mccain another bush
@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
United States
February 27, 2008 2:47pm CST
this is what i think. At first i was like well i would deal with mccain if i had to I'd rather a republican than a demecrate. But then i watch him more and more and he reminds me of bush and all hes going to do is make it worse. he said himself that we are going to be in a 100 years war. Yes it seems to me thats what most people want b/c he is the front runner. a douchbag all of them are douchbags except for the ones on the back burner. I'm scared for our country and that we are all makeing the wrong decission. What do you think
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@bochco123 (594)
• United States
27 Feb 08
I like McCain. He's definately smarted then Bush, has more experience, knows that war is not something to tread lightly into, and seems to me to be a straight shooter. He has on numerous occasions tryed to work with democrats to get things done (and now right-wing pundits are attacking him for it; disgusting). I sense much less BS coming from him then other politicians. And I think what he meant from that quote about staying in Iraq for a hundred years, is that we will always have troops there, just like we have troops/bases in Germany, Japan, etc. We have a lot of problems in this country, and I'm not sure if he's the one to fix them, but he sure as hell will be better then what we have now.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Feb 08
Please, take a second look at your "straight shooter" assessment. Just in the past few days he's been caught in several blatant lies. He was one of a very few Republicans that I'd once thought wouldn't do too much damage to our country but I've sure changed my mind. Just today he got caught in a lie regarding the wacko he had warm up the crowd at his rally yesterday; he said he'd never met him, then "maybe he'd met him once or twice" - turns out his campaign hired him to "toss red meat" to the crowd. Straight shooter my a$$!
Annie
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
27 Feb 08
i may disagree but we are americans and can think what we want and vote for what we want. I wish our votes meant a little more than they do though.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
27 Feb 08
I used to prefer McCain 3rd of all the candidates but his actions in the last 2 months or so have turned me off. I have lost a lot fo respect for him. Even if he did mean to only keep bases there as he now has said to defend his 100 year war statement, he still seems like he's a warmonger to me.
If you haven't seen his comments on the Axis of Evil, Iran here is something that disturbed me greatly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I
Defenders of this statement have said we don't hear the answer but according to a news article McCain after his video reply basically took the same position as Bush in Iran.
Perhaps 100 years in Iraq and 100 more in Iran, then we can finally bring the troops home in 2208.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
27 Feb 08
dang, hes not good for us. why is he even winning. we are half way there folks and look who we are choosing, i dont like demcrates but obama would be best, Hilary just isnt the woman america needs, and mccain for republican just isnt hitting the spot for me. I hope in texas Ron Paul wins. Cant wait till March 4th so excited.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Yeah McCain is so close to that delegate threshold it'd be tough for Huckabee and Paul to stop him. Its somewhat unfair as the Republicans have many winner take all states and McCain has greatly benefited from those states. I think Huckabee or Paul need a minor miracle to get the nomination right now.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Me too but there is still a chance and where there is a chance we can still do it. He said that hes staying in it till the money and voters stop coming his way
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@NeoComp (1316)
• United States
28 Feb 08
I have come to realize none of the candidates will solve the worlds problems.
But I do think Ron Paul or Obama will bring about positive change in this country.
McCain and Hillary's rule would only lead to the lost of liberty and lead us into a global fascist state.
This is just my view on the matter. thanks.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
28 Feb 08
i can deal with Obama but i dont realy want a demecrate that means more taxes. I just think like you said with hillary or mccain they are just going to get us deeper into it instead of help out.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Feb 08
In fairness, McCain didn't say that he would support the war lasting 100 year. What he did say is that he would support a U.S. military presence in Iraq for the next 100 years... huge difference.
If you don't think the U.S. military should have bases in other countries though, then I can see how you wouldn't like McCain.
I don't like him either, but for different reasons. I think he would be more worried about "getting along" with Congress than actually leading. I doubt he would try to push for anything contraversial to Congress, and if he did, he would be willing to give up a lot for it.
I'm guessing his Federal Judge and Supreme Court nominees would be people Harry Reid would be happy to confirm.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Feb 08
I get bad vibes from him too... but then again, none of this years crop are worth a vote.
Maybe this is the year I jump to a third party.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
28 Feb 08
this is my first year to even try to vote and i voted ron paul
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Well i had this thing planned to tell you why i dont like troops over there, first I was going to say well taxes but the one thing i dont mind spending taxes on is milatery all others can be ran by individual businesses. Then I was going to say well we need to worry about our country and not others which i still kinda agree with but at the same time are we the only ones that have troops stationed in other countries? is there other countries troops stationed here? maybe it is a good idea. He does seem like a follower though. I also just get bad vibes from him. I didnt like romney either im glad hes out.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Feb 08
I've said for awhile now, a vote for McCain would be the same thing as giving Bush a third term and I'm pretty sure there aren't many people who would be in favor of that! I don't think things are looking very good for the GOP this year. I expect to see a Democrat in the White House and a very large Democratic majority in Congress this time next year - or, one can hope!
Annie
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Feb 08
So one choice is another term for Bush while another choice is another term for Bill Clinton. Ack!
You are right though, there will be a Democrat in the White House... whether that Democrat is Obama, Clinton or McCain is yet to be seen.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
28 Feb 08
this sucks i want a recount of the votes. people need to wake up and quit following what the media tells them to do.
@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
29 Feb 08
I have responded to a similar discussion on My Lot last week. I am like everyone else, I have always voted Republican and I just don't know how to vote this time. McCain is just to much of a liberal for my tastes, and I feel like is soft sell on the border issue is just to placate us until he gets in office. Why should we believe what he is trying to sell us now, when a month ago he said he would not change his views on this important issue. Then his advisers tell him if he doesn't change his stand he will lose the election, so now all of a sudden he will secure the borders first thing. He still will not commit on illegal aliens, except to say he will fine them 5000 dollars and let them basically buy their citizenship. Whether you believe they belong here or not is beside the point, what about all the people from other countries who have been on waiting list for years, do we just tell them to go to he^^, because now we don't have room for them. Please, candidates treat us like we have a little bit of common sense, we know when you are blowing smoke screens, and I for one will not fall for McCain's lies. I do believe people can change their opinions, but not like this, just when it looks like he will lose if he doesn't. As I emailed Mr. McCain, give it to me in writing, sworn before a judge, so at least when you go back on your word, I can sue you for breach of contract. We need to start holding our elected officials accountable for what they do to us as a people and a nation. That's my humble opinion.
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
29 Feb 08
I agree wiht you on my thoughts about immagration is that we dont really have the right to tell anyone where they can and cant live but thats how our system is. We can make it a lot better where they become citzens then have the same right as all americans should have the same rights no matter what, Our Statue of Liberty was built on the saying bring your tired hungry and weary. well if we tell people they cant come over here than doesnt that go against what we stand for.
@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
1 Mar 08
I think anyone who wants the opportunity to better themselves and make a better life for their family should have a chance to come to America, if that is what they want to do, but and there is a BIG BUT! You do it legally, You apply just like everyone else, you wait your turn, like the many who have already come legally. You study and learn English, because that is the language spoken here, I can see me going to Mexico, and demanding they learn to speak English because I want to live there, I would be arrested. You get a job, pay taxes just as we do, and don't become a burden on our welfare system. Then will welcome you with open arms. My ancestors came here from Germany, and Ireland, I don't speak German, because my ancestors loved this country enough, that they obeyed the laws and regulations to become citizens. I was taught that I am an American citizen, and because of that I salute only one flag. If these illegal aliens want to be in America so bad, then they should do the same. It inflames me to see the flag of Mexico hanging in the United States of America, and it should make any American outraged. The freedom we have here came at a great price, and it is worth protecting at all cost, If anyone comes to this country and feels other wise, they do not need to be here. If I make anyone mad by saying this, do not expect me to apologize. I am an American and proud of it. I thank God everyday for the privlage of living here, and for the young men and women who fight for us to keep the freedoms we have. God Bless America!
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
3 Mar 08
I agree with you totally, on all points of this.
@superjockh (237)
• United States
28 Feb 08
One cannot based his or her decision for who he/she wants for a president just based on one issue. Because the fact is: There is no particular candidate in which one person will share all his or her views on 100%. One might agree with a candidate on most issues while disagreeing on some minor issues. What I am saying is that the Iraq war is just one issue. Besides, I would advise most people not to vote for a candidate who wants us out of Iraq as soon as they are president. Because the moment that happens, our reputation will be destroyed as a world power, the same way it happened in Vietnam during the 1970s when we pulled out. I strongly believe that the Iraq War was NOT a mistake. The way it was handled is a mistake.
-Feel free to disagree!
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
28 Feb 08
I do disagree but thats whats good about America. I dont like the war in Iraq never did, its all about oil in my eyes and we never should of gone over there. i do think we need a smartley planned exit stragedy that wont get us looking bad and it can be done.
@Aingealicia (1905)
• United States
4 Mar 08
I just found out from a reliable source mccain may have been born in Panama, very interesting.
He is totally bushes puppet.
I mean both bushes.
He gets in oh boy you can write me in GitMo hun.
Ainge
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@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
4 Mar 08
yes its not hard to see that. he just has it written all over him, i wonder why romany left when he was doing so good is he also another of bushs puppets. I hope that america doesnt vote another bush, or a demacrate LOL
@nubsnovets (72)
• United States
29 Feb 08
I agree, he don't know how to run a country and all he cares about is war stuff. He doesn't know how to fix this country. He says that what his staff will be for. No, that's what you are supposed to be there for. On top of it he has a chip on his shoulder just like GOG(Good old George). George was qualified and neither is McCain. I don;t know why people don't see that. I guess people get stuck in a certain party and feel they have to pick whoever their party tells them to or something. America needs to stand up and not take this two party system anymore. Both parties are corrupt. We need a new party and when that one gets corrupt then we'll have to add another party.
I personally am a Ralph Nader supporter. I'm glad he is running again. I just wish that more people knew more about him and all the wonderful things he has done as a human rights activist, like the clean air act or clean water act. Without him our country would be in worse shape than it already is. I also like Ron Paul. He knows what needs fixing and wants to fix he. He tells you exactly how it is but our lovely media that is controlled by all these big money corp. don't give him much tv time. Nader wasn't allowed at presidential debates in the past because he didn't have 15% of the american vote. Not to mention that the Democrats and/ or Republicans run the presidential debates. They will do whatever they can to keep out any third party candidates.
But don't worry. I don't think that McCain will be elected. Historically in the past when the house and senate are a Democratic majority and especially scince there has been a Republican president for two terms, a Democratic President is elected. So, I would be worried who the Democrats are offering us. Hillary is a joke riding the coat tails of her husband and Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He won't even face the flag and recite the pledge. I am all for religious rights but if you disrespect the American flag like that maybe you're not the right person the run the country.
@libertarianfreedom21 (3198)
• United States
1 Mar 08
I agree people dont understand because its what the media makes look bigger that most people go and vote for. The we have much better choices on the sidelines that half the population dont know about. I havent heard of Ralph Nader b/c like i said this is my first year voting and the only reason im here is b/c of Ron Paul and his message. I dont know what I'm going to do if he doesnt make it to the nomination. I will NEVER vote demcrate. We need less government not more.