What's your definition of sanity?
By Aussies2007
@Aussies2007 (5336)
Australia
March 25, 2008 12:26am CST
Sanity is very much define by our laws...
If you brake the law repeatedly... you are considered insane.
If you are considering suicide... you are considered insane.
Once the law determine that you are insane... they will tie you up... lock you up... and drug you to turn you into a vegetable.
But who decides what is sane and what is not? Who is sane enough to determine what is sane?
Do we use the law of the bible to decide who is sane or who is not?
Or do we use the artificial laws from the people to decide?
Do you realise that if you challenge your government and embarrass its institution... it can land you in a mental institution.
Am I insane for asking this question?
Who wrote the book on sanity?
Is sanity just another artificial idea?
Can you define sanity?
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4 responses
@LouRhi (1502)
• Australia
25 Mar 08
According to the Australia Oxford Dictionary sanity 1 a,the state of being sane. b, mental health 2 the tendency to avoid extreme views 3 sound judgment
I think that to a certain extent sanity is an artificial ideal. It is subjective and open to so much interpretation.
For example some people may claim I am insane because I believe in fairies, however there are others to whom this is perfectly normal.
To me the dictionary's definitions makes a lot of sense and fits very well within all of society.
As for your sanity I can make no judgment for I know nothing of you. I do not agree that every government will lock you away for challenging it. I feel rather safe in the fact that my country would not do this.
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
25 Mar 08
I do not agree that every government will lock you away for challenging it. I feel rather safe in the fact that my country would not do this.
Are you sure about this?
Let me give you a very simple example...
You are a very good driver... you are sober and fully awake. You are driving on a deserted Highway in the Northern Territory... very safely... and a speed camera catch you doing 120km/h.
You refuse to pay the fine... and you go to court. You argue that you were driving very safely and you have been driving a 120km/h all your life. Just because the law reduced the speed limit to 100km/h 12 months ago... has not changed your ability to drive at 120km/h.
The magistrate tells you that the law is the law. If you don't pay... you will lose your licence until you do pay. Furthermore... you won't be able to renew your car registration... as the RTA won't do any dealing with you until you pay.
You stick to your principles... don't pay... and start driving without a licence. You get caught driving without a licence... and you are back in court. Now they are taking your licence away... even if you pay the previous fine.
You get caught a second time driving without a licence... and the magistrate sentence you to three months jail. You tell the magistrate "You're a pr..k and I don't accept your law"... then you kick the arresting officer in the balls.
You are now taken for a psychiatric assessment. It only requires the signature of two doctors to declare you insane. The doctor gives you a choice... "Sit on your principles and accept that you are wrong... or be declared insane."
Either way... you are now going to be lock up. Either in a jail or a mental institution. Because the government has to enforce its laws by any means to maintain some form of order... otherwise you have anarchy.
But at the end of the day... the law is design to drive you insane if you refuse to obey it... in more ways than one.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
30 Apr 08
You make a good point here, Aussie. It's almost like they have something set up which defies common sense, and then they just keep pressing onward with more consequences or punishments in order to 'make an example' so other people will just lie down to slaughter.
A less serious example - how to get suspended for 5 days simply for being late. If you're tardy to class more than 3 times, you get after school detention. If you miss the detention, you get Saturday school. If you skip that, you get suspended. In essence, the school is telling you that if you're late, you get suspended. To me this makes the problem worse. Of course they don't want students being late, but you know what, I'd rather that a student is late rather than punished severely and then caused to MISS SCHOOL in the end. Seems like the education system trying so hard to prevent lateness is instead causing missed days of school.
I agree with you too about the 120km or whatever. Just because something is reduced does not mean that you suddenly become unsafe to drive at that speed. Just because somebody else is an idiot and becomes a stain on the highway doesn't mean I should have to conform to all the rules that crop up because mr x was stupid. LOL! I have a very hard time with one size fits all, because if you have to use the lowest common denominator as a rule, things are way too dumbed down for the rest of us.
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@kbourgerie (8780)
• United States
25 Mar 08
Modern psychology does not make an attempt to define sanity. Legal and mental institutions have plenty of criteria and guidelines to determine insanity, but nothing to mark a person as sane. There are thousands of ways to tell if a person is insane, i.e., depression, psychosis, but nothing to use as a "ruler" of sanity. I think sanity is only a marked absence of insanity.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
30 Mar 08
Thought provoking...but isn't "insanity" one of those intangibles...like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder. What I deem "insane" may NOT be your parameters! Cheers.
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@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
4 May 08
Can anyone really define sanity...I think not. In my view it is right up there with trying to define what 'normal' is. Having said that the training and experience David and I have within the work we do has given us countless opportunities to work with people form all walks of life in a variety of lifestyles and careers...and there have been some unusual dynamics for sure.
David and I chatted briefly after I read him your post. His observations on the 'definers' of sanity is that they are always changing and have lot to do with where society is and what their definitions are at any given time. Also sanity has to do with being cognizant of things and being able to function with a modicum of balance, responsibility, competency, lucidity and stability. In my view causing harm to none feel more 'sane' than those who are completely out of touch with how their words and actions are affecting others. Insanity has been defined as knowing better...and doing it anyway.
I do not think anyone has written the book on sanity because everyone works on varying degrees of awareness according to their beliefs, race, culture, religion, politics, family and socio-economic upbringing and more. With so many variances within the human experience I have never met anyone (lay person or highly educated) who has ever been able to claim that they have the total answer on what is sane/insane/normal/abnormal. They can define it when on the extreme end of the bell curve...but there is a lot in the middle that is, from my perspective...subjective and a matter of opinion. Good 'thinker' discussion...thanks for posting it!
Raia
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@freethinkingagent (2501)
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19 Apr 08
This is a great discussion becouse there can never be a true answer. If is couse for frear that the government can arbitraly conciderr you insain for what ever law they pass. I see the day coming with anti-christian sentament that they will say anybody who beleives jesus existed and is coming again is insane.
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