Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar..... Family

The Duggar Family After the Birth of # 17 - the duggar family
United States
April 2, 2008 1:35pm CST
If you watch the discovery channel or the discovery health channel at all, then you will be completely familiar with the Duggar Family. On August 2, 2007 Michelle Duggar gave birth to her 17th child. Yes you read right, 17 children. The Duggars have gone through an estimated 90,000 diapers, and Michelle has been pregnant for 126 months — or 10.5 years — of her life. And They say they are not finished yet. Can you imagine? Now you might ask Why? Why would a couple at 39 years of age continue to pop out a child a year nearly for the last 2 decades...Jim Bob who is an aspiring republican senator says "We both just love children and we consider each a blessing from the Lord. I have asked Michelle if she wants more and she said yes, if the Lord wants to give us some she will accept them." So what are your thoughts about this kind of hysterical mass producing of baseball teams? Is Jim Bob and Michelle really inspired saints, on a mission of God to fulfill the biblical command to go forth and multiply, or are they mad hatters who are in need of birth control and psychiatric care?
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@minnie_98214 (10557)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Thats just crazy why why why would you want to do that. I mean really those poor kids id hate to live in that house. Plus i mean shes 39 its only gonna get harder and more complications now. And how ever does she plan to get them all thru college. Crazy thats all I can say. I bet she gets assistance from the county.
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Its actually quite a house they live in.. over 7000 sq feet I think I saw. I agree that her age might start making future pregnancies difficult. how are you Minnie?
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Wow a big house would help but still im sure it doesnt have enough bathrooms. As for me im doing good thanks. Feeling good that I dont have 17 kids lol.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Actually minnie, no they don't get assistance and are completely debt free! That house is amazing...2 kitchens, a laundramat style laundry room...and lots of bathrooms, although unless every person in a household has their very own a house never has enough bathrooms lol!
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@weemam (13372)
2 Apr 08
well, as they say pal , to each their own . I can only say I am really glad it isn't me :) xx
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Wee :))) I had my share of kids :)) I did as best I could with the three I had, I would have gone insane with little more then one little one at a time. My boys were 5 years apart then 8 years between the middle and the last. One baby at a time I say!
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Nova, by all accounts I hear Michelle is very healthy, but your right she does look older then her 39 years. When you have children it causes a maturity that I think other wise you do not gain. (there are exceptions of course0. I do not think just because you are female you are meant to be a mother and it is perfectly acceptable that a women would choose to not have children. Some times I have envied those of my friends that did not. Not only have they retained more of their youth than I have, the freedoms they could enjoy is something parents sacrifice altogether. Don't get me wrong here I said sometimes I envied. There are joys unspeakable about being a mother. Joys, blessings heartaches, gut wrenching anger. There are emotions only mothers can experience. I would not have given any of that up for every freedom and lives my childless friends lived and for all the money in the world.
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Me too, weemam! Whew! I can't even begin to imagine what that woman must go through. I chose not to have children, and sometimes I have regretted that choice, only sometimes though, and I truly love children and am spiritually lifted by them, BUT I just don't get what they're doing here, with all of these kids. How can she subject her body to that? Can you imagine how old she must be inside? You know, I've always thought that women the same age as myself, who've had children, have always looked older than I do. Having kids just seems to suck some of the youth right out of you, so just imagine what she sees in the mirror. Maybe that sounds shallow, and it's not meant to, but geez, she must be an empty shell by now.
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@ElicBxn (63664)
• United States
3 Apr 08
I think they are nutz. But I think having children is pretty crazy.... No, I don't have any.
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• United States
3 Apr 08
Ouch :)))) of course all this coming from a woman who loves Cats :))) Hi Elic good to see you friend.
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• United States
3 Apr 08
Elic, I know that your sons and grandson is mighty obliged to you and for indebted in gratitude :)))
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• United States
3 Apr 08
and forever indebted in gratitude:))) that should read
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
2 Apr 08
Hello Angelwhispers!:-) One of my father's friends are 19 brothers and sisters from same parents, my immediate neighbor, in my homeland (We used to call her Aunt) were 11. Leaving aside the judgment for a moment, I am just impressed by not only the fertility of the young lady but also that she is healthy, if indeed she is, and have stamina and motivation to go forward with more. That must have taken a lot strength out of her! Amazing! I do, however, think that they should consider possible problems with future pregnancies, as she is already touching 40, before going forward for another one. As far as if they are really happy or not, I seriously don't know. The family of my father's friend is quite a happy family. I would say that they are happier than most folks that I know of, including those who have none but one kid or those who have none. There is definitely a problem of individual care and time, and I don't think they can ever manage such a thing. But, come to think of it, is it impossible that they are less happy being in large numbers having less individual time? having an example that I shared, I don't think so! But, I also think that it would be an exception rather than a rule! I would just wish them health, happiness and a blissful healthy life!
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Good Evening dear One...... You are always my voice of reason. It is so hard to maintain an attitude of social judgment once you walk into a discussion my friend. Of course you are impressed as we all should be.... There are not many women that could do what she has done or stand up under the scrutiny that we are giving this family. "I would just wish them health, happiness and a blissful healthy life!" There is just not much to say after this statement. Kamran once again thank you for the light you bring into a dark room.
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• United States
3 Apr 08
rotflmao LMAO LMAO Kamran.... LMAO I was referring to the dark room I call my brain.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
2 Apr 08
Thank you for your kind words, Angelwhispers! "Kamran once again thank you for the light you bring into a dark room." What dark room you are talking about here precisely? That lady's dark room is already lit by 17 light bulbs!:-)
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
3 Apr 08
I saw this- they spend 600 dollars a week on groceries. It's unreal..he is in real estate, if we go into a depression, their little colocy is going to be hurting. How can they possibly pay all the day to day bills along with medical stuff?? They won't be able to pay for their college or braces or anything like that. I think they are ridiculous and sick. I guess they don't see the future. I don't know. I just laugh at them because they are nutty...what do you expect from a guy named: JIM BOB?? Ummm...her uterus is going to fall out one can only hope. It's almost like their own private little cult...
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• United States
3 Apr 08
Its true enough what would happen to the family if Dad were to suddenly become disabled, unemployed, or economically devastated. Big responsibility.
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• United States
4 Apr 08
LMAO Foxy :)))) i can not imagine... takes the BIG LOVE to a whole different level :))))
• United States
5 Apr 08
Foxy you are too funny!! LOL
2 Apr 08
I have seen the documentries about the familly and if im honest i cannot fault them really the only concern i had is that the children do not get enought quality time with the parents as a lot of the care seems to be delegated to the elder siblings. They are totally self sufficient, they earn thier own income have their own house and vans and their children are always smart and clean and they all look relativly happy. so no if they want to do it and they can afford to do so then good for them,
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Graceanddowen, of course you are right. Just like I told a poster further down, it is none of our business, but we are mylotters and you know we like to discuss, tear apart, and make it our business to find out the opinions of other mylotters of everything we hear and see. Its the nature of the beast we call MYLOT. We are just sharing and I truly enjoy and appreciate your comments and views. Thank you.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
2 Apr 08
My 2 cents- I had totally forgotten about how things were before the new house...14-15 kids in their old 4 bedroom ranch style house, then #16 was born while in the 3 bedroom rental while they finished the new house. They might have been fine financially but stuffing 5 girls in one little bedroom and 10 boys in another with another baby on the way doesn't seem too responsible even though it was just temporary.
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2 Apr 08
Yes I can see your point of view and appreciate it but at the end of the day it is not up to any of us what they decide to do with their lives, They take care of the children and support themselfs. it would be a different case if they were sponging of the state but they are not so i have no problems with them.
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@AJ1952Chats (2332)
• Anderson, Indiana
3 Apr 08
When it comes to helping to raise your siblings, some of them might have enough of childrearing and would hold off on having kids for awhile (if ever). If they do end up having kids, they might just decide to have between one and three. So, if this is the case, the next generation will balance out the population. However, if the kids find this to be a fulfilling experience, they might repeat it to a degree--but, perhaps, some of them will be repeating it through adoption. If some of these kids end up having seventeen or more kids, some might come from the womb and some might be adopted. We never know what the future holds for families. And having that many kids with probable plans for more isn't for everybody, but it seems to work for them. All I know is that they're raising a bunch of seemingly happy kids who are Godly, talented, creative, educated, hardworking, and a whole lot of other positive traits. And, most importantly, there isn't a child in that home who hasn't been--and continues to be--a loved and wanted one! Their strict religious convictions alone will guide them to be selective when it comes to life partners, so some might not even get married or else get married later in life. I don't think that they're going to explode the population--instead, they can be seen as an inspiration for families of all sizes, because they have lots of ideas to share on having a happy and healthy family life. If more people lived with that much loving cooperation and could entertain themselves as easily as that family does, the world would be a better place!
• Anderson, Indiana
5 Apr 08
I don't understand your response to what I wrote, because I didn't even suggest that any kind of Dugger-bashing was going on here--even though I've seen at least one forum at another site where most of the participants were simply tearing them to pieces. So far, these kids seem to be happy--even the ones who are old enough to rebel. One thing that might end up happening would be that some of the members of the younger generation will get out in the world and, while they won't trash their religious upbringing, they might modify it some and even convince their parents to loosen up some. I know of one minister who was so overly strict that he thought that all women wearing jeans must be some terrible sinners. Now, some of his kids (all daughters) are adults and teens, and I saw pictures of them on a family vacation, and at least one or two of the daughters were wearing jeans. I've even seen it in my own family where one of my aunts and her daughter wouldn't have thought of wearing slacks at one time, but they do now, and they're just a Christian as they were back when they didn't. Anyway, I happen to think that the Duggers are doing a great job of raising their kids. These huge families aren't for everybody, but they work for some--and, obviously, for them. Me? I was an only child, and there were various people who had a problem with that. Families come in all sizes, and the most important ingredient is love!
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• Anderson, Indiana
5 Apr 08
One more thing... Watch the original version of the movie Cheaper By The Dozen made back around 1950. This family had 12 kids (six girls and six boys), and there were people who had a problem with that, but there were other people who admired them. The two older girls--and, especially, the very oldest--thought that their dad was being a little too strict (to say the least), so it started with the oldest deciding to cut her hair during summer vacation at a beach cottage. By the end of the summer, she was still respectable, but she was wearing her hair short, wearing lingere instead of long johns, and had on stockings and high heels. The dad stayed strict in a lot of ways, but he got around to accepting his daughter's new way of dressing and quit thinking that young women who dressed as she did looked like Jezebel. On the other hand, the daughter learned that her dad was actually admired by her peers--including her boyfriend--if they were thinking mature thoughts. The ending is sad in how this daughter had just come to respect her dad on a greater level and had gotten much closer to him when he ended up suffering a fatal heart-attack. Anyway, it's a really wonderful movie that I'd recommend to anyone. Possibly, one or more of those Dugger girls will cut her hair and put on a pair of jeans in time, and I could, should this happen, see Jim-Bob coming around just like Frank did in the movie.
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• United States
3 Apr 08
With much respect I have to beg a difference with you. I suppose you have not had any preacher sons as boy friends. Let me tell you they are the worst. Sometimes living in such restrictive religious homes, will send an adult young person the opposite way of their parents. The Same with the young ladies. If you have an y education in how cults or tight religious communities operate you would know that eventually young people rebel and seek freedoms that they would not have sought had they been a little less controlled. As far as not causing a population explosion..... That family is already at that point. You really can not assume to know the heart of the home since all we see and clean smiling happy faces that are baough and paid for by a cable network. If you had read any of the other responders and our interaction you would know that this did not really mean to be a free for all bashing of the Duggar rather then a discussion of reality.
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Just as I don't think I have the right to tell someone they can't have an abortion, I personally don't think I have a right to tell someone they should or shouldn't have more children if those children are going to be well cared for, if they are supported financially as well as physically. I can't imagine raising that many children. I'd go mad. But if they can afford it and are good parents with family support, why not. I do wonder about how much attention each child can get if there are so many. But then the older children can attend to the younger, I suppose. But what about Michelle's body? It takes a lot of a woman to be pregnant and give birth, let alone the every day stresses of parenting. I've read that it takes at least two years for a woman's body to recover fully from pregnancy and childbirth. In some respects their having so many children can be seen as incredibly selfish. The people in our culture are such huge consumers that we destroy the environment at an incredible rate. So increase population in Western culture does the earth no favors. With so many people who want children but can't have them, maybe they should at least consider be surrogate parents.
• United States
2 Apr 08
Youdon'tsay, no we do not have the right nor the liberty to inject our will onto others. This discussion is purely only for us to learn about each other here in mylot. Like you I have seen this as a selfish issue also. The 90,000 disposable diapers for one startles a person sober. I also think about all of the children that need adoption.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Well first...it's none of my business what they decide for their family anyway. LOL I have seen several of their shows and they do seem to be a happy well adjusted family. The have a beautiful, large, brand new home. They have zero debt. She seems to be in good health. I personally wouldn't want to have that many and not at that age...they'll be roughly 60 years old before they'll have everyone grown and on their own! But if that's what makes them feel happy and complete then..good for them! Did you know (or anyone else reading this) that besides the 15 pregnancies resulting in live births, Michelle also had two miscarriages early in the marriage? After the first baby was born she did use birth control but got pregnant twice anyway and both pregnancies ended in miscarriage. That was when they decided not to "interfere with what God wanted" for their family. It seems like their children are more well rounded than a lot of children out there so they must be doing something right.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Yes, I love that aspect of mylot...it's none of my business but let's gossip about it anyway! And you are absolutely right that we only see what they want us to see...and I have seen a few meltdowns with the little ones. Can you just imagine what breaks out when #13 pushes #14 down the indoor slide causing him to smash into #15 who knocks over #16 while Michelle is busy with #17 and #1-#12 are busy doing laundry, cooking meals and homeschooling! Yikes!
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@mummymo (23706)
3 Apr 08
As long as they are able to provide financially and give each child the love and attention they need then fine by me! I personally couldn't have quite so many children - I think I would end up in a psychiatric hospital! Some people are happy to have lots of children around them but it isn't for me - at least not on that scale! xxx
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• United States
4 Apr 08
MummyMo, I have always said that I have so much respect for people that can be teachers and youth leaders. in general children that are not my own get on my nerves. Even when I was nursing I never aspired to be a pediatric nurse. I care for my grandchildren but if they were not of my own blood I could not do it. I would never have wanted a bigger family then what Dad and I had. in fact after my middle son I was quite content to have 2 :))) jake was a big surprise. But like I told Wee, it was 8 years after my middle one.... I know she has me beat by 15.... LMAO talk about an OPPPPSSS!
@whittby (3072)
• United States
2 Apr 08
I think they're crazy, I truly do. If you love children that much, adopt, please adopt. What kind of shape is her body or uterus in for Pete's sake. I don't think our bodies are made to get pregnant that much. I knew a family back east that had nine kids and they felt this way too - she was in her 30's and her doctor told her she had the uterus of a much older lady - all worn out.
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• United States
2 Apr 08
That was what I was telling Goodie Whittby, my uterus was wore out and old after the second one. I guess some women are built to have babies. My body was not one of them.
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@Feona1962 (7526)
• United States
2 Apr 08
Well, Financially I don't know how they do it...They are very fortunate that all their children are healthy..The buddy system is their way of managing all the kids..Michelle is responsible for the new baby and each older child takes a younger child under their wing...That is nice but the older child did not have the younger one so although responsibility is a good thing..what about the older childs wants and wishes. Taking care of a little one is a big deal for an adult let alone a teenager having to do it, pretty much because they have too..I kinda think that is unfair....Without the older ones Michelle and Bob would certainly have their hands full... My other biggest concern is..What if something happens to Bob and Michelle..Who will take in 17 children?
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• United States
3 Apr 08
Good Evening Feona :)) My concern is also the fairness of being responsible for younger siblings. When I was a child I had to tend to my younger brothers out of necessity. My mother worked among other things. I lost so much of my childhood and youth. Not that the responsibility was not good for me. I do think that young people need more. But to always be shackled with it is unfair and life changing. I had not considered what might happen should both parents be taken away.
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@CanadaGal (4304)
• Canada
3 Apr 08
In many ways, I find them to be a bit insane for having so many children, but that's because it's not something I would want for my body or brain. However, one of the advantages of so many, is that the older ones can help look after the younger ones. I don't think that's fair on the kids though, they need their chance to be kids too. I've never heard of this family until reading this discussion, and I'm trying to hold back the giggles here. Is his name really Jim Bob? Because, hahaah, well... stereotypes DO form from reality... and I can't help but think that Michelle would be better named Mickey Sue or something. (aaaaahhhhh!!! SPLAT! There goes my star rating again lmao!).
• United States
4 Apr 08
rotflmao your rating is always Safe in my discussions Karen... yes in deed his name is Jim Bob :))) I could never have done it myself.... I had more then I ever thought I would have and that was 3 :)))
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• United States
2 Apr 08
Yeah,I have seen that show and simular ones with the concept of lots of children,I think its nuts.17 kids is way too many,I think she should be fixed and so should he.I love my children,but I only have two,and I think there should really be a limit on the amount of children should beable to have.I couldn't even imagine living like that,always someone around,always having to share whatever you do have,and never no privcy,I'm sorry but people need there space and I find 17 children crazy.
• United States
2 Apr 08
LMAO Sassy, I do not want to be overly critical but I have to wonder about sanity myself.
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• United States
2 Apr 08
I have watched alot of there shows over the years starting with the first. I am amazed at them. I guess if they can provide for all the children then so be it. Its there lives and if they want say 25 kids they can. As long as there all taken care of and have a good life which they do. There not like most who have kids and cant support them. They arent on welfare. They both provide for the family. Eventually Michelle will not be able to have anymore and they will finally be done. Untill then I hope they accept as many kids as they can. ~May The Kisses Of An Angel Cover And Protect You Always!~ Copper
• United States
2 Apr 08
That is one thing about human nature CopperKitten, we have such curiosity albeit sometimes bordering on nosy about other peoples lives. Especially if those lives are so much different than ours. It was so very nice to share your views Thank you.
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@fizzytom (752)
• Maribor, Slovenia
3 Apr 08
They are crazy - and not just a little bit selfish. How can you give each child the time he or she needs if you have that many children? It's good to have brothers and sisters to play with, learn with and to help each other and set an example to the younger kids but kids need time alone with the parents too. Also, we live in an over-populated world where we consume too much, I find this irresponsible in the wider scheme of things. If they love kids so much, why not foster some?
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• United States
4 Apr 08
Fizzytom I share some of your concerns as well.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
3 Apr 08
I actually have heard about them and have visited their website. I think it's pretty amazing that they not only have all of these kids but that they have done it without any assistance and are completely debt free. The older kids are all going to college and are studying to be Dr.'s, Nurses, Teachers, ect. and when the younger ones are old enough they too will be going to college. In a society today where there are so many ppl having kids that can't afford it and then the government is expected to support them and most of them rarely finish high school let alone get to college, I find this family a breath of fresh air. I think more ppl should read up on them and follow their example. I know that every family is different and some ppl need help to make ends meet but at the same time if you can't afford children then you shouldn't keep having one after another. **AT PEACE WITHIN** ~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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• United States
4 Apr 08
Afternoon Twoey, With much respect to you, I have to say that it scares me when to even think of other family following in the Duggars example. Not in this day and age.
@Deea48 (1166)
• United States
3 Apr 08
Well that is a whole lot of kids, and they must have the patience of saints, I wonder how many have reached their teens. If they have the means to support all of them I suppose it is ok. My only beef how do you give enough attention to each child. I grew up in a rather big family(9) kids, its is very hard to track that many kids and when you always have little ones, who pays a attention to the ones not needing so much care. Plus it is rather nutts growing up in such a house hold, well it was for me anyway. Can you imagin what their holidays are like. Not to mention what their future holidays will be like. We started from 9, now there are 23 children from the nine. Yikes, how many children will come for 17 or more..... to much if you ask me....
• United States
3 Apr 08
Wow... I have in mind the Osmond family... Do you know who they are? there are 75? grand children and like 27 great grand children.... You would have to have a palace and a hotel to bring in the entire family at holidays.
@Chloes (1)
• Canada
19 Dec 08
I think this is absolutely appalling. There is no need for it. They may like to think that she is taking care of all of the children, but she isn't. That job falls upon all of the other children. Did she ask them if they would mind helping her raise their siblings. There is birth control or abstinance. Is this for attention? I don't think there are very many people who are impressed by this. Obviously she can't work, so who supports them and their children, do they get donations or have sponsors? If someone else is having to help them out......guess what......time to give your head a shake.......WAKE UP. I am giving them too much of my time and giving them more attention by even commenting but, I needed some place to say how I felt about this. Give your other children a life of their own, or at least their own mother raise them.
• United States
19 Aug 09
I too had 2 miscarriages. They were not caused by birthcontrol but by something being wrong with the babies. Although I would not want 18 kids I don't have a problem with what they are doing. I chose to have 2 kids and then my 3rd was a surprise and a blessing that can only have been given by God. I wish this family well. I enjoyed reading all your comments.