BAIPA and Obama; what is your view?

I agree with you totally,the pro-lifers are entitled to their opinions of course,but they don't seem to care about the lives of children once outside the womb,in fact they then seem to turn on the mother and accuse her of being irresponsible and a scurge on society.

I am not talking about premature babies; I am talking about fetuses born alive because the mother decides she wants an abortion 5 months into the pregnancy. To induce the birth of a baby before term and let it die on a shelf is disgusting to me.

Obama was an Illinois State Senator in 2002 and clearly was against BAIPA. Perhaps you need to recheck your facts, lisan23. Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted. BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery. The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002. But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left. I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member. Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed. In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics. (As chair of that same committee, Obama once abruptly ended a hearing early, right before Scott and Janet Willis, the parents of six children killed as a result of Illinois' drivers licenses for bribes scandal, were to testify in favor of Choose Life license plate legislation. I was there for that one, too. The Willises had traveled three hours. Reporters filled the room. Obama stalled. He later killed the bill when no one was around.)

You're still wrong. He did not vote no to BAIPA because he wasn't in the US Senate. Partial birth abortions account for less than 2% of abortions - and it is typically done in situations where there is serious risk. Obama TRUSTS that the women who are making the decision to get this procedure done know that they are doing. Most women who do have this done aren't doing so lightly - which is why it is such an uncommon medical procedure. Go find a LEGITIMATE source that is unbiased and read it. Until then everything you say on here falls under the influence of your own religious beliefs. The reality is you have absolutely no right to tell another woman what to do. Ever. Unless you want someone telling you what to do with your life, your kids, and your pregnancies.

I think murder is a very strong word. I don't see abortion as so black and white and heaven and hell as many do. Its a very gray issue and I think God realizes that as well. I see people trapped in that situation, many times very young and taken advantage of by someone else, as more of a victim than a murderer. Every situation is different but in many cases I have seen its not so black and white as you make it sound.