Another Obama Lie!

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
March 27, 2008 4:05pm CST
Barack Obama Lied Again! He could't even be original with his lie. He just rehashed a tired liberal lie that he figured fit at the moment. He called the latest stimulus package "another tax break for the wealthiest Americans." The lying sack of scum knows full well that the wealthiest (and most of the only kind of wealthy) aren't getting any money at all here. Shame on Obama for being such a scummy liar! Is this the "hope" and "change" he was talking about? Personally, I see "same old, same old".
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Yeah, and on top of that I saw this morning where he was calling for another stimulus package on top of the one no one has got yet. This would mean more money being borrowed from foreign investor to pay for it. What do you expect from a lawyer... they may know the law but they sure don't understand economics.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
27 Mar 08
MY, my, my, I wonder if he will call HIS economic stimulis package another tax break for the rich?
• United States
27 Mar 08
Absolutely not, because he as a democrat would ever do such a thing....
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@zoewiles (44)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Your not the only one outraged by yet another lie coming from the hole in his face... it's ridiculous.. as you see it... it is the same old same old... you cant teach an old dog new tricks...
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 08
And in Obama's case, you can't teach a young dog new tricks either. When the chips are down, they'll revert back to the old tried and true tricks every time.
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• Belgium
28 Mar 08
Wow, you know something that comes in extreme handy when coming to debates? Evidence. Sources. I'll admit, I'll admit.. I haven't been following Obama's speeches but I've seen enough of what he's said to fully support him. I've also browsed his sites and many other sites to see what his plans were. He seems the wisest of the candidates. So, I can't just snap into this argument if I don't even know what you're saying is true.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
28 Mar 08
Do you alway give evidence or sources. Oh you do not, so why should ParaTed. Anyway your opinion really does not matter because you are from Belgium, that little country that the USA saved from Germany twice.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 08
HawaiiGopher. This one I heard on the radio, can't link to that. I'm not telling you whether to support him or not. As you said, you've read up on the candidates, Obama is the one you think will do the best job. That's your right. All I'm doing is pointing out yet another of his lies. Of course, you'd be able to find just as many from the other candidates if you look for them too.... so...
• Belgium
28 Mar 08
Wow, gewcew. Way to go. Really going off topic there. You can go create a new topic if you want to argue about the world wars. To me, the whole "we saved you guys" thing is an ultra-patriotic behavior and it does have its flaws. However, I won't go into details here. As for sources, I always try to give my sources to give my debates credibility. ParaTed, I respect the fact you don't necessarily support Obama. Nonetheless, evidence might have been useful. What radio show was this on? Seems a lot of people are replying to you yet have no idea where you heard it. :P
@jormins (1223)
• United States
29 Mar 08
I've checked out Beck's website pretty thoroughly and nothing about Obama and the Stimulus Package and that comment. Is the above poster correct with that link? I believe Obama was referring to the Bush Tax Cuts if so.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Mar 08
The quote was played on his radio show. Sorry there is more to the world than what can be linked on the internet.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Mar 08
If it was about the Bush Tax cuts, it would still be a lie that they were just "For the rich", but that's a lie a lot of people tell so I wouldn't single him out here. The thing is, if it was about the Bush tax cuts, he wouldn't have said "another tax cut for the rich", since back then, it wasn't "another".
@jormins (1223)
• United States
29 Mar 08
True but he has a pretty comprehensive website. I don't usually care so much but you are calling Obama a liar bout something I have never heard Obama even speak close to of. My guess is this is all about the Bush Tax Cuts and not the stimulus package. I guess its lost on the airwaves forever and we'll never know.
@Guardian208 (1095)
• United States
28 Mar 08
Here is a link to his speech. This is from his own website. The comment is in the 17th paragraph. www.barackobama.com/2008/03/27/in_major_speech_obama_calls_fo.php And speaking of liberal lies, how about that whopper Hilary told about being under fire as she was visiting our troops in Bosnia as First Lady? Then she said she mis-spoke. Come on. I can mis-speak and get a fact wrong, but to say that she had to run to the terminal while under sniper fire? That's not mis-speaking. Particularly when she said it on 3 separate occassions! www.nypost.com/seven/03262008/news/nationalnews/now_bunko_hill_is_under_fire_103582.htm
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Mar 08
Thank for the Yawn Jormins.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
29 Mar 08
The policies of the Bush Administration threw the economy further out of balance. Tax cuts without end for the wealthiest Americans. A trillion dollar war in Iraq that didn't need to be fought, paid for with deficit spending and borrowing from foreign creditors like China. A complete disdain for pay-as-you-go budgeting - coupled with a generally scornful attitude towards oversight and enforcement - allowed far too many to put short-term gain ahead of long term consequences. The American economy was bound to suffer a painful correction, and policymakers found themselves with fewer resources to deal with the consequences. Is this the paragragh you are referring to? I couldn't find anything about the Stimulis Package. I believe he is referring to the Bush Tax Cuts. I am with you on Hill. Its pretty sad when Sinbad is calling you out. I still don't get how misstatement can still apply after the 4th time. Its a "fish tale" if not an outright lie.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
29 Mar 08
So I'm assuming that cryptic answer is a yes? That paragragh is what Beck was referring to? Because there's nothing mentioned about the Stim. package there...
28 Mar 08
Where and when did Mr. Obama say such a thing. Could you please provide a link to the full speech?
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
28 Mar 08
So I guess that whenever you decide to write a discussion you plan on giving the link to the full speech, or proof to back up what you are writing about.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 08
I heard it on the radio, while I do know how to create a radio button on a post, I have no idea how to create a radio link. ;~D
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• Belgium
28 Mar 08
I'm sure you could give us the [name of the radio station? :P Gewcew, that's actually what most people do when they're the ones setting up the debate. They back up what they say with proof. What form of proof? Sites, books, articles, etc..
@icyorchid (2564)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I don't like him and I pray to GOD he isn't elected!!! I found out he is going to tax small businesses 60% of their income and that he wants to give everyone affordable health care like in Europe. You pay for it out of your FEDERAL TAXES!!! Now is this really someone we want to run our country??????????? I SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 08
Yup, he's just another "we can tax our society into prosperity" fool.
• Belgium
28 Mar 08
Yes, taxation is definitely not the solution, a nice ol' debt will do the trick.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Another lie by Obama is an understatment. It almost looks like Obama, and Hillary are in a race to see who's nose can get the longest. The problem is that they think that they are telling the truth. It is scare when you start believing your own lies. Class warfare, plain and simple, it is the Liberals number one, two, and three weapon in their playbook. Obama is hope, Obama is the future, Obama is change, did you not know. He says it enough, he must be. Of course his hope, change, and future is a little different than mine.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
28 Mar 08
The notice we just received says you may qualify for the money, but this doesn't mean you will get the money. You must file taxes and we all know everyone isn't going to file. Some people will ask for an extension and think that means no money. Also you must not make to much money, as higher income earnings get a lesser amount or nothing if your one of the highest earners. My daughter didn't earn $3000 and the notice said you must have earned at least that amount. Many college students will get nothing who really need it. College comes first for her.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 08
Oh no! You mean people actually have to get off their butts and do some paper work to get it? You mean this giveaway isn't going to everyone? Say it isn't so! No one "needs" a handout from a government that is borrowing the money from China in the first place. This money was never meant to fill the "needs" of individuals, it was meant to try to put a little more money into the economy. Don't be like the Congressional Democrats and make it something it was never meant to be.
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@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I know you need to file a tax form. My comment is I think people will think filing an extension will mean they qualify. See sentence above: You must file taxes and we all know everyone isn't going to file. The paper I have in front of me says you must earn $3000 or more to qualify.
• United States
28 Mar 08
Fishmomma you are wrong, you need to file a tax form indicating that you do not have an income or have a minimal income or untaxable income in order to get the stiumulus credit. Try getting your facts straight.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
28 Mar 08
I am really confused and concerned about the whole Obama story. He was not my candidate of choice from the start but he did seem decent and likeable. Lately I have been hearing so much stuff about him that is so questionable. It is hard to know the truth from fiction from any of them i think. I am very very undecided at this point as to who I would want to vote for. I don't have a strong good feeling about any of them right now.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Mar 08
Maybe we're learning why he didn't want to talk much about issues in the beginning. He was a lot more acceptable when all we had to go on was "hope" and "change".
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• Belgium
28 Mar 08
The media loves over-exaggerating things. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. To me, he's the same man that presented himself for presidency. Charismatic, articulate and wise.
@dnbuster (442)
• United States
28 Mar 08
grrr i hope he doent win
• United States
28 Mar 08
Where do you alll get your information???? The water cooler? Check your accuracy, your are responsible to post accurate information here not just hearsay. And no you do not have to pay taxes on this money.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Mar 08
I did check my sources, and it's fact, and where did I say you would have to pay taxes on this money?
• Czech Republic
28 Mar 08
all politicians are lying
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Mar 08
Only because we keep rewarding them for doing so.
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• Canada
28 Mar 08
really you girls are power tripping obama is gonna wid... hillary is just a stupid sk.ank
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