Question for Obama Supporters

I know, I can't believe people on here still believe the whole hand over his heart thing about the pledge of allegiance. In one of the posts someone even posted the snopes article debunking that one as a source supporting the myth that he didn't put his hand over his heart for the national anthem. I couldn't help myself, I laughed.

I think I know the post you're talking about and I think I was the one who posted the Snopes link. I really is laughable how some people will believe only what they want to believe. Annie

Have YOU seen the tapes of the entire sermons? Not just the part that's been played over and over again, but the whole thing? I'm NOT defending this guy's comments for one minute but if you'd heard the whole thing in context it doesn't sound quite as bad. PLEASE don't jump on me for that, I'm still not defending him. Anyway, how can you claim to know what was in the minds of the worshipers? I honestly don't care about this issue and I'm so sick and tired of hearing about it. Where I come from priests and ministers come and go but people stay with the same church for generations. We once had a minister at our church that my parents didn't care for at all but we didn't change churches, we stayed because of the people there. Annie

Annie, I asked you a question in another thread that for some reason I can't find my way back to and since it was someone else's thread I will not be notified if you answered. Since this is a newer and therefore easier thread to find I will ask it again here. Since you are being so obtuse about them, have you even really watched these clips? I don't mean just watched about 10 seconds and then blow it off as just another republican attack, but really watched the content of the tape. Try to take your eyes off of pastor Wright and all of his gyrations and look at his congregation. What you will see is not the actions of some folks hearing this type of sermon occasionally or for the first time. What is obvious is that these people are used to this type of diatribe and obviously with their claping and laughing and jumping and carrying on they totally agree with what the man is saying! These are not just random "once in a blue moon" sermons these are thoughts and ideas that this man spouts Sunday after Sunday after Sunday! Obama insults the intelligence of every American when he says "he didn't hear" or "didn't necessarily agree with" pastor Wright! Some change!

Second time in two weeks somebody has been responding to me at the same time I am responding to them on another discussion!! LOL As far as the ranking goes, I guess I really hadn't noticed, but now I'm curious as to how the heck that happens when it seems the only responses I get just leads to more defending my positions. LOL

Number 1 in the politics category, congrats! :D But back onto what you were saying, I can truly relate to you. I'm also a supporter of Barack Obama and I constantly get insulted for it. Just right now I got into an argument that started off smoothly and ended with the other person calling all French people egotistical (I'm French) and claiming I was a very immature individual since I'm only 15. Now, I was not offended by the words but rather by the strong display of hatred.

I live in Utah, and I'm a mormon who's liberal - so I'm ALWAYS on the defense about my position. So many people here ask me questions, luckily it's turning into curiosity more than "you're wrong and I'll prove it". Since Mitt dropped out of the race a lot of Utahns are actually considering Obama! YAY!!!

Rodney, The people that say Obama is far left also say McCain is a liberal (which is ridiculous). The problem is you are getting your information from the far right. Try living more in the middle. I visit websites from the right and left and I do my homework before attacking other candidates. I would not be so cocky about the general. Once the Dem's have a nominee all these new voters, Dem's voting 2 to 1 in the primaries compared to the Rep's. McCain can't squeeze a dime from the far right meantime Obama has small contributions from March totaling 40 million. If Republican's think they have it in the bag then I am glad as they won't be ready for the general. It'll be a good, tough campaign but thanks to W the Dem's have the ball and its theirs to fumble or score.

And lose it they will! They have two candidates at each others throats and neither of the two would know the truth if it hit them in the face! One is depending on the political machine that got her husband elected to two terms and the other one has the other half of the democrats mesmerized with his silver tounged oratory skills! He talks and everybody listens glassy-eyed, at WHAT? Nothing, absolutely nothing of any substance other than "change"! Change to what? You see, that is what he is NOT telling you!

Lisan, Just thought you might like this tid-bit. Even the democrats place Obama to the LEFT of Hillary when it comes to liberalism! Sorry but he ain't no moderate!

Jormin I went on to your websit that you claim that debunk my statment, I guess that I am stupid because I did not find anything that Debunked the statments. The problem is that Obama did say want I have wrote. The quote about him being a Constitutional Law Professor he said it durning a campaign speech. Both the Selma, and his Father where at a speech at the Selma church. Sorry Jormin but he did say it, it is on video.

One more thing sometime I am the acting manager, but that does not make me the manager. Even if he sometimes was a replacement professor does not make him a professor.

More debunking for you: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/saywhat.asp http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_really_a_constitutional_law.html What McCain supporters are trying to do is keep the general public away from the real issues of this election. The economy and the Iraq War. Two issues John McCain has either been wrong and confused about or knows nothing about. Is Al Qaeda in Iran? It seems either McCain is confused about it or wants them to be.