'countries' do not exist...and the irony of iraq
@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
Canada
February 20, 2008 9:57am CST
the term Canada is a concept.
same with the united states.
they are non-existent.
a good way to understand this would be:
when one says 'america attacked iraq' it means nothing.
did the concept of america walk over and punch the concept of iraq in the face?
what really happend was that a guy, bush, hires a bunch of assasins, soldiers, to go kill a bunch of people, iraqis, on the other side of the world. the justification for this is that some guy, saddam, had powerful weapons he could use to kill a bunch of people with.
ironic isnt it?
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
20 Feb 08
I think you are confusing the word country, with nation. Nations are a concept, such as the nation of Islam, nation of Palestine and such. Nations are groups of people who share some common bond.
A Country is a physical territory. Australia for example, is a clear physical territory, often part of a nation, that is easy to recognize and define. The two are often used interchangeable, but have different meanings.
I'm not going to argue over Bush's justification for going there. It's no different than the justification used for going to Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, or Bosnia.
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@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
20 Feb 08
the territory must be outlined in some way, like water or mountains.
@urbandekay (18278)
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9 Aug 08
You are deeply confused, allow me to elucidate.
The term Canada is a concept, that much is true but that to which the concept refers is not a concept.
Clearly some concepts must refer to real things or sentences like, "Green ideas sleep furiously" would be acceptable and they are not. That is it is only because the concept Green, the concept Sleep, etc refer to real existants that we know that the sentence is nonsense.
So, the concept America acts like a name. Just as it makes perfect sense to say "Peter attacked Paul, so it makes perfect sense to say America attacked Iraq. In saying this you are not making the claim that one concept attacked another but that to which one name refers attacked that to which another name refers.
Hope that makes it clear. You should read Russell on denotation, Frege, Wittgenstein, Quine, etc.
all the best urban
@fightingistheonlyway (2658)
• Canada
13 Aug 08
the concept is not consistant...
what is canada? USA?
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
23 Feb 08
I'm sorry, I still can't yet get by the fact that he referred to our soldiers (my friends, family, etc) as "assassins" So does this make your soldiers in Afghanistan "assassins"? Do you willingly insult your own countrymen in the same fashion? I spend a great deal of time in Ontario and have gotten to know a good many people there, many quite closely. You, sir, do nothing to represent your great province.