Is the education system in your country adequate?
By daeckardt
@daeckardt (6237)
United States
March 21, 2008 10:54am CST
I was reading an essay that a student here wrote for another teacher. I found the topic interesting and would like to know what YOU think.
I would like you to treat this as if you were writing for a class. For those students trying for TEM-4 or 8 it should be 3 paragraphs and 200 words or 5 paragraphs and 400 words. If you are going for CET or some other standard, treat it as you would if you were taking a test for that standard. As always, if you want specific suggestions for everyone to see, let me know that it is ok. If you would rather have a private response, let me know that also. Have fun!!!
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5 responses
@jeanniemay (1798)
• Philippines
22 Mar 08
No, the standard of education and the system of education in my country is becoming inadequate. The good educators who have in them the heart and passion for teaching are leaving the country in search for a more challenging job and a greener pasture. Most of the educators now are seemingly focused on just earning for a leaving but not being passionate about really teaching and assuring that students learn at the end of the semester or school year.
Educational is essential to one's development. If we loose all the opportunity to grab the benefits it should give provide us, we have just wasted our time in school. I find that it is a must to have a good educational system or to attend to a good school where the standard of education is too high. It will not only be an advantage but an opportunity in the future.
My country may not be at par with the first world countries and I may not have the chance to experience education set in those countries but I have little resources to use. If I use the little that I have, I am not only putting my foot forward to gaining what first world countries are experiencing but I'm also winning myself a reward that I will soon reap in the future.
One good example is technology and the cyber world. Internet is one good resource that we can use to at least fill in the missing links and learn from people around the globe.
Should we just sit and pity our circumstances and unfortunate cases? I strongly believe, there is always a way to those who find and seek for themselves a treasure and a good fortune. We can still do something!
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[b]Daeckardt,
please make some evaluations. How do you find mine? Thanks! I am interested in learning more! [/b]
Smiles,
JNY
@jeanniemay (1798)
• Philippines
22 Mar 08
Wow! Thank you for showing me and correcting my mistakes.
That's admirable Debbie. Thanks again.
Hope to see you posting more and sharing your skills.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
22 Mar 08
First I will comment on you topic. I find it interesting that many teachers are leaving for better jobs. I think that the school system needs to seriously look into what is going on there. When it is impossible to keep good people, they have to look into ways of handling that (that's my HR side talking). I like your attitude when you talk about using what you have to get ahead.
As far as areas needing work:
you talk about educators being focused on earning a leaving do you mean a living?
I think you meant to say Education is essential...educational is an adjective and you need a noun.
I think you would need either give or provide, but not both.
you say putting my foot forward to gaining...it should be to gain.
This is great!!! I hope that you are able to succeed in all that you try!!!
@azahari33 (221)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 08
I've never thought that the education system in my country was adequate. Ever since I was in school, the mentality of the teachers have always been to just get us past the exams. We're too exam orientated. Some of the teachers would go a bit further than this and tell us that we don't need to know certain topics because they won't come out in the exams. We don't have enough programs to cultivte our creativity. And most schools don't have any kind of cultural programs.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
21 Mar 08
I can't tell from your picture where you are from. I find that here in China that is definitely true. I would be interested to see what suggestions you might make as far as how you might change things. I know you suggested programs that would help, but HOW would you make it happen? Thanks for the response.
@azahari33 (221)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 08
I'm from Malaysia. I can't really say for sure what programs to implement. I think the biggest problem here is that teachers are underpaid. Although they are government servants, they are paid well below other government servants. Example, in the news here today, they were talking about teachers who teach Form 6 (About A Level standard) are in the G56 to G42 level(G56 is the lower pay grade and G42 is the higher pay grade). We're talking about senior teachers here, those with over 15 years of experience. But If I was a fresh graduate and applying fro a job in the civil service, I'd be applying for at least a G44 pay grade. Teachers used to have a lot of allowances and fringe benefits and also more tax exemption, but most of that is gone now.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Wow, that is bad!!! I am experiencing similar problems with my current job, at least in my opinion. It seems like a lot of Asian countries are exam oriented and that is sad. It doesn't really get you ready for the job world. As far as how the government pays their teachers, that is what I am doing my term paper for my organizational behavior class on. I would love to compare notes on how teachers (both foreign and domestic) are paid in different countries so that I can prepare a good paper. Hopefully, we can make governments see that they will never have a strong educational system if the teachers are not well rewarded!!!
@mailovee (265)
• China
22 Mar 08
Actually I hate exams,it always makes feel nervous,but in China we cant avoid it. I'm about to graduate from college,so finally I can say goodbye to those exams.
We have been discussing our education system for a long time,like how Chinese kids get all the gold medals in all kinds of worldwide math competition,physics competition and so on but come out as a average person when they get to college or graduate from college.
I think we should weaken the importance of the exams, for they killed all the fun of learning,give the students more free choices to actually learn what they actually like,those kids get the gold medals maybe they dont not like math or physics at all,they are just very intuitive about these so teachers and parents push them to learn them just for the competition.
I think this is a very complex issue,one society might use hunderds of years to figure this out,to find a real suitable education system for their people.
It is funny Chinese kids have to show great respet for their teachers and must keep absolutely quiet and put their hands on their desks when they are having their classes ,while American kids can set in a circle and finish their classes like playing a game.
We emphasize discipline ,too much maybe.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
22 Mar 08
I have seen students not have a life at all because of the tests. One student I had been working with had to go to classes on Saturday and sometimes Sunday to take tests. I don't see how it was helping at all since most university graduates don't have any practical experience. I think the schools need to put more practical skills into use and spend a little less time on tests. Nothing wrong with seeing if anything was learned, but there should be more practice. Sometimes, playing a game will help loosen things up so kids are more receptive.
@laurika (4532)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I am from Slovakia and I think education in my country is very good. I am judging so positively because I see how many young people has a succes in forign countries. I like the fact that our universities are free so every student has a chance to apply and can show theirs skills. Getting to the University is not easy, but it is undertandable, since so many young people are hungry for new information. But any aducational system is not perfect and there are few things I would like to change. I would put more qualified teachers to the schools, specialy for teaching langauges so young people will really learn other languages, because they are so important today. Also I would not teach so much of grammar , but practise more conversation and build good vocabulary with students. Because knowing grammar , but didn't undertsand to another person is not much of help, when you go to the other country. Also there are many other subject where student have to memorize things and that is not difficult, but also not very affective since after few days, you don't remeber much of it. It would be better to teach more with practical experience then only learn things quick just to pass exam.
@laurika (4532)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Thank you, I just had problem with that memorization word, I am glad you used it and show me how to spell it. Yes, the universities are paid from other people taxes, but on the other site each of us has a oportunity to go to the university, so I don't think I will feel guily, if I am not doing good. I would not say the universities are overcrowded, because there are pretty hard test to pass, if you want to apply for univeristy. But of course some of them take you with any exams beofre and then they will eliminate students from one level to another. So you have to be really smart to finish it or study a lot. Thank you for great discussion.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
24 Mar 08
I find it interesting that the universities are free. I would be hesitant to go only because I am spending someone else's money and that wouldn't be fair for the taxpayers if you don't do well. (I am guessing that is how they pay for your education). I know it would be very competitive because everyone will want it. Are the schools overcrowded or are a lot of people rejected?
I agree with you on needed to learn more conversation and less grammar. You make a great point about not being able to understand another person if you know the grammar. I learned some Chinese and although the grammar made sense, it didn't help me be able to talk to the people around me.
Memorization doesn't really help you to learn anything. It will help you to pass the test and nothing more. It would be better to have practical tests where you show what you know!!! I read an article recently about how foreign employers in China have trouble finding qualified candidates from China even though their universities graduate over 6 million students. Most of them don't have practical knowledge according to the article (if you want to read it let me know and I will find the link) I don't say that to insult the Chinese students but to make a point. It is better to be able to do a skill than to pass a written test about the skill. There is a difference!!!
Your writing is very good as well. Keep up the good work!!!
@RangaF (81)
• Sri Lanka
24 Mar 08
I'm from Sri Lanka and our education system is very good for a developing country....
Here education is free ( no cost involved) in government(govt) school which was started in 1948 and still continues...
Govt is bearig the cost from primary school grade 1-5 & secondary level of 6-13. Thre is a entrance exam in grade 13 in islandwide which decide who is going to universities for higher education which also are free and only 10-15% of who pass the exam will enter the university ( for engineering, medicine, management, etc....)
The things I felt was lack in our system is,
1. You don't get exemption for the grades which means you need to finish all grades eventhough you are exceptionally good. Any student who are comming out from university will be 25yrs or more which is 1/3rd of our life.
2. Since all are managed by the govt, there are lack of resources for the people who are doing higher education
Other than that there is a private sector as well for the education who will support the population who can afford their cost ( which is very high for a average family in the country)
I'm a grdauate from the free education system so i'm proude of that.....
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Hi RangaF,
It sounds like you have a fairly good system. How does the government pay for the education? I agree that primary and secondary schools should be paid for by the government (they are in America in most cases--at least at public schools), but I'm not so sure about universities. I know a lot of people wouldn't be able to attend if they had to pay, but do they succeed? Is there a cost to the student if they drop out? Do you think there should be? How old are students when they start school? I know in America, you graduate from high school by 18 and if you start university right away, you can be out by 22. Well done on graduating!!!
Your writing is very good. Is English a major language in your area?
@RangaF (81)
• Sri Lanka
24 Mar 08
Thanks for the comment.....
We start school at the age of 5 and do University entrance exam we called it Advanced level exam at age of 18-19.
Probalbly we are entering at 20yrs of age due to slow administrative process in govt and pass out in 24 for 4 year degree or 23yds for 3year degree.... But this will be extend if universities delay their inteke due to intenal issues.....
Up to advanced level we study in our own language and now govt has started primary to advanced level in English medium but only people in urban developed areas are doing as they can get extra help from private tution.
But in universities all medicine, engineering and management are english medium and law accountancy and other areas can be studied in either local language or english.....
Since the best people are selected from the advanced level exam its unlikly to have people drop the course in the middle ........
For all medical graduate govt provide job at govt hospitals and both my sisters are now in the final year of the med university....