When two protected groups converge, what does one do?

I cannot understand it either. I take things simply and often believe that they think animals and trees are more important than children.

So would I. Frankly I believe that people should be protected against discrimination because they are HUMAN not that they belong to a specific group.

I like what you said and who can say more? Being human is the beginning and the end of this discussion!

That is what I feel.

Just because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong either.

Just because it is legal does not make it right. It used to be legal in ancient Rome to throw Christians to the lions, slavery was legal in the Southern United States until near the end of the Civil War, in some places it is legal to cut off the hands of thieves.

I do not believe it is right to kill a baby in the womb or out, and I believe that homosexuality is learned, not inborn. So we have to be careful to bring out our boys to be men with all the responsibilities and also not to assume because a son loves the creative things, that he is going to be homosexual. I do believe that there are those who think they are because they love acting, writing, and art more than playing hockey, baseball, soccer, and extreme sports. My sons are straight, but my husband had a friend whose brother was homosexual and because of a fear that it was inherited *(this was in the 70s) that friend's brother killed himself and that friend also tried to kill himself, but he was suffering from depression and anything could have turned him to wanting to kill himself, even losing a job. As far as loving a child if he chose the homosexual path, I would not love him MORE than the other children in the family, which is what the nedia and tv drams show. God made everyone, and the races came about because of the tower of Babel, those who went to warmer climates who were light skinned were unable to survive, those who were dark skinned were able to survive because they were probably sleeping in caves or under trees and did not have shelter then. As for religion, as a Christian I know that it is God who will plant in the hearts of men and women, not me.

The early 1970's. I'm in the U.S.

The roomie even has a deepish voice. If she tried to look more feminine it might be different, but she'd rather be comfortable. I have seen her mistaken tho, even when she's dressed in more feminine clothes, and wearing a hat that is also obviously feminine too.

Has to shave her face? Poor woman! I have a hard enough time bothering to shave my legs... so... damn... lazy... When was abortion made legal in your country, by the way?

I was reading a cartoon where they had some pro abortionist talk to a class about the personhood fairy. That made as much sense. Well thank you for your response but I do think that people can hate a baby for its potential or lack of potential. That is why I am against abortion, if you believe that it is not a baby until it is born, when does it become one? So if a baby is born after three months of conception and survives, is it not yet a baby and can be killed? Is there a personhood fairy? The baby is human when it is conceived, not when it is three months, six months, seven, eight or nine months from conception.

I always thought that when someone hates something or someone, that it is the person who hates that is considered not based on who or what he hates. So if someone hates people who have six fingers in each hand, if a family has all six fingers on each hand, it does not matter if the unborn child does not know why she is hated, that person will wipe out that person or unborn based on his hatred. Consequently if you believe that that child once born will be one more mouth to feed you do not need, because you hate it, not whether at that moment, it is not ready for birth. So it is your hatred of the consequences if that child is born, not the process of its development in the womb.

I think if you kill a person, it does not matter if that person is black, comes from Mars, etc. it is still a hate crime. I think that legistration is unnecessary. I think many women abort because they are not given the choices, or there is no support, else there is support out there, but that information is not given to them. And I think that anyone who encourages a woman to have an abortion because they do not want to pay child support, think the woman will be a bad mother, or do not want to be saddled with a grand child, or think that the strangers that would adopt the baby should be charged with hate crimes, since they had no idea what the child would have been like. However when killing or beating up a person because he is homosexual is a hate crime, that it says that if there is a homosexual gene -which I believe there is not (it is more environmental - a girl who was abused by a male has an increased risk of being a lesbian - a boy who is smothered and abused more likely to be a homosexual unless someone helps them.) then the door is open for hate crimes being charged on abortionists who abort babies because they say the pre born has the homosexual gene. Yet it would allow abortions done for babies who do not have the so called homosexual gene. So therefore, it shows a reason to banish the hate crime law because all murders and abuses are done out of hate. Those who kill a homosexual whether before birth or after, get a stiffer sentence than the serial killer who kills women with red hair or the woman who runs her neigbor's child over with a car? Is that fair?

And we are all alive, and I would hate if one of those babies not allowed to live would have been someone who would have found a cure to many diseases now have. Every life is valuable and we have no right to take it, no matter if we fear that baby might be physically or mentally challenged, or turn out thinking he is a she or is of the wrong color because the woman slept with a man a different race than her husband and does not want him to know.

I feel sorry for those poor little babies who were never allowed to be born. I wonder what they would have been like and how many couples will go through their lives without a little one to love because someone thought that the baby they carried did not deserve to live.

If someone is married, happy in their marraige, and content with thier own life they have no reason to worry about what other people are doing with their lives I dont know many straight people who walk around discussing homosexuals. People who are comfortable in their own life dont feel the need to judge others. Normal peoples minds just dont flow in that direction. Really makes ya wonder, dosent it Cyn? P.S. Nice discussion Suspensful. Where have I seen this before? Oh yeah! www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1411030.aspx In fact, you responded to that discussion! Oh well. It did get 16 pages of responses. Monkey see, monkey do, eh? Good luck.

I know there is no 'gay' gene. But I read quite a few articles, that have since been disproved that some writers believe there is and there are quite a number who did not read the articles that came after that proved it is wrong. I think they only read the articles that confirm their beliefs and do not look on the ones that come afterwards.

I mean it would be horrible for to find out later that people were not born homosexuals and lesbians (after all I do feel happy sometimes and I am straight) and some woman killed her baby because they said he would be a homosexual. I also think that people should be protected because they are human, not because they prefer the same gender, believe differently, or have a different color.