declawed
By hallmarkjl
@hallmarkjl (500)
United States
March 18, 2008 10:28pm CST
How old or young should a cat be when they get declawed? Do you think it is right to declaw a cat? How old was your kitty? We got my cat declawed when she was about a year old. We didnt want to wait that long, but things just kept coming up and we didnt have the money to get her declawed for awhile. There were a few vets who wouldnt even touch her when she hit a year old, but some would. Thankfully. I remember taking her to the vet to get her declawed and picking her up from the vet. The poor thing had a heck of a time walking around for awhile. Do you think it is wrong to get a cat declawed?
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@theproperator (2429)
• United States
19 Mar 08
I don't agree with declawing cats. It is possible to train a cat so that the clawing is minimal. Besides, I think that, when you get a cat, you are accepting all the stuff that comes with it, cleaning litter boxes, fur on everything, and the occasional frayed curtain or armchair. After all, children make spills, messes and destroy stuff all the time, but no one ever suggests that we cut off their fingers...
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@jellyjam74 (205)
• Canada
19 Mar 08
i agree with you 100%. i think it is cruel to declaw a cat! i have 2 wonderful cats that i love dearly and would never think of doing anything so mean to them. i took the time instead to teach them to use their scratching posts and i keep their nails trimmed.
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@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
19 Mar 08
Yes, there are scratching posts and things like that. We use to have a cat post along with a HUGE cat thing where she could scratch, claw, bite, swat, climb, lay and everything. It was about the size of a a computer desk and had 2 areas for her to climb up and lay down on.
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@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
19 Mar 08
are your cats fixed? If so then I can argue that getting them fixed is wrong b/c you are taking something away from them as well.
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@elainablack (34)
• United States
20 Mar 08
The declawing of cats has long been a subject of much controversy. When it comes to individual cat owners and individual vets, everyone has an opinion as to whether it's beneficial and harmless, or cruel and pointless. Being the owner of both a delcawed cat and a cat with claws intact, I have my own mixed views. I have heard that many veterinarians no longer offer or will not perform the procedure, as it is becoming more and more frowned upon and even banned in some areas. If we're talking about whether it's cruel or not, I know that the cats don't feel any pain during the procedure, but are extremely sore and groggy afterwards. Naturally, they're little world is completely different and they have a lot of adjusting to do. On the other hand, I believe it is cruel to declaw an outdoor cat who only occasionally comes inside, as you've taken away his main source of self defense.
As cat owners, we have to take on the full responsibility of our pets. Declawing is really more of a convenience for us than of any real health benefit to the cats. It is our responsibility to train our pets, and it we are not up to the challenge, than we need not have pets. Training cats and dogs can be an exhausting, frustrating, and timely process, but it can be done with constant reinforcement, dicipline, and lots and lots of praise.
Dogs owners face similar indoor catastrophies with their dogs chewing, ripping, scratching and barking, but you don't see dog owners declawing their dogs or removing their teeth. You do hear of instances where dogs must be debarked, however, and sometimes it is due to neighborhood annoyance. I once had a neighbor, and everyone around him complained about his dog's barking, so everyone (except my family) signed a petition ordering the man to either get rid of his dog or have it debarked.
As far as health benefits surrounding declawing, it was beneficial for my cat, who had a genetic defect in both her front paws. On one paw she had six toes (one of which was deformed and the claw was stuck out and could not retract). On her other front paw she had seven toes (two of which could not retract). As a result, declawing her front paws was helpful for her happiness and overall health. Some cats have similar claw conditions or infections and so declawing is necessary, but it seems rather sad to take away one of the main aspects that makes a cat a cat, a carnivore....a predator :) No matter how small! As a result of her declawing, my cat has become more timid, and therefore she spends more time indoors and always comes in at night for safety reasons. I'm worried one of the stray neighborhood tom cats will beat her up if she has no way to really defend herself.
My other cat is indoor/outdoor and occasionally will scratch up the carpet. However, we have learned to live around this, rather than to declaw him or make him solely outdoor, and have trained him to where it's been months since we've seen him scratch. Silly as it sounds, I've found that water in a spray bottle works well as a training tool. I've used this method to teach my one cat not to scratch, and the other to stay off the counter tops. Some people advise putting something undesireable in the water, such as lemon juice or vinegar, but my cats hate water enough as it is (yet are surprisingly still good about taking their baths when they get into something sticky or smelly). If you do decide to use this method, be sure you clearly label the bottle, so you don't accidentally grab the clorox cleanup or 409 and spray them in the face. It sounds a bit mean, but I think it's nicer than taking their claws away.
I am no one to judge other pet owners. I believe everyone is entitled to their way of training or care of their pets, as long as they provide them will lots of love, a clean place to live and sleep, and fresh food and water daily. You can naturally do what you will with your cats and I will not think you mean or cruel. My only hope is that pet owners try to stay well informed on the proper care of their pets and thoroughly research any medical procedure before asking it to be done on their pet. Above all, talk to your vet, who is the greatest source of information for you and your furry children. If you don't feel comfortable with your vet, then by all means find a new one. You should feel as confident in your vet as you do with your own personal physician.
Best of luck to you and your pets! Hope you find the answers you're looking for.
@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
21 Mar 08
Acutally she still tries to bully our dog around. She will smack him in the face, but the risk of her cutting him isnt there anymore. When we got her she got anything a cat could ever want or need. So doesnt like to share anything, even us.
@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
21 Mar 08
I understand where you are coming from and I wish others would understand where I am coming from as well. I did not get the cat declawed just so she would not tear up the carpet. Heck, she never really tore the carpet up other than when she would walk around her nails would get stuck in it. we have some very odd carpet where its got lil loops and stuff in them. She would always get hung up in it. Thats how it could get scratched up, a few times she would actually dig at it, but other than that she'd use her post. The main reason we got her declawed *other than my father-in-law made us* was b/c of our dog. She would jump on his back and scratch the living crap outta him. I dont know how many times i've gotten after her about scratching his face and actually making it bleed. She about scratched his eye a few times and he cant see very well as it is. We are in the process of moving right now and she is at a friends house at the moment. Even with her front claws gone she still fights with the other indoor cats at our friends house. Their cats do not start it either. She will walk straight up to them and still try to smack the crap out of them. She wont allow them to use her litter box or theirs either. Not to mention not letting them eat their own food. She is a VERY agressive cat.
@elainablack (34)
• United States
21 Mar 08
Wow. That is interesting. Well I understand your decision to declaw her rather than ditch her, and for the safety and sanity of your poor dog. Since she is an indoor cat, she'll live without her claws alright. My kitty does just fine. Sure, it's awkward for them in the beginning, but they get used to it. Some cats really can be agressive, which is obviously why so many people hate cats. My male cat has THE deadliest claws ever, I would hate to get into a tangle with him. Like I said, everybody has their beliefs and reasons, and just because an owner decided to declaw their cats I don't go thinking their cruel or unresponsible. I just dislike the fact that some people get cats and automatically elect to have their claws removed simply for their convenience (kind of like picking out or declining extra components for your computer on the Dell website). Some people don't like the risk of claws, so they simply get rid of them. I think there are better ways to live a harmonious life with your pet without having to involve unnecessary surgeries.
I'm glad you were able to keep your kitty. How does she interact with your dog now that her claws are gone?
@Bev1986 (1425)
• United States
19 Mar 08
We usually get our cats declawed when they are small... but we ran into some financial problems when we got our last cat and never got around to getting it done. She has always clawed at stuff and has ruined a few items, but nothing major... but we got new carpet a few weeks ago and she is scratching it all up! So, we're thinking of having it done.... She's 7 now and I feel bad having her get it done now that she's older, but it will be so nice not to have to worry about her ripping things apart any more...
@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
19 Mar 08
she is 7 years old? wow...I didnt know a vet would do that to a cat that old. I know some vets I talked to wouldnt even touch my cat and she was only a year old.
@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
22 Mar 08
If I may say something. I dont know if i should remind you that in some countries people get their hands cut off for stealing. We did not do this to my cat to harm her, we did it to protect our dog and other animals. She is toally indoors and NEVER goes out.
@celticeagle (168112)
• Boise, Idaho
7 Jun 08
I would choose between the animals and give her to the pound before I would ever declaw the poor cat. My gosh, what is wrong with you people. Why have an animal if you can't think about it alittle bit. It is inhumane!
@enchantedleppard (1541)
• United States
21 Mar 08
I dont think its cruel to declaw a cat if you are keeping it and keeping it indoors for its life. We have 4 cats, they were all declaw, front claws only just in case they get out. We had them done when they were 3 months old, and each one was fine after a couple days. They still think they have their claws, they don't act any different than any other cats.. Its really up to the owner to decide if thats what is best for his or her pet.
@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
22 Mar 08
i had mine declawed because my cat is very agressive and will try to harm other animals. Which makes it hard for family and friends to bring their pets over so we can see them.
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
21 Mar 08
I had only one cat declawed. He was about 4 months old, the vet I went to stated that it was kinder to do it when they were younger so that they could adapt earlier. I have never done it to another cat. You can teach them to not claw furniture and other things. If the cat happens to get out then it has no protection from dogs, other cats or wild animals.
If the cat is clawing furniture, there is now claw covers that you glue on their claws so that they don't damage anything if the cat tries to sharpen their claws or mark their territory. It is far kinder than having the claws removed. Think about it, how would you like to go in and have the doctor cut your fingers open and remove your finger nails? Think about the pain afterward and then decide if it is really a kind thing to do.
@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
21 Mar 08
Very true, but in some contries you get your hands cut off for stealing. We did not get the cat declawed just b/c we felt like it. We did it b/c she was harming other animals. She is a fully indoor cat and never goes outside. She would try to hurt our dog and whatnot.
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@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
22 Mar 08
I am very sorry to hear about your dog. That was a sad story, but there are people out there that are like that.
@urbandekay (18278)
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7 Jun 08
A cat should be at least 100 before it is de-clawed
all the best urban
@Aurone (4755)
• United States
19 Mar 08
I think it is very wrong to declaw a cat. Its like cutting off the tips of your fingers. They never really get over it. It is very painful for them and I think inhumane. There are several alternatives to declawing such as training the cat, clipping the nails or applying plastic nail tips.
@hallmarkjl (500)
• United States
19 Mar 08
We did try training the cat and it worked pretty well. I clipped her nails and everything, but she still had a habit of tearing up the carpet. She really didnt mean to. But you could tell where she had been in the house b/c the carpet was getting torn up b/c of her nails. We were living w/ my father-in-law at the time and he said we either had to get her declawed or had to get rid of her. We love her dearly and i couldnt let her go.