Are Obama Supporters the Biggest Hypocrites
By gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
April 3, 2008 10:23am CST
I know that the whole Obama Cult will come on and jump all over me for this, but I am sick of how hypocritical the Obama supporter are. Verytime someone callout Obama for something he said in front of a video camera, his defender come out and say" Well that is not what he ment to say". The problem is that he says alot of thing that he did not mean to say. I know that he did not mean to say that children are a punishment, but he did say that. He did say that he was born because of what happen in Selma. He did not that he was born around the time of Selma. What make this hypocritical is how quick the Obamites jumped on Hillary for the sniper fire comment. For the biggest hypocritical and almost a lie is what they say about McCain. McCain never said that he wanted the war in Iraq to last 100 year. This is what he actually said" We have been in Germany for over 60 years, we have been in Korea for over 50 years, so what would be wrong with staying in Iraq for 100 years". If the Obamites are tring to say that we need to bring home all the troops world wide home that is one thing, but that is not what they are saying. What they are saying is McCain wants a 100 year war, which is a lie.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
3 Apr 08
...unfortunately, that's the nature of politics.. it's demonize any opposition for the sake of votes.. sometimes even demonizing our own country in the eyes of the world! Yet I still think 'both' parties (even the extremes of each) and most candidates mean well.. So I go with the party and candidates whose concern priorities match up closest with mine, and also I guess it's a what do I think can really work the best (or with the least disaster) or which answers and ways of looking at things will bring us to disaster the slowest!
@jormins (1223)
• United States
3 Apr 08
Just curious what did Obama say on video camera? If an Obama supporter is wrong I'll be the first to say they are wrong. But when you continue to spew attacks with nothing behind them how are you surprised that Obama supporters will come back at you with facts and links? How is that hypocritical? Throw me a link of this 'hypocrisy' and I'll judge it for myself and then tell you where you're wrong. (jk)
How does Clinton's 4 sniper 'misstatements' even compare to Obama directly quoting John McCain? Yes McCain later clarified that he meant to say he was talking about military bases. You can believe him if you want to, its impossible to jump inside his head, but then I see clips of McCain joking about bombing Iran and McCain continuing Bush's failed policies so I think his record speaks for itself.
Will McCain keep troops in Iraq for 100 years? Definitely not, he'll only have 4 years in office if he elected. I believe he'll keep the surge there at least another 2 years and then if its looking real good over there start withdrawing troops. In the meantime who knows what happens to our economy or gas prices.
Will McCain continue Bush's failed policies? Definitely, he's already changed his own views to match the far right trying to garner their united support which he still does not have. Remember 6 months ago McCain was against things like torture, the Bush Tax Cuts, the deport 'em all immigration plan.
Will McCain invade Iran? Hard to say but his statements about Al Qaeda and Iran are very scary. Either he's confused or he wants the general public to believe that Iran is our next Iraq. No made up WMD's (yet) this time but they are building their case one could surmise based off recent events which is scary. It would be cheaper to invade Iran now that we have so many soldiers next door rather than withdraw them and invade later...
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
3 Apr 08
Rodney,
The whole WMD debate will probably never end. Based on what I know and I believe some CIA reports, Bush knew he had no WMD's. But if a McCain supporter throws me a link to an unbiased website I give them credit. Even if its a biased website I give them credit as usually there is some truth there, or a link to their source so you can see what was done.
Surely you have to admit a site like Newsmax should not be taken literally right? Just like a site like the Daily Kos will most likely favor the left and should not be trusted for an unbiased opinion.
If something is taken out of context shouldn't it be brought to everyone's attention? Context can be very important. I try to read everything compare it to the facts and make my own judgment. Too much on mylot I just see the same stuff regurgitated over and over much of it not even being near the truth.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
3 Apr 08
Jormins,
Even when people give Obama supporters links and proof it means nothing! They just slough it off as "unreliable" or "out of context"! Yesterday there was a discussion which I had posted in about WMD's. Of course the Minah birds all squawked back that there were none but Destiny I believe it was came up with at least 6 maybe 10 links prooving even Clinton knew there were WMD's. You and all other Obama supporters and Bush bashers are only going to believe what you want to believe and facts have absolutely nothing to do with it!
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
3 Apr 08
Do you believe the New York Sun Times to be biased?
http://www.2.nysun.com/article/26514
How about the Washington Post?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html
Or even TownHall.com?
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/LarryElder/2006/05/25/who_thought_iraq_had_wmd_most_everybody
I don't know man, but even if as you say a little is probably true, that is pretty convincing and I left out the more "controversials" like Fox.
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@HawaiiGopher (1009)
• Belgium
4 Apr 08
I get what you're saying but to be honest, it can get a bit exhausting to constantly find false accusations of a candidate you support. Imagine you believed a candidate had true potential but was constantly attacked by a strongly partisan media with false accusations, degrading your candidate's image. Then those who actually believe the propaganda go on to spread it onto the Internet, only to have it debunked a couple of hours later. Tiring, no?
That's why I'll never jump straight away on anything the media says about an opposing candidate. Clinton's sniper statements, McCain's word errors, etc.. I know it's not what really matters.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
4 Apr 08
I think it's a shame it's come to the point where people will call others names or insult them because they support a different party or even a different candidate from the same party. Each candidate has supporters who probably are a bit hypocritical but that doesn't mean for one second that all supporters of any of them are hypocrites. I've supported and voted for many people for many offices in my lifetime but I've yet to find one that never made a mistake or didn't say or do something that I didn't like or agree with. Nobody's perfect and no two people feel exactly the same way on every single issue. Obama addressed the whole "100 year" bit on Hardball last night and he stated it's his opinion that we shouldn't have a permanent military presence in Iraq. He also said we need to be "as careful getting out as we were careless going in" so he has no intention of pulling all the troops out in one fell swoop without giving any thought to it. I'm sure the same can be said about Hillary. I am concerned about McCain's "confusion" about al Qaeda/extremists or whatever he thinks are coming from Iran. No matter how you slice it, it's disturbing! Either he's trying to "ease us" into a conflict with Iran or he's lost it, neither of which is a pleasant thought. We all know what Obama meant by the "baby as punishment" remark. Could he have chosen his words more carefully? Of course, as I think most of us could now and then but there are no TV cameras to catch us in our slip-ups.
My point is there are supporters and even campaign workers for every candidate who will stop at nothing to get their guy/gal elected. Some of them are hypocrites, some of them tell out and out lies but that doesn't mean that all of any of their supporters are like that. We all want what's best for our country, our families and ourselves; we don't all agree on what that is or how to get it but that's politics and that's why we have elections.
Annie
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@asuniqueasyou (354)
• United States
3 Apr 08
Obama followers will defend anything and everything that he says. if he says something wrong they will downplay it as much as possible and quickly change the subject. they they see it Hillary is a liar and Obama is perfect. I do not understand nor will I ever understand why people are so smitten with him. He is the most liberal voting senator in senate. he is not a "new kind of politician" as his followers boast, he lies just like the rest of them. the wright story, how he came to America, the law professor story...all lies. not "misspoken words" as I have heard them called. You are right on gewcew. the media is so biased that they too work to lessen the impact of the fallacies Obama speaks. It is amazing how influential the media has been in creating this candidate. he has no real record of accomplishments that have had significant impact on the nation and the few things that he did do in his community are things that anyone can do. it is just amazing.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
3 Apr 08
Asuniqueasyou I just learned that everything that I have wrote was wrong. Lisan has just informed me that everything that I saw on the news was made up. I guess that all the News Medias are either owned by Clinton, or McCain. I guess I need to make sure I check with Obama supporter before I post a discussion about Obama.
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@asuniqueasyou (354)
• United States
3 Apr 08
the media is very one sided. I dont doubt for a second that the person who wrote the rebuttals to the lies Obama has told are Obama supporters. I have seen the dirty tactics his supporters stoop to at my own caucus convention. I dont trust him, I believe he is just like every other politician and he will definitely NOT get my vote. I dont understand why so many people are so smitten by him. he stutters when he gets a tough question he is not sure how to answer, he speaks around questions when he doesnt want to answer them, and he has not made me feel that he speaks on behalf of the issues I support. I have been a diehard Democrat for years and this election is the first time that I am seriously questioning whether the values viewed by the democratic candidates are the views that represent me. I am just frustrated with it all I guess, but I dont think the info lisan offers as proof of misinformation can be 100% trusted when the beliefs of the source of the information is not known.
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@lisan23 (442)
• United States
3 Apr 08
I knew you were posting this because you thought you were right about the Selma speech and JFK thing. But clearly you haven't read the speech and you don't know the history of Selma. Selma had been in the news and media before the bridge crossing. They started getting attention in the late 1950's because of the efforts to try and register black voters and the opposition they were getting from the KKK and the whites in the area.
My suggestion? Before you accuse me of being a hypocrite make sure what YOU are saying is in fact accurate. I've never accused McCain of saying anything like being in Iraq for 100 years. What I've said about McCain has been completely truthful, as well as I what I've said about Obama and Clinton.
Don't make generalizations about his supporters and please don't tell me what I am, what I think, or what I believe.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
3 Apr 08
If what you told me in another post is what you believe then your beliefs are a direct oxymoron to the beliefs of the party and candidate you so staunchly support.
As far as the "100 year" lie, I don't think Gewcew was directing that specifically at you but Obama supporters in general. But then again, who can blame them when this is what comes out of Barak's mouth whenever he talks about McCain!
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
3 Apr 08
You are right Lisan you are alway so right. Everything that Obama has said is correct. Nothing he has ever said was incorrect. Everyone else is incorrect. Hillary was incorrect, McCain was incorrect, ABC news incorrect, CNN, incorrect, MSNBC incorrect, CBS incorrect, but one shining hope for America is Obama, and you lisan. Because Obama and lisan are always correct. Videos do not matter, nether do fact. I am so wrong and I want to say I am so sorry that I was mistaken about Obama and his followers. There is nothing wrong with you and the your fellow Obama supporter alway so quick to jump on other candidate, but will never except when your candidate has misspoken, because as I have already said Obama is perfect, just like you. Maybe Obama will make you his V.P, you to would make the perfect ticket. Why do we need a God when we have Obama on Earth.
@joshphillips19 (9)
• United States
4 Apr 08
No wouldnt say that But they need to know Hes a musluim not sure if i spelt that Right But Nobody dares to Do some Background searching On him befor they vote or whatever