenly there is this new person, who seems cool, and great and we start comparing what our spouse does to this new person. Unfortunately, this new person may not be all they seem, and over time after the cheating has started the spouse may realize that they had a great thing with their spouse and they really do love them.
So I guess it would really depend on the circumstances surrounding how I found out, if they confessed without being found out, if they continued to lie about it even after found out, and how sorry they actually are and if they really want to work through it.
I would also need full disclosure about the events to move on. These might be hard to hear, but often our imagination is way worse than reality.
I could give forgiveness if it was genuinely being sought, but forgetting is something that could not be done. I could not bring it up, but I would never trust them in a naive way again. To move on I would have to remember that I love him and that to make it work I can't constantly be jealous or suspicious, but I wouldn't fully trust him as it was before. It would be different because the expectation of faithfullness had been broken.
To really work out the marriage if it is to stay together it is a matter of getting over what has happened and really working towards showing each other love. Sometimes marriages can survive cheating, sometimes it can, and only those involved can make that decision.
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@joyce959 (1559)
• Philippines
16 Feb 08
You have tackled the issue very well in your discussion Bonnie. I really enjoyed reading your discussion and gave you a plus (+).
I had experienced being cheated also long time ago. I had given my forgiveness but forgetting what happened, is really hard to do. It still comes back once in a while. But you are correct in saying that "To really work out the marriage if it is to stay together it is a matter of getting over what has happened and really working towards showing each other love. Sometimes marriages can survive cheating, sometimes it can, and only those involved can make that decision".
@micaella (396)
• Philippines
11 Mar 08
Hello friend Bonnie!
First let me say thank you very very much for the wonderful comments...
Acctually I tried to ask my hub to introduce that girl to me, since the girls know what was her doing to her life and to our family, im sure she has this idea already that their really making our family a big mess. But then its almost 2 months now still, i really dont know why im still here, waiting for the promised that my hub made, that one of this days he will ask that girl to come to our house. He made one of his promised to me, that he will resigned to his work or job cause, the problem we had is from his job
He was employed to that company, not telling the truth which country i came from so he never ever introduced me to his co workers or boss, though its not really good i need to keep quiet just to have a wonderful life with him, here in his own country. But i wasnt realized he will abused my patience....coz i though i really can do trust him....
I made those checking and tried to called some telephone numbers from his cell or trying to listen his calls but then not all of their language is understandable to me ......
Asking about the word Divorce, is the first and important word i always say and ask to him... But then he keeps tellin me that he doesnt want our marraige to end with that...telling those wonderful word, bla bla bla.....
Only thing and I am sure about why i am still with him is, my son.... I talk to my son already, he knew aboout what i have in my mind now, goin back to my own country, i ask him if he will go with me or not, he replied, yes but he likes to be with his father too, since his still young and i will be hypocrite if i say i dont mind my sons fellin, but i dont have any idea to forced him or do something that will make morecomplicated...
I respect my sons decision, If he still wants to be his father i will give what he wants, i know he still goin to look for me someday.....
The only thing i am doin now is taking some recordings everytime we talk, my son and I, or my hub and i, so that when the right time comes and my son will grow up, i can expalin it to him why and how etc... those proof is much important to me since hes mind is still not open to this kind of trials in life of every mankind....
Thanks again frriend....
@o2bfree (225)
• United States
16 Feb 08
I really enjoyed reading this and feel very much the same as you. I know each individual circumstance must be handled in its own unique way with the two people involved. I would really love it if you would read my first discussion and share with me any insight you may have.........
@Jemina (5770)
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17 Feb 08
Unfortunately I am not that type of kind. Generally I am very patient with people. But when my patience is abused and exhausted it's almost impossible to earn it again. After some time I forgive what's done to me but not forget. Our mind is very powerful and once we put the data in there it can not be undone unless we get an amnesia.
@Jemina (5770)
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10 Mar 08
We need to protect ourselves from being abused by showing that we get angry sometimes. When people notice that we don't get mad no matter how inconsistent they are, they don't hesitate to abuse us even if we get hurt.
I hope you find the happiness and peace that you deserve.
@micaella (396)
• Philippines
19 Feb 08
yes friend, I think i was been abused for being so patience, thats what i am feelin this time so thats the reason why I think why its hard for me to forgive and just forget as what as everyone, my partner and my hubs family doin ....
Thanks for the response friend.
@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
12 Mar 08
it is the hardest to forgive and forget that one person whom you have given so much love and so much trust, cause even if it was like ages ago.. the pain and dagger feeling in your heart will probably never completely go away...
as for me.. i am more easily to forgive than forget the things done to me.
I forgive but does it mean that not forgetting means you have not 100% forgiven that person? As for me, the thought of betrayal will always be on your mind and no matter how you try to cast it away.. sometimes, it will just never go.
@micaella (396)
• Philippines
11 Mar 08
Yha! I believe in saying too. If you love someone you will give his or her wants....
So i am too... I never ever ask any one or do asking anyone just to be with me.... for me if you dont like me, i dont care, so do what you want to do, if your not happy with my company well your free....
Respect me and i woll respect you... love me and i will love you cherish me and i will too.... But never ever lie or betrayed to me.....
Its not my lost....
@season0907 (671)
• India
17 Feb 08
Hi micaella,
When you know that your loved one is dating with some one other than you, it is a clear indication that you have to forget her.There is no need to worry about that and feel that it is she who missed you and not you missed her.This simple thinking will help you overcome from the feelings and then the time will help you completely.
Good Luck.
@o2bfree (225)
• United States
16 Feb 08
I can easily forgive but forgetting is the hardest part ever! I am in a situation similar to this and am finding it hard to deal with what I found out. Sad to say but I will never trust again, therefor the relationship will never be whole or the same. If you care to read details and give your advice please read the first discussion I posted.
I am sorry if you are the one experiencing this awful pain! Take Care~Cheri
@o2bfree (225)
• United States
16 Feb 08
Thank you, that is too kind. All very good advice that sometimes is easier said than done...... I know we can all move past the pain and such and should deff. take something positive away from any bad situation. Somedays I cope better than others but I woke up this morning with a knawing in the pit of my stomach. Details Details Details....drives me crazy sometimes! Of course this is all pretty fresh for me so I am trying not to beat myself up and go with the emotions as they come, but I want so much to just move past it and be over it! It would help if I didnt have a son with this man and if we were already divorced, and if he werent still trying to weazle his way back into my heart. My broken heart!!
@micaella (396)
• Philippines
19 Feb 08
Thank you very much Friends for all the wonderful sharings and advices.
This discussion really happening to me now and i am still in pain which all your comments brings me relief while i am reading it... So I want to say thank you very much to all of my friends and to hear from you again....
God Bless....
@CarolaMuller (1210)
• Italy
12 Mar 08
It never happened to me to be cheated, but for nature I forgive always. I can't forget. But I try to nderstand why it's happened, and if there is some way to rebuild that trust there was before. I don't like don't forgive. And I don't like forget. Everything is useful if et us grow.
@kat_princess (1470)
• Philippines
17 Feb 08
For me,I'd call for a break up after what he did.And I'll never ever talk to him.
@micaella (396)
• Philippines
19 Feb 08
That time I ask a divorced since i am not that kind of person who willing to wait or pleased something or someone to liked me or to love me or to be with me. I am a person if you dont like me, ok its fine, if you cant give, its fine...but i am not hypocrite i will tell you that i feel sad, that iam hurt, that i am angry, I will tell you frankly what was inside of me, but to pleased someone, No way!
Yha my husband do those cheating and ofcorz he said he doesnt want or needed the freedom that i want to give them.
though somebody say its normal to guys but i cant still accept those sayings... its the TRUST that their breaking and its really hard to fix it.... for now or never!
@jhazie (340)
• Philippines
16 Feb 08
Well, Thats a part of your Understanding, talk more important yes maybe you can forgive and forget but theres a gap now and no trust at all. it depends on situation like you its different.
me, im sensitive i admit i dont easily forget all what my partner did, if happen huh! but if God forgive us our sins why we dont forgive then forget. Its good feeling if we forgive others. youre forgiven :)
@neha211985 (779)
• India
16 Feb 08
if my patner do this with me i cant forget the time which we spend together but i cant forgive him for the pain he gave me. In love there are may ways to go but there is no way to come back.
@micaella (396)
• Philippines
19 Feb 08
For me, If theres no pain, there is no LOVE... I enter to a relationship so I was ready for the pain that will be on my way becoz of Love --- BUT then, I give my trust 100% for this relationship, but seems like it wasnt worth it.
For now, I really dont know how to bring back the TRUST too...
Thank you for the response friend.
@madlees (1377)
• India
10 Mar 08
No I can never micaella, I cannnever forgive and forget these matters. This is love and things cannot be taken that easily. If you like someting, go and get that, if you don't like throw it in the dustbin etc. For me these matters are very serious. Once you get involved with some one you are there for him / her whoever it is.. For me marriage is but once in a life. If my partner finds a better one, yes ok you can go ahead but never ever come to me back, just get out of this place. That's all. I can forget butnot forgive these things.. God b;ess you dear
@Alize997 (190)
• United States
12 Mar 08
I can easily forgive, but not forget. I don't think anyone can really forget. What can happen is that, the hurt from the incident, will disappear. It won't affect you like it did before.
@johncampbell5 (12)
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10 Mar 08
trust and honesty are two essential elements in a relationship, without those realistically it is hard to gain once that barrier has been broken
@subha12 (18441)
• India
18 Feb 08
i think its really hard to forget and forgive someone sop easily in such a situation.its tough. But also if someone cheats on you, then as for me, i will not forgive that person very easily. May be i will try to forget that person. Still that is also not taht much easy.
@nakitalikely3617 (453)
• United States
18 Feb 08
Hello micaella! I am the type of person that can forgive and forget. Especially if I am in love with someone. I mean yes the first cheating situation I would definately forgive my man and stay by his side but if an event it happened again I couldn't just forgive and forget. I could be understanding the first time but if it happened a second time I would just know that he was trying to play me like a fool and I do not get played a second or third time around. See when I tell a guy that I love them that to me means that I will be there for them through thick and thin but a person can only take so much.
@1HelmiPutra (60)
• Indonesia
18 Feb 08
Maybe I'm the type of person who can easily forget but not forgive. I can forget what the happened yesterday but to forgive I like to ignore this and I don't want to remember at all. Maybe I like to remember the beautiful experience of love. That's me
@mermaids_voice (29)
• Philippines
24 Feb 08
If I discovered that my partner is already involved with someone else and chooses the other one involved, I'd give him his freedom... Especially if we're not yet married, that's the freedom we have.
Now i will forgive him and forget every bad things that had happened... let's always remember that we still have had good memories to be thankful of so let's not pity ourselves after a bad experience...By easily accepting and moving forward towards your plans and goals, you would let him and other people know that you respect yourself and you should be respected...Not just that, you also make them know that you are such an independent person whom can move on after each and every fall...
But in forgeting, time is needed especially when your relationship has gone so far.... Let's always remember to be positive on things and be thankful and contented to what we have because that's the only way to be happy once again... In time as you go further your plans and goals, each step of it will eventually help you recover and the least you think about the hurt the more you'll push yourself on track...
Just be positive, if God took away somebody important to you then that means you'll have a better person or a more appropriate person you need in your future...
@yannycui (376)
• China
18 Feb 08
It is hard for me to forgive and forget before I come near to the GOD. I was hurted by others and hurt others, sometime is heart-broken hurt. When I was hurted, I tried to do evil things to them to revenge. But now, I realize that only love can sovle the problem. Love the people they hurt you and love the people who have been hurted by you. Show the world the warm you are, and the world will show you the bright side. Forgive and forget is neccesery for us to move on, and forgive and forget is the only way to make this world much warmer and more beautiful.