Why should American care what people in other countries think about our election
By gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
March 22, 2008 3:39pm CST
I am always reading here on MyLot what people in the rest of the world think about our Presidential candidates. My question is this what does it really matter what someone in lets say Norway thinks about who should be our President. I have never wrote a discussion on the Presidential election in lets say France. I do find it funny that people that hate the USA whould like to see Obama win, but that is just me. What do you think.
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
22 Mar 08
What happens here effects the rest of the world in one way or another. Why they want Obama, I have no clue, but seriously, why should we believe their media is any more honest to them than ours is to us?
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
23 Mar 08
I don't believe in parties.
I listened to all of them, and the only one who is making any sense and not being caught lying or doing dirty work is Ron Paul.
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@teison2 (5921)
• Norway
23 Mar 08
I have not heard about him. So far media here has focused on the primaries of the two main parties. maybe we will hear about him when the actual election is closer?
I think it is a bit sad that it seems like only a democrat or a republican party member seems to have a chance to be president in the US. It is also not good in my mind that it takes so much money to run and have a chance. I am sure that a lot of excellent people wants to run but never gets the chance.
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@teison2 (5921)
• Norway
22 Mar 08
being from Norway I feel I need to say something about this.
i would not give a rats a.. about your election if it were not for your countrys eagerness to play a role in everyones life over the entire world. Seeing that most US presidents take it upon themselves to decide who gets to run other countries, and has strong opinions about how other nations go about running their countries, invited or not, I feel that your elections has a strong inpact on my life. Mr Bush, for instance, I feel is a huge threath to me and my life. I think his way of dealing with foreign policy is extremely dangerous for many people around the globe.
I do not have much to say about the swiss elections or the polish elections as I do not feel it has that huge an inpact on me and my life.
It is not only when it comes to foreign policy your election has something to say for me. Also the way you manage your economy will have something to say for my economic situation. That is what taking the role of a world superpower does: other people are affected by your actions and therefor take an interest in what you do.
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@teison2 (5921)
• Norway
23 Mar 08
No. we have not asked for your help. YOU have asked us to help YOU in Irak and Afganistan. Irak did no invite you - nor did the rest of the world with a few exceptions. Get your facts straight. Your leaders even lied to try to trick the UN to support your invation.
When did we ask your help? It is a common thought among Americans that you somehow has made my world safe. We have been under different countries during the centuries. Have you ever freed us? I do not whine because you do not help or you make the world unsafe. I have tried to explain why we take an interest in who is elected to run your country. If you knew a little bit about other people, their cultures, religion and way of life you might understand this a bit better. It is not your job to make us all into small americans. We are quite happy to share the world and live in peace as norwegians, iraneans, chinese, swiss and anericans. Please let us.
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Wonderfully said, teison2. I agree completely. Other countries care because the US is a major presence in the world, and therefore things going on in the US DO have an effect on the rest of the world--sometimes subtly, sometimes overtly.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
26 Mar 08
teison, I agree with a lot of what you have said but not quite all of it.
You're absolutely right, we should expect the rest of the world to take an interest in our presidential election. It IS a byproduct of being a super power. You are also not alone in your feelings about Iraq and Afghanistan. A lot of Americans (Self included) would agree with you and we will be just as glad as you are to see the last of Georg W. Bush.
I part company with you on the bit about us not understanding your religions or cultures. We are a nation formed in isolation. We took in the people that the rest of the world for a variety of reasons did not want and we saw greatness in them. Everything that we have to know about them has been absorbed in our melting pot and that's what we have to understand . Furthermore, we came twice to the aid of Europe and fought in two World Wars. I've heard it argued that we waited a long time to jump in but the truth is our borders were not threatened and we didn't have to come at all.
We're certainly not perfect and we're not saying we are but we are free and we are about to elect a new leader. I understand your interest and welcome your imput but the choice is ours and we are pretty proud of that.
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@venshida (4836)
• United States
22 Mar 08
I agree with you. I don't think it's their concern who we elect for President. I donot know who is the President of most countries, and I donot care. I think some of those people are interested because the candidate they are interested in might have the same values and ideas as they have in their country so they want that candidate to win the elections. It could be they think there might be some financial benefit or security benefit for their country.
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@teison2 (5921)
• Norway
23 Mar 08
Yes it is a security question. And ofcource it is my concern who you elect. You have made it my concern. I would very much like it not to be. I do not want to be in the line of fire because your president meddles where he is not invited. If you want us to leave you and your politicians and politics alone - well: leave the rest of us alone. Run things however you like to at home, and leave the rest of us to decide for ourselves. Please. Mr Bush is a danger to the world. Your way is not the only way. Stop risking our peace and security and I will not care who you elect. As long as my American freinds are safe. I love them see - and I want what is best for my friends. So I hope a change will come after the election.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
22 Mar 08
Frankly, it is none of their business.
I don't care what some foreigner has to say about our elections because they do not have a vote, therefore they do not have a voice.
It is as simple as that.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
29 Mar 08
There is nothing closed minded about it in the least... it is reality.
Although we may be involved in the world's economy, we are NOT a member of a global government.
We are Americans, and as such it is Americans who elect our leaders....not some foreigner.
This is of no more concern to foreign citizens as who they choose for their leaders are to us.
It is my belief that people should look to their own internal issues and government problems while we tend to ours, because frankly, it is none of your business.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
22 Mar 08
I live in Canada and I love the United States. It is a wonderful country and I do not want to see Obama win. Up here, we have homosexual rights, gay=marriages, dislike of homosexuality is a hate crime (not just beating someone over the head with a baseball bat, but even quoting Romans 1,etc.) so if the time comes when Christians and other religions are persecuted for standing up for traditional marriages, it might be that the United States would be the only place where they could flee to.
So we want to see an America that protects traditional families and punishes people for the crimes, not for who they are committing offense against, just in case our Canadian government falls deeper into wrong and perversion.
That is why I am concerned.
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@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
25 Mar 08
Whose taxes do you think would go up if we had universal health care?
The reason our country is in the mess it's in is because we are too politically correct. We try to please everyone, all the time.
We are all selfish and unappreciative and we want to depend on the government to do everything for us. Relying on the Government for everything is the worst thing that could happen to us.
One day we might wake up covered in black being forced to worship Allah.
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@lightningd (1039)
• United States
24 Mar 08
So in your eyes then, you are anti-gay rights? So we're supposed to keep all the hate mongers here in the US? That's just messed up. I wish we had the open mindedness about this issue that the people of Canada had. I also wish we had some kind of uniform health care like Canada. I do realize it does have it's problems, but I think that could be fixed with some effort.
We have elected officials who bow to the wishes of the rich, not the needs of the poor. We have rich getting richer while middle class is slowly sinking into lower class because we can't afford the taxes and wars that our war monger president has put us into.
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@hypersoniq (34)
• United States
22 Mar 08
What I have noticed is that people who hate the USA do not hate it without reason. What the world should realize is that the politicians do NOT represent the average U.S. Citizen. Corporations do not represent us either.
It is important to know the world around you, who is in control of what countries. I don't know the president of Mexico, but was quite shocked to find out that he hands out pamphlets to the people there on how to best sneak over the Mexico/U.S.A. border. In the Dominican Republic, they have a billboard telling their citizens to come and live the good life in Reading,Pennsylvania (I live 35 miles from there) I feel stupid for NOT knowing who runs the Dominican Republic. They just had a riot at reading high school on a dominican holiday involving 1,500 immigrant students.
There is a list floating around that has several HUNDRED THOUSAND U.S. companies that put American workers out of work in favor of cheaper and unregulated foreign labor... Know who the real enemy is... I don't hate everyone from india because U.S. corporations destroyed our domestic Information Technology job market in favor of those Bangalore "campus" I.T. workplaces... I hate the U.S. companies responsible AND the idiot politicians who enable them.
China got alot of our jobs, but NONE of our safety procedures, I feel BAD for the citizens of china forced to work in dangerous jobs with NO safety equipment.
I am from the U.S.A., worked my whole life to barely scrape by on the bills generated by living in the land of the "free"... I am voting for Obama for sure. Most foreign countries would not HATE the U.S.A. if they were not involving themselves in everybody else's affairs so a few rich idiots could make even more money. I think Obama might be the catalyst for change that is badly needed here.
@jlcastings (33)
• China
28 Mar 08
Thank you for your commnents. I personally like your opinions very much ,especially about the current working conditions of Chinese workers and let others be as long as they prefer to be. I am pleased to see that you care about your own country as well as other countries in the world.
@lightningd (1039)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Once again, people fail to research stuff on their own. Obama does in fact place his hand over his heart during the national anthem.
Ignorance is bliss or so they say. People hate change. The majority of the powers in washington are afraid of change because they know that it will mean the end to their supporting big business and filling their coffers as well as their own pockets.
I understand completely why so many other nations citizens have taken an interest in who will be our next president. He is the person who represents us to the other people of the world. Currently we have a war monger and controll freak, as well as a greedy oil barron president. He is also not the brightest bulb in the box. He is not capable of writing his own speeches and his speech writers have nortoriously prepared speeches for him that he clearly does not understand. Thus the reason for his all too frequent "Deer in the Headlights" look he gives when asked a direct question. With him as our president, he has instilled fear that we are a society of unintelligent, money hungry, power hungry, controll freaks. Bush thinks he is a god.
We are supposed to be a model among countries. We would like to share our democracy with other nations. Unfortunately, Bush seems to think we should force it upon them. That isn't how it works. I think if you want change, you have to take action to affect change. If other countries like the way their lives are, then we should leave them be.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
23 Mar 08
I have a gut feeling that you started this discussion knowing all the answers to it and pretty well knowing that it is a good discussion too.
Well since the day the dollar has become an international standard it has become the care of many nations to care of the presidents and their policies to change into Euro or whatever.
Since America started acting as the policeman of the world it has become necessary to care about the next American president and his whims and fancies.
Since America has started poking it's nose in another countries internal affairs and started invading them at the guise of some thing that they are unable to prove it has become the concern of the people of other nations to worry about the next presidents mental make up.
Otherwise there is no need for the people of the other nations to care the least about who or what is going to become the president of America.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
26 Mar 08
The person we put in the White House every four years has a profound effect on lives around the world and I would expect people from other nations to have some interest. We are electing the most powerful leader on earth. the sad part is that usually only 55% or less of the elegible US population bothers to go to the polls. Hopefully, with the amount of interest generated by the Democratic primaries, we'll be able to greatly up that statistic.
I haven't noticed the way world opinion is going on this election (other than that they are glad to see Bush go) but I haven't really been looking for it. I live in Pennsylvania and I'm pretty focused on our April primary right now.
One thing I've found though, is that ongoing BBC coverage of the US election and primaries is the best. If you ever want to know what states are read or blue and how many electoral votes they each have, go too BBCnews.com. It's the best!
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
31 Mar 08
Actually, I took those statistics from the internet but to tell the truth, I'm pretty certain I've also seen lower percentages. In some countries, if you don't vote for a prolonged period, ou actually lose the right to vote. We certainly take a lot for granted.
@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
29 Mar 08
i wish it was 55% of the voters voted..its more like 35% of the elegilbe voters vote for the presidential election..so 65% don't vote..and in a local election between presidential elections maybe you get 14% of the voters vote...and if it rains the Democrats tend not to vote but the Republicans vote no matter what the weather is...I worked 30 years for Ford as a UAW employee and the we used to get a day off with pay on election day and people still did not vote..makes you wonder..but I think only about a third of the elegible voters vote...correct me if I am wrong...that is sad...its like the weather..everyone complains about it but nobody wants to do anything about it...
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@siddharthlife (462)
• India
23 Mar 08
Well there are good reasons for people in general to bother about America - they fear their own lives! Anyone seen the documentary Zeitgeist? I think it is so damn convincing that the WTC was not destroyed by incoming planes as was said! It was just an excuse to cover up - the real motive was obviously world domination in the name of anti terrorism. See the case of Iraq. It is 100% evident that oil was the only reason to invade Iraq; every other reason is just nonsense. I think there are reasons the whole world needs to take note of the activities in America.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Don't we like to call ourselves the world's only "Super Power"? If that's what we are then of course the rest of the world is going to care who our leader is going to be and since we are part of the world, we should at least respect that. I for one hope people from around the world don't judge all of us by our current leadership because we're really not all arrogant and spiteful. We really don't all think we have the right to tell others how to live their lives or who should run their countries or how they should be run. I also realize what happens with our foreign policy has a huge bearing on other nations, even those not directly involved. The same goes with our economy - as our economy goes so goes much of the world, unfortunately. Personally, I like to hear from our members from other countries in discussion on the U.S. election. You're certainly all welcome in my discussions on the topic!
Annie
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@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
29 Mar 08
i have relatives in Germany who congratulated me when the Democrats won the last election as they expected a big change for the better but I told them that George W. Bush still had the veto power..but i guess they did not understand at the time that nothing was going to change even though the Democrats won so many elections...I have been to Europe and I know that in Germany and Holland the talk was not very good for Americans..in short they told me "soon the American's will not be able to afford to come to Europe as the dollar would going to go down..and that was two years ago. Well, the buying power around the world went down and the price of gas is not helping anyone except OPEC and the gas companies show record profits..i never could figure that one out...but when I seen people who work for Ford, GM or Chryslers not supporting there own industries I knew we were going to have a bumpy ride...and Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in the country..most houses will take at least a $30,000 loss..tomorrow some people want to see my house as I dropped the price about that amount and I told my wife just sell the house for a loss as the taxes are going up and we don't need this three bedroom home for the two of us...I am on a pension and social security..but who knows how long that will hold up? so yes, the world community is concerned as when the US gets a cold then the rest of the world will get pneumonia..(an old saying_(
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@heathcliff (1415)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Like it or not, we now live in a world that is not just "smaller" in the travel and transportation sense, but interconnected in ways we cannot always predict. Regardless of where we live, major ploitical figures should be of interest to people who do international business and, vicariously, anyone who depends on those people. The President of the United States is believed to affect foreign trade policies to such an extent that, even ignoring America's "older, wiser brother" attitude in politics, the election is of supreme importance to knowledgable individuals all over the world.
If you ask me, which you did, the best way to view the situation is to be honored so much of the world is so interested.
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@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Most Americans don't really understand the working of our government.
Watch Jay Leno and see him ask questions any school child of the fifth grade should know but the average person in and out of this country does not have a clue who really runs this country..big business..if big business is losing factories and jobs go over seas..or the union has to give in all the pay and benefits concessions..then
Big Business seems to be winning as they are bringing in record proftits.
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@asawako48162 (3321)
• United States
25 Mar 08
The beginning of the Forth Riech will arrise from the ashes of the vanquished third reich..its only a matterof time and waiting for the people to see who really will offert them a true utopia
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
23 Mar 08
It's not just you, I too wonder that. But I guess it has to do with global information. Why do we care so much (often more than we care about this country) what is done in other countries? I'd say it is only caring as far as it effects USA. What one country does can often effect something we do with that country or something that country can do detramental to us. How will what other countries do, effect us is more a way to look at it. Don't really care how it effects them, but we need to know how it will effect USA.
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@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
23 Mar 08
I don't know much about the U.S candidates and you probably know more. I have also have comments about this but not on a certain candidate, just a peaceful one.
Since the actions of United States is effecting whole world, (especially my country) I think I have a right to mention my opinion to the other people who would like to read (or hear) that. Anyway, the ones who wouldn't like to hear can simply ignore.
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@academic2 (7000)
• Uganda
26 Mar 08
We all know that when America sneezes, every human being on planet earth catches a cold-look at the current fall of the value of the dollar and the general economic distress in America, in my own country Uganda, the business men are unsettled and prices are erratic-that is why good leadership in America is Good for us all! We want a less adventurous leader in America, the one that will pull the marines home and leave the Iraqis to sort out their own country in their style, the one who will not prop dictators in Africa, the one who will not be showing double standards in big political decisions, the kinds we see being taken against Zimbabwe, yet dictators such as Menez Zinawe and Muzeveni are being eulogized by Bush- we want a good leader in America-we even wish we had voting power to decide who rules America!!
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@rinaaus (1201)
• Australia
23 Mar 08
I have no comments about this, but i do really enjoy of reading your discussion and all responses here. Very interesting thinking from everyone. I'm not U.S and I do not live in U.S, but I watch news everyday and they all talk about U.S election. I have not seen any speech from any candidates but if I were U.S I will vote for Obama because he is the only want I can the honest from his talks.
@kimian55 (132)
• Alamogordo, New York
29 Mar 08
I'll tell you why cause you mdf have so much import and export around the world that it affects everyone for example..you get rubber from china and the next administration does not want to get the rubber from china he wants it else where. Another wars: You mdf don't mind your own bussines you go to places like Iraq or North Korea then sell your weapons or say some dumb things like "America will help" what if the next president does not want to help or give aid to poor countries. You understand now..? hope you do=)
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
29 Mar 08
Actually it be none of your business.... especially with the problems you have in your own country.
I think you should clean up your own act before you start pointing fingers at anyone else.
MDF to you ... you understand me now? ...I know you do you SPOS.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Mar 08
I think America should care more about what its citizens think about our elections rather than worry about what other countries think. we are the people who elect these idiots into office and we should darn well at least pick the least obnoxious of the litter to run our government. granted we do not have a very promising bunch of candidates to pick from.
@jezzikabret (245)
• United States
22 Mar 08
I think our politicians do tend to stick their noses where it doesnt belong. It's sad people hate the USA. Our politicians generally do not represent the everyday american. I can not say its wrong for others to care about our elections. We care about the elections in Iraq and voice opinions about it. Why?...because we feel it affects us. I do think people should be less hateful towards americans as a whole...we are not all money hungry fools.