Foreign Fundraising

@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
April 2, 2008 12:58am CST
I just read that some famous lady over in England will be hosting a fund raiser for Barak Obama. Now, I have a problem with this(or maybe I'm just clueless about politicking). I don't like the idea of any foreign interest hosting fund raisers for our country's political candidates. I would like to hear what you all think about this situation. I cannot remember ever hearing of anyone over here doing the same for anyone running for political office in another country.
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@lancingboy (1385)
• United States
2 Apr 08
I personally don't think people from other countries should get that involved in our politics, unless of course if she were indeed an American citizen somehow.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
2 Apr 08
I heard George Soros (sp?) who contributes to candidates and is behind move on dot org is from outside the U.S. and doesn't have citizenship.. and that 70% of move on dot org is foreign supported..
• United States
3 Apr 08
..boy ain't that the truth!
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
There continues to be a lot of controversy surrounding George Soros, flowerchilde, but when a person has as much money as he reportedly does it is too often easy for them to circumvent the laws.
• United States
2 Apr 08
yeah i agree with having a problem with a foreigner raising funds for one of our candidtaes. like someone above mentioned, im pretty sure that while raising the funds is fine, Obama ACCEPTING the funds is a no no! thankfully! its bad enough all the special interests that the candidates already deal with, but to add foreign interests would be overwhelming in due course! not to mention once a foreign interest proved that it could influence our politics that directly, the other countries would be beating the candidates doors down to accept THIER money too!
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
So true, Cinder, and I believe that it is for this reason candidates are prohibited from accepting these types of funds.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Her name is Elisabeth Murdoch, and she is media mogul Rupert Murdoch's daughter. She is also an American citizen, her father was born in Australia, raised in England then moved here and got his citizenship and had his family. What everyone has failed to notice is that she is co hosting this fundraiser with Gwenyth Paltrow, and a few other people, so it's not like she is solely doing this. I think it's sad that this is being sensationalized because Ms. Murdoch has a home in England. I think wherever you live if you are an American citizen you have a right to participate in the election. I also find it odd that it hasn't been made an issue that Clinton is known for having donations bundled from Chinese illegals. She wants to talk about her experience in her husbands White House, but yet doesn't want to discuss Johnny Chung, who likened the Clinton White House to a subway where you need to "put in coins to open the gates", and donated large sums of money in his name from the Chinese military to keep hubby in office. Mr. Chung received probation for his antics, the Clintons still kept the money. Sen. Clinton still has been sited for doing the same thing in her own campaign. Point is, ALL the candidates are guilty of this. I just don't see the big deal on this particular story, at least Ms. Murdoch doesn't have military ties to a foreign interest.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
3 Apr 08
My intention was not to get into any sort of "harangue" about the Clintons. You asked what our opinions were of this issue, and I was just expressing mine.. Last time I checked I never said I hated the Clintons. John McCain had a fundraiser in London at the Spencer House in March, to the tune of $1000 to $2300 a plate, and I am disgusted by that as well. Does that mean I hate John McCain? Not last time I checked. I'm not trying to start anything here worldwise, but I did say that ALL candidates are guilty of this, it just seems to me that certain candidates get singled out more than others. I don't understand why we make a huge issue out of this for one candidate but not for another. It'll be a great day in American history when we can have an election based on substantive issues, not all of this type of garbage, regardless of who I choose to support.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
My purpose in posting this discussion, soccermom, was not to get involved in a harangue with you(or anyone), over how much you hate the Clintons. I never mentioned them because they did not figure into my subject in any way.
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@mummymo (23706)
2 Apr 08
I think this goes on rather a lot in many countries sweetheart except it doesn't get publicised! I guess I can see your point of view but that is the nature of the beast that is politics! xxx
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
You are right, mummymo, and the very people we would think have the best reasons to observe the laws are often the ones who do not.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
2 Apr 08
I never heard of this either and I also think it is wrong..I thought a politician could only get so much from certain sources anyways, but then again, I am not into politics that much.. I heard years ago about someone who was receiving money they shouldn't because of the source or the amount..
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
There is supposed to be a limit on how much money a candidate can receive from donations, carmelanirel, but I believe the rule is often overlooked.
@carolbee (16230)
• United States
2 Apr 08
I am not one to participate much in discussions about politics but I agree with you on this one. I think fund raising for a candidate in the US should remain in the US. Obama has my undivided attention as of right now so it's not about the candidiate himself.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
This is merely one more drop in the bucket of things that are wrong with our political system, carolbee. I'm not a political person myself, but I do tend to lose some of my indifference when something as important as our Presidential elections happen. I feel the choices we make then will have to be endured for the next four years.
@Shaun72 (15959)
• Palatka, Florida
2 Apr 08
I agree that is really strange.No other president or anyone who has ran for president has had support from a famous person from another country.
@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
6 Apr 08
Was the woman an American living in England? I don't think that there should be outside interference in the political processes of other countries, but the reality is that it happens all the time. The US government has frequently funded political figures in other countries who they thought were more likely to support American interests - sometimes to the point of providing weapons. It's one of the reasons why so many countries resent the USA.
• United States
3 Apr 08
I agree with you 100%. Perhaps I am being too cynical but I wonder if they have a hidden agenda! I do not think any other country should even remotely interfere with something as important as the Presidential Election. Id not know who the famous lady is but Elton John seems to be trying but will more than likely not be allowed to continue. Elton John's $1million fundraising concert for Clinton 'may break U.S. election rules' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=547870&in_page_id=1770
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Even if the lady is a US citizen I think if she is holding a fundraiser for Obama it should be held in the United States. If the fund raiser is held in England, then it should be viewed as in intrusion into the US political process. Perhaps some people in England have a vested interest in who gets into the presidency in the USA. They should not have the opportunity to have any sort of input into the process, be it financial backing or anyting else.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
You have stated it, clrumfelt, much more eloquently than I ever could have.
• United States
4 Apr 08
I don't get surprised by anything I hear about our politicians and government anymore. They send our jobs over seas, then they allow anybody and everybody to immigrate here, then the ones of those who are lucky to still have a job keep the immigrants up. Dirty deals are done under the table with other countries everyday. Then I read yesterday that the good old USA has a credit card with the national bank in China, and we are borrowing money to keep our country running daily. So why should this come as a surprise to anyone? We are in a mess in this country, and frankly, I don't know any of the candidates will get us out of it. I am thinking maybe we are already dug in too deep.
2 Apr 08
I am from the UK and it does sound rather odd to me. We are aware of what is going on other there, election wise as it is all over our news programs and newspapers. We seem to hear more about it than we do our own elections! It does seem extremely odd. However, I guess the UK prime minister does seem to have the US president in his back pocket (or is it the other way round?) so it does have quite an effect on our country.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
The United States is the leading world power, twinrachel, and that is why everything that happens here will most likely affect most of the major countries of the world, but it is going too far to allow foreign influence like fund raising events.
@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Apr 08
Morning Worldwise1 ! This is nothing new to anyone who realises this is politics..it doesn't matter who it is but kinda like a game to everyone to see who gets the most. I personally don't like the way things have been and not really crazy about the way things will be, but as long as they are in office they can do what they want and if people from other countries want to do this, then they can. We really have no power to change like we want to since its going to happen anyway but just live our lives as positive as we can and not let these things affect us with stress.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Apr 08
I respect your views, Rosekitty, but I am not one to just sit by and let things take their course. The voice and the will of the people is a powerful tool, and we should use them to our country's benefit whenever we can.
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@Rosekitty (19368)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Apr 08
Yes and I agree and I'm sure when i wrote this this morning i was still asleep somewhat. I'm very much an activist..always have been and always will and i tell customers that come into my store to always voice their opinions and Question authority..thats whats wrong with alot of people..they give in too much and let things be without voicing their opinions. Great discussion and Thanks for starting it!