18,000 Annual Cancer Deaths Due to No Universal Health Care

@anniepa (27955)
United States
March 2, 2008 9:52pm CST
The American Cancer Society estimates that over 18,000 lives are lost in the U.S.A. each year because we don't have universal health. This is because people who are uninsured or under-insured are less likely to get the recommended routine screening tests that detect many types of cancer early enough to be very treatable and often even curable and they're also less likely to receive the treatments they need even when they are diagnosed. http://www.highlighthealth.com/healthcare/lack-of-health-insurance-increases-risk-of-cancer-death/ Obviously, it would save millions of dollars in the long run if we all were covered. What do you think about this statistic, or is 18,000 people just a number which doesn't affect you as long as you know you and your loved ones are covered? Annie
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
7 Mar 08
I'm on the fence with universal health care and I'm someone who can surely use it on one hand. I pay 300.00 a month for my medical insurance but I can't do without it. I like the fact that I can go to doctor's that are amazing and take great care of me, for that I'm grateful and they are worth paying the insurance money for. I don't have to wait months for an appointment and they treat me well. I have heard that Canadian's (from people who live there) have some major problems with their universal health care programs such as waiting for months to see a doctor and poor quality, inconsiderate care. They only way you are seeing a doctor fast is if there is what they deem as an emergent situation that needs rapid attention. They kind of filter your status through their system. It doesn't sound very appealing or effective to me but then again it is free. You do get what you par for in most situations. Keeping that in mind- do we really need the government dictating more than they already do another thing to us. I'm not totally against it and I'm not totally for it- I'm trapped in the middle somewhere. I don't at all agree with the title (article) of this discussion and I know you didn't write that but here goes..Cancer deaths are not due to the lack of no universal health care. They are linked to a disease that there is no cure for. The ACS should concentrate on working with stem cells for a cure instead of blaming cancer on everything they can blame it on. Studies have shown that it is basically a genetic disease to boot. The only thing quite possibly that universal health care can handle is cancer screening and treatment of the disease. But whose to say that even if there was universal health care that people would get themselves screened for various cancers and/or seek treatment for that matter. The only thing that is killing people with cancer is the lack of a cure not the health care system whichever way it goes. Great debate I have to say, you come up with some great stuff my dear.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
7 Mar 08
Actually the 18,000 figure wasn't the total number of annual deaths but the number they estimate is due to either no insurance or being under-insured. Many cancer deaths are due to being detected too late and many of these people couldn't afford the screening tests such as mammograms, colonoscopy, and other routine tests. I know we can't say for sure how many would get the tests even if they were covered for it, but it's pretty certain at least some of those who ended up dying would have, especially if they had a family history or other risk factor. I must say, even if there were a cure what good would it do for someone who couldn't get it or wasn't diagnosed until it was too late anyway? There are many curable diseases that are still fatal if not caught and treated in time. Once again, I'm not for the government running our health care and that's not what is meant by universal care as pertains to the current political debate. It would be a way to put more people in the same pool which would therefore bring costs down for everyone. I do think that if the insurance companies are so greed and concerned more with profits than with lives the government should dictate that they can't deny coverage to people with preexisting conditions or prevent them from taking their coverage from one job to another, which they do now on a routine basis. Annie
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
7 Mar 08
First of all, I'm so sorry about your health problems, Hon. I'd read a few other references to the fact you've had cancer and I never wanted to pry or ask personal questions but you're certainly in my thoughts and prayers. I understand where you're coming from in some of your remarks but if you're in remission doesn't that mean you've gotten time you maybe wouldn't have had otherwise? I've known many people who have had this horrible disease, some who are also in remission or "cancer free" right now and some who are no longer with us but who got quite a few good years they probably wouldn't have had without treatment. If what you say is true, there's no point for any of us to have mammograms or any other of the routine screenings which I do believe save lives but are not available to millions of people. I certainly wouldn't be willing to "bet" the life of a loved one that a cure, if discovered, would be readily available to everyone regardless of insurance coverage or ability to pay. Also, private charities only go so far and many are tapped out today because the need far outnumbers the resources. Annie
• United States
7 Mar 08
Treatments prolong life but in fact nothing medically can ultimately save your life other than a cure- a complete annihilation of Cancer. I'm in remission and honestly without my post partum check up I would have never known...there are some cancers that are not routinely checked for and ovarian cancer is one of them. Mine was found on a fluke- thanks to surgery, grueling chemo, and a whole lot of luck I'm fine now at least for now. The threat of it coming back is constantly over my head, I have a common cold and I go to the doctor to get my blood drawn to make sure that my body can handle it, I get my blood drawn every couple of months to make sure my meds are working and that it hasn't come back- yet. What if universal health care for some reason says I have to wait for these procedures because my case is not serious enough?? I'm not saying there shouldn't be screening or people shouldn't be screened. There are outlets in certain states for free cancer screening..does everybody recieve it- of course not. That is wrong but the way the government works. There are programs in place for low income but I do agree there should be programs in place for middle income as well.I'm just not sure universal health care is the answer. There are ways to get around the medical governmental system- unfortunately not everyone has the knowledge because it it so hidden. Every American situation household is as different as the medical needs of people.
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@bcote212 (1112)
• United States
3 Mar 08
I am actually prettu suprised that this number is not higher. Nearly every wealthy country in the world has a universal healthcare plan, and it is about time that the United States does as well. And since this was posted under politics I also have to point out that Clinton wants universal health care for all American's while Obamas plan though very good, would still leave 15 million Americans without covereage.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
3 Mar 08
I have a feeling the real number is much higher, we just have no way of knowing for sure. Also, consider how many people die of "natural causes" that could have had heart conditions or high blood pressure, among many other health problems that could easily have been treated and controlled if they'd had insurance. I think that's a pathetic disgrace in a country like ours. I'm hoping that whoever our next President is and Congress will finally get together and come up with a plan that will cover everyone because anything less isn't good enough. Annie
@djmarion (4898)
• Philippines
3 Mar 08
insurance helps, it really helps but that's not the view of everybody especially the poor, or they may think that way but due to unfortunate circumstance they cannot afford the high value of getting an insurance. we know how hard it is to get and maintain health insurance due to high premium which ordinary people cannot afford for every member of their family. so in as much as they want to get security they fail to.
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@faye55 (5)
• United States
3 Mar 08
I think it is very sad that around 75% of countries in this world have universal health. I do not understand why we can not have the same. There are so many families in the US who do not have coverage of any kind. Some have jobs who do not offer insurance, or it is so high they can not afford it. Health care used to be a big issue during presidential campagnes, but has taken a back seat to other issues. We could all take care of ourselves, taking every measure through a healthy lifestyle, but that does not ensure we will not have medical problems down the road. I know of two states that do have a good program for school aged kids. They are covered until they are 18. It is very good insurance and very affordable. Alabama and Florida have this program, I do not know of any more. It is a shame these programs can not inlist coverage for parents as well. I was listening to the 'Today show' and they were having a segment about Americans having to move to Canada just to have health coverage.
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