For or against Home Schooling?
By CherBear04
@CherBear04 (483)
United States
March 10, 2008 2:19pm CST
Recently I came across an article by the HSLDA (which I had never heard of before) saying that people in California had made it illegal to home school your kids. I thought this was ridiculous as I am a supporter of home schooling - whatever the person's reasons may be. However, after reading it futher I realized they didn't completely ban home schooling, they only said that the persons wanting to home school must be certified teachers.
I would post the link but I can't copy and paste yet (how irritating) and it's a rather long link.
I personally do not think it is necessary to be a certified teacher, depending on the method they choose. As some forums of education are considered distance learning where the lessons are prepared by teachers and approved by the state boards. .
What do you think? Should people who home school be required to be certified teachers, have lesson plans approved by state boards, or just be able to teach their kids anything?
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21 responses
@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
10 Mar 08
Well, I think that homeschooling can be good. I think though that if you are going to homeschool your kids they should be socialized as much as possible with other kids. I think that parents that homeschool shouldn't have to be certified as teachers. I think they should have lesson plans to follow and as long as their child keeps a good grade average, they are fine.
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@CherBear04 (483)
• United States
10 Mar 08
I agree that home schoolers should be socialized as much as possible. Parents who keep their kids isolated are doing them a huge disfavor, they wouldn't be able to survive in the real world without proper socialization. It would be an overwhelming reality check when sent to college or anywhere else.
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@mlhuff12 (797)
• United States
11 Mar 08
I agree about the whole socializing thing. I've met a few home schooled kids and they all seemed awkward. Meaning that I don't think they were around kids or other people growing up...I work with a women who home schooled her children for a few years. Then sent them to a public school. And it seems like the oldest child has problems. She doesn't like being away from her mother and she is in sixth grade now. I think children should be able to be away from their parents and not be crying about it.
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@CherBear04 (483)
• United States
11 Mar 08
I think that may have just been the family that you met. As I have mentioned in other comments I was home schooled, my husband was home schooled and my siblings were home schooled. All of us are able to socialize just fine and we don't cry when we are away from our parents, the last time we cried when we were away from our parents was probably when we were 3 and they left us in the nursery at church, as soon as they'd walk away we'd stop crying, I think it was to make them feel better. Anyways, all of us were socialized home schoolers, being involved in groups, sports, girl scouts/ boy scouts etc. So people shouldn't make large generalizations based on one family they met.
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@magentavalentine (51)
• United States
11 Mar 08
Home schooling is not a bad idea, especially considering the garbage that they are teaching in public schools. Public schools really are not that interested in anything other than getting your child to pass the standardized state tests. I know that a parent with a high school education can teach their kids well. People should not have to have approved lesson plans, I think they should have some subjects they are required to teach like reading, math, and science.
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@superbren (856)
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11 Mar 08
I think you should be trained properly to teach a child.I don't really approve of home schooling except In special circumstances when a child cannot attend or has a problem with others.The children will not have the same discipline at home as they have at school.They won't be interacting with their peers which is good for them.I personally would not be cut out to homeschool my kids.They would run rings around me.
@superbren (856)
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5 Apr 08
You come across as very defensive about your home teaching but lets not dwell on it.Home should be where kids get away from rigid rules and bossiness.My children love to come home and relax totally.I do not expect them to be perfect or rigidly under control.They have good manners and they respect me for this.Kids have been going to school for hundreds of years.It is where they should be taught their education.
@kelleydian (175)
• United States
12 Mar 08
Parents are properly trained to teach their children. God gave them to us to raise not the government. I personally will not hand any child of mine over to the public school system. All three of my children have been home schooled their entire lives. They get plenty of intereaction with their peers as well as a variety of other ages. They do not run rings around me because I don't allow it. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "The children will not have the same discipline at home as they have at school." Because there is no discipline at school! Is this the teachers fault? No! It's the parent's fault for not raising their kids right. Parents need to stop expecting everyone else to raise their kids for them.
@CherBear04 (483)
• United States
11 Mar 08
Home school children are very well disciplined with their studies.
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@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
10 Mar 08
I have issues with parents that want to homeschool their children that don't actually teach them anything. They just let the kids learn what they want, when they want. So the kids aren't actually learning anything. If you are going to homeschool your children, the state board of education should actually approve what you are going to teach them and if they don't approve of it, you either change your plans or put them in school. There is no excuse for kids and young adults running around not knowing anything.
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@tinkerick (1257)
• United States
10 Mar 08
We had considered home schooling once. But only briefly. Mainly because I'd be the most qualified between us and I work full-time. But I think it should not be a requirement to be a certified teacher. As for lesson plans, I think there should be guidelines set as to what minimum levels a child should be at for each "grade" level. But there should not be a limitation as to how far they can go or how much they can be taught. Many home schoolers are far beyond their public school counterparts.
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@dlucks101 (79)
• United States
10 Mar 08
Every stat ehas different regulations on requirements for homeschooling. It wouldn't surprise me that Cali would do this. I think that in time it will be a big issue as costs of sending kids to public school keep rising. It seems most states require you to meet so many hours of course work and take tests and then turn those tests in to an agency or someone like that for recording.
I have been looking in to this and it is jst what I have found + I know many people in my area who homeschool because the public school around here is AWFUL.
My kids aren't school-age yet so I want to make an informed decision when the time comes.
This will be a political issue in the future so you may want to ask your representatives where they stand on the issue. Get ahead of the game now.
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@whywiki (6066)
• Canada
10 Mar 08
I think that kids need school. It teaches them how to get along in the real world. It teaches them a lot of camaraderie. It teaches kids how life is not always fare and that they are just one person out of hundreds and to really shine they must ex ell. I also think there are exceptions to the rule. I think kids that misbehave and are always disrupting the classrooms and causing nothing but trouble they can stay home and their parents can look after those kids. I also think if the kid is retarded in anyway and needs special attention, homeschooling is necessary. I don't think the parents should be certified teachers but should have to write some sort of test to prove they aren't dunderheaded idiots passing their stupidity to another generation. I think the kids should have to take the same tests as kids in real school and they should have to do the same work that kids in school do.
@whywiki (6066)
• Canada
11 Mar 08
I don't think an hour here and there with scouts and band is the same as spending 40 hours a week with people. I don't think all special needs kids should be home schooled either. I know they have special classes for them and all in school as I worked with them in school. I just think a lot of times parents keep them home from school and keep them sheltered from the real world and in the real world we have to deal with people for 40 hours a week that we don't always want to. It builds character and character is what a lot of people and kids lack ion this day and age.
@CherBear04 (483)
• United States
10 Mar 08
While your points are interesting, do you not think that by joining social activities, such as; girl scouts/boy scouts, band, sports, dance, etc would teach them that life isn't always fair and that they have to excel at what they do in order to shine? I was home schooled and had no problems with social interaction or learning that life wasn't fair.
Most home schoolers must take tests to prove that they are learning something in order for the parents to be able to keep home schooling them. Either that or a certified teacher has to come in and approve the material that is being taught.
Also, just because someone is special needs doesn't mean they have to be home schooled if the parents don't want them to - there are special needs education classes and in some cases it might be easier for the parents, if they have not had training, because the child wont be self-sufficient and will need extra special attention to learn the material.
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@moneyandgc (3428)
• United States
11 Mar 08
Homeschooling can be good or bad. It all depends on the parent's commitment. I don't necessarily think that the lesson plans should all be standardized, but I also don't think the parent should just teach "whatever they want" either. I don't think you need to be a licensed teacher to homeschool, there are lesson plans that can take you every step of the way; from kindgergarten all the way through high school. The parent needs to be devoted to doing the work too though.
I think that is where the fear lies. It is not about the parents, it is about making sure children get the proper education.
We are thinking about homeschooling our youngest. She is not even two yet so we still have some time to make that decision.
@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
11 Mar 08
First, I am not really for home schooling. I guess that I can see a few benefits like less distractions. But, I feel like school is very important as far as socialization. It is important that kids get to know other kids their age, younger and older and develop relationships with other kids that they can grow throughout the day by learning together in a group setting and play together during lunch. Kids tend to support one another as friends in school and, I just feel like home schooling doesn't provide that kind of atmosphere.
But, if a person choses to home school, then I think they should be certified. They don't necessarily have to follow a board certified curriculum as long as they follow basic conventional schooling guidelines. Then, whatever they chose beyond that is up to them.
@CherBear04 (483)
• United States
11 Mar 08
I think people get a completely wrong idea about home schooling and socialization. Just because they aren't in a classroom with other children all day long doesn't mean they don't get socialized. Most home schoolers have friends from different activities that they participate in and there are home school groups. As I have said in many other comments.
I guess I understand this due to being home schooled, and I have a hard time understanding why people can't comprehend home schoolers as having social interaction just because they do school work at home.
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@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
11 Mar 08
I can respect that! It isn't a part of my world so, I don't understand it. So, I can't really make any judgements about it since I haven't experienced it and don't know any kids who are home schooled. Perhaps, as long as the kids are in other groups, as opposed to only experiencing home life education, it can be a good thing. But, if there is someone who is homeschooling and not incorporating any outside socializing groups, I think that is doing a child a disservice.
@CherBear04 (483)
• United States
11 Mar 08
I agree completely. I think people who don't socialize their children are doing them a HUGE disservice.
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@hotlezq (7)
• Trinidad And Tobago
12 Mar 08
I don't have kidds but I know children & the ones home schooled lacked social skils bacause they were their parents only child or they were being bullied or there was alot of them & their parents just want to protect them for the world the same world that they have to enter as an adult & so there only interaction with people their one age is limited & watch people with limited social skills & they were 90% home schooled.With the world becoming so technological I think they need all the interaction they can get this is not the 40s 60s,
Teaching a child to cook & clean doesn't help him/her when they go looking for employment or to purchase a house or when they want to date, hidding behind the computer isn't help either, they need to ineract with others.
This is just my opinion
@superbren (856)
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5 Apr 08
I agree with both of you on this one.In the world we live in today i most certainly agree that our kids need to be out there assessing for themselves the dangers they will come up against when they are finally let loose in the big bad world.
@CherBear04 (483)
• United States
12 Mar 08
That may be the case in Trinidad, however in the U.S. it's quite different. Lacking social skills does not only come from people who are home schooled, it's just more focused on because it is what is expected. Teaching a child to cook and clean helps when they want to live on their own, there are so many public schooled children who didn't know how to wash dishes or do their own laundry. Purchasing a house has absolutely nothing to do with what type of schooling you had, nor does dating. Home schoolers date just like everyone else. They also don't "hide behind the computer", anyone no matter what type of education they have had can hide behind a computer.
An only child will lack skills that children who have siblings have, it has nothing to do with school.
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@hotlezq (7)
• Trinidad And Tobago
11 Mar 08
I believe it's the choice of parents but please bear in mind that the child will have to face the real world one day & school enviroments are the best place to learn how to deal with evertday life.
That said of course the person tutoring the child must have some expertise but I'm not sure if the goverment should be the one saying who's qualified or not.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
11 Mar 08
"the child will have to face the real world one day & school enviroments are the best place to learn how to deal with evertday life"
I disagree fully with that...the BEST place to learn about the real world is by living in it..My kids did NOT learn how to budget, cook, clean, be responsible, handle issues properly etc etc from school...they've learned it from me and from existing in the world..School doesnt teach children any of those things..Living and experiencing life does along with the parents/caregivers
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@kittenmc (464)
• United States
24 Jun 08
HSLDA is a group that works for homeschoolers. It's like lawyers for homeschoolers. They tried to pass a law here in MS where we homeschoolers would have to have our kids tested every year like public school kids. Thankfully with so many us moms sending our congress tons of emails, it was stopped in it's tracks. I think it's sad about Ca. No, I do not think people should have the right to tell people what they can or can not do with their kids. When I pulled my kids out of public school 4 years ago, the school system told me they didn't want kids like mine in school because they hurt their test scores. What they do not realize is that dyslexic kids, once taught the right way, those kids usually have very high IQ. My kids do. And since the public school system does not help home school kids, why should we abide by their rules or way of learning. All 3 of mine learn differently and I teach them according to their needs for they can be the best they can be. I do not think home school moms should have a teaching degree. Why? I learn with mine and I enjoy it. I think you should be able to teach your kids any way you want, because not all learn the same.
@Hunnnydew (29)
• United States
18 Jun 08
I am coming at this from a Christian perspective as a mom who homeschools her kids. That being said, I do not think it is necessary for the parent to be a certified teacher to educate their child. It wasn't that long ago that public school were created at all. Our forefathers were not publicly educated. We have come to see public education as the norm but it is certainly not necessary in order to become a productive member of society. Living in PA, we are one of the strictest states as far as homeschool regulation. I have to create a portfolio of samples to present to an evaluator and then submit this to the school district. We also must test in certain grades with a standardized test. Beyond reading, writing and math, I think we as parents should have the freedom to teach our children what we want. The question is, where do parental rights begin and end? My husband and I truly do not want the public school system teaching our children for biblical reasons, should we be forced to teach them what we do not believe in?
Thanks for letting me respond!
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
11 Mar 08
"Should people who home school be required to be certified teachers, have lesson plans approved by state boards, or just be able to teach their kids anything?"
ABSOLUTELY NOT!! I only have a PARTIAL grade 9 education and I homeschooled my children VERY SUCCESSFULLY for 2 yrs...I didnt follow the local boards curriculum and we actually had a very UNstructured schooling method (Unschooling is how we went) and it worked beautifully.....I dont think that a pc of paper qualifies a person to teach properly in all honesty..just look at some of the teachers employed by our schools!!
I dont need anyone telling me how, when, what etc I should be teaching my children...as long as they are learning and advancing then HOW I do it is MY business..
oh I was actually a member of the HSLDA in Canada when I homeschooled my kids..very handy to be a part of IMO...
@kingcrapper (1536)
• United States
11 Mar 08
As a certified teacher and having worked in the field for 12 years I can tell you I think home schooling can get a great experince for some kids. The problems lies where the parent/teacher is able to share the information nessessary has the follow through (home schooling is not an event to me but a lifestyle) and the social interaction with other kids.
If done right, home schooling can give a child the one-to-one experience a regular school can not Done incorrectly, and I have seen this, produces the dumbest breed on the block.
I am so tired of government making everything that is good illegal! How about making Mexican here illegally illegal!
Do you know anyone who home schools?
@gfdy123456 (9)
• China
11 Mar 08
I think home schooling is unnecessary.First,the child today are very pressed from school,especially in China.They have a lot of homework to do,and study take up all of their time except sleeping.Second,if all the parents employ a home teacher, so that school teacher is no longer needed in the future.So what about school? It will disappear! Maybe my wiew is limited,but I think it has some reason to some extent!
@idaantipolo (472)
• Philippines
11 Mar 08
I think that people who proposed this have some point to it, should a parent home school their kid, I think they should have updated knowledge of how should one teach kids. But maybe not to the extent that they should be required to be certified teachers.
@ZyraIdeas (19)
• Philippines
11 Mar 08
Wonderful of you that you brought this topic. Personally, i think it will be better to require a certified teacher, approved lesson plans for home school. It doesnt make any sense if they can just teach anything. There must be a body that would monitor the effectivity of the lessons and the teachers as well.
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11 Mar 08
I think there is ups and downs about home schooling. The ups is that you can protect your children from all of the crazy things that are happing today, and can teach them at there own past. Less worry about bad reports or beating up other kids. The down is that your children will some what kept to themselves, meaning that they won't be use to other kids or the outside world, and if they decide to go to college, then it will be harder for them to adjust.