Identity of Women

I agree with you whole heartedly. There are things because of my anatomy that I cannot and wouldn't do. I think it makes me a stronger woman for admitting this and living by it. Culture defines gender roles and identities in society and it is about time that we do accept that in some respects women are not stronger than men for the most part. We may be smarter, more beautiful and more respectful but physically most of us don't have the strength that they do. As always there are exceptions to every rule and these are the women that set out to "prove a point". Even so most of the time they fail and just make themselves look ridiculous and weak. I'd rather let a man do the physical stuff for me and save my intelligence which ultimately take me further than any weakness in physical strength or the need to prove that I'm just as strong as they are when really anatomically speaking, I'm not!

Yes, yes, and yes. I know exactly what you mean. I want recognition as an equal intellectual, philosophically, and spiritually, without "isms" and would like for people to understand that equal does not have to mean the same. Just because people are different does not mean one is necessary better or worse, just different.

That is a good thought. I am fortunate that I have been in relationships that allow that equality and standing. I am in work fields that actually favor women. So men actually need to be given the same standing as women in my fields.

The feminist movement did miss the boat and never did understood what "equality" was meant to be. It was only about giving a voice to women. It was never about women trying to compete against men. The feminist saw it as a challenge. They went out there... trying to prove that were as good or better than men at everything. As a result... they did upset a lot of men... and were slowed down by men in their progress. It became a real fight between men and women... and it is still going on. It is not about opinion either. We know that men are different from women. So of course... they are going to have a different opinion. So... who is going to decide who has the right opinion? All we can do is to respect everyones opinion. But there will always be a conflict of opinions between men and women because their values are different. And there is nothing we can do about that... except compromise on both sides.

We still apparently paid less than men in the work place, and in the third world less girls get sent to school than boys (though this is changing finally) so there's still a long way to go. I agree with your statement about not being a feminist too, I believe if a woman wants to do a job that is traditionally a mans job she should be allowed too and could do it equally as well, but we shouldn't do it just to make a point. We have come a long way and are basically equal to men now there are laws preventing discrimination against us we should be happy with that and just get on with it. I found the website for international womens day too, it's here if anyone is interested: http://www.internationalwomensday.com/

Hi SV Women have their own identity and no one can deny that. even we dont discuss women part in economical/politic life ( which is surly growing) but social life is not complete without her Do u think that soceity can grow with women No way its no only re-production of human race but its up bringing of kids setting value of socity womens are important in all aspects so both men and women are equally important and respect of each other bu both can result in harmonized society and i am not sure then human race can ever reach to that limit which is "identify of opinion"" take care

Hi Sandhya, If anybody ever asked me what I consider to be lucky about, I would definitely say that I am very very lucky to be born in a family which has given me quality education and respected my opinion (forget about the rebellious teenage years), to have a husband who thinks of me more as a friend than a wife and never imposes anything on me and above all, to have in-laws to whom there was little difference between their sons and me. So I have all along had my opinion respected so I cant really ‘feel’ the anguish of women whose spirits are being trodden by the men of their family everyday. But even then, I firmly believe that given equal opportunity, women outclass men in every department except physical strength (which is purely animal in nature and has no refinement).

I already feel like I hvae proved the point of what I can and cant do. and I can do most anything I put my mind too. I was always told AS I was girl I couldnt do certain things well right there that was a challange so I set out to do all I could and I did.

I do find it sad that our physiology will always outweigh what our true identity is. I have never been one for burning my bra, wanting to prove myself to men, I mean living with a man proves to me straight away women are far better at getting things done. But at the same time, after all the progression we have made, it annoys me that the view of women is still so shallow. We are losers if we are overweight. Women are always shown as a mans sidekick. Dumb seems to be the fashion now. I could go on!! I believe that a woman role has changed so much, but not always for the better. We fought for equal pay..never happened, we are still employed in the menial jobs and still have to do most of the work around the house and with the kids if we choose to have them. Personally, I feel women have a worse deal now than they did years ago. Also when I look at women around they world who are still oppressed, it does break my heart and makes me understand why we need an International Women's Day.

i always believe that we women have a true identity. it is accepted to some extent all over the world as I think. still i think in our country, all the women are not enlightened. they should be taken at the forefront by society.

Dear SV......Today you are educated and can raise this kind of question publicly in it self is a proof that women has already established her identity of opinion. Today in every field women are walking with shoulder to shoulder with men.....and this has happened because men realised and accepted that women were also intelligent and deserves such high position and respect. And you know what makes women superior to men, her ability to perform her duties excellently not only outdoors but in her personal and social life too. Lots of changes have come from sati system to single mother moving around respectfully in society today. I think I am quiet satisfied with the changes and I think it is better to work in cooperation with men ,than to compete with them.........have a nice day.

One must establish our identity to prove the true color,and there is no necessity attached to wait till the society approves a dogma. If at all the stigma of identifying by phisiology is to go, then desperately women, must fight for it.But how long will they fight, as it is going on and on for years. Every year the parliment session begins the 33% reservation bill for women is kept in the agenda, and at no point of time till this date the bill is being discussed and doesnot even carry the hope in it of getting passed in the near future. I am at no point denigrating the women, but only trying to explain the phenomenon prevailing in our country. So my advice is, if a thing is not obtainable by demand, then no harm in plucking it away, by force, as long as it is genuine. Take care SV.

I don't know about identity of opinion. I often say, I offend more women then men ever could. I wouldn't consider myself a feminist either but I am a far cry from a girlie girl too. Mainly I think that is because of my practicality rather than my opinion.

I think 'Feminists' have a lot to answer for! I think that they originally set out with the right idea that us women should be 'equal' to men, but instead turned it into a kind of 'anything men can do we can do better' affair. They also screamed 'sexist' and 'discrimination' when there wasn't any. Obviously men fought back and even now some feel that things were better when women kept in their place. What society really needs is for women to be valued, to be paid the same wage for the same job and not automatically expected to hold down a full time job and do everything else in the home without the male partners help. I think we are both two sides to a single coin and that it should be reflected in society as well as in a family relationship.

happy womans day

Yes I do agree with your discussion and also feel that ther is no need for this kind of celebrations once in a year when every body on this earth have the same kind of opinion towards woman.

I do not want to do everything a man does either but I would like to see women get paid at least as much as guys do when they do the same kind of thing. Women are at least as much worth as guys when they work the same hours so deserve to be paid accordingly.When I was younger I worked as a nurses aid and the orderlies were paid a third more than we were for doing practically the same kind of work. that is not fair.We should have the same value as men and should be paid the same way.

Women, just like men have their own identity. Women have talents and their own capabilities which they may contribute to their family and community.