What...smoking has no effects on you?

bluemars you are exagrating what we have said. We have not said smoking is good for you...though it does appear to be good for you in SOME ways. What we have said is that the VAST majority of evidence is bad science. Smoking iS linked to SOME diseases but the risks have been exagerated. And while smokers for example do have a slightly higher chance of getting certain disases, there are FAR more important other factors involved. If in the last fifty years we had not spnding millions on trying to prove smoking was th dfinitiv cause of most disas, the money could have been spent finding the true causes and finding cures. two diseases now KNOWN to have statistical correlation with smoking, but now proven to be not the cause, are stomach ulcers/cancr and cervical cancer. So th mdical scince world wer prov wrong on those...and we ar going to se it with lung cancer too. Pollution from diesel, coal dust asbestos etc ; genetic disposition, and viruses are the causes...smoking may bring it on a bit quicker with some or all those other factors present...as it may do in cervical cancer too. howeevr...eliminate hpv virus and NO AMOUNT of smoking can cause it. now they KNOW that why do you think they are hysterically trying to wipe it out? Because if they do not make very effort, a health authority is going to get its butt sued by a smoker with cervical cancer for lying to her. So we are not saying smoking is completely innocent of causing disase. we are actually saying that ...if we use th crime analogy....that smoking may be a petty thief, and by blaming it and trying to fix it up with every other crime in the area, medical science is actually letting the real culprits continue their spree of rape and murder. This is NOT rubbish...ignore it at your peril.

No, on the contrary... the non-smokers are complaining because the smokers keep opening the doors to go out of the pubs and as a result they get cold. Smokers will never win, so why complain about the bans? I'd just like to point out to you that according to a report released last week, if you use a mobile phone, you are in far more danger than the person who smokes. So do you own a mobile phone, and will you be banned from taking it in the pub? No, of course you won't. Live and let live! That's my motto.

Bluemars, not all smokers are complaining. I am a smoker and never once have I said that smoking is good for you or your health. Fact is smoking is just as bad as eating red meat or breathing in polluted air, which we all do. The smokers that are complaining aren't doing it because they want to blow smoke in your face. They are complaining because our rights as smokers are being taken from us. We are being told where we can or can't smoke. So far the only smoking ban where I live is that we can't smoke inside public places like resturuants. I don't have a problem with that myself. I just go outside to smoke. I have heard of bans where you can't smoke inside your own vehicle, which is one ban I will never comply with. I bought my car and it's my personal property, therefore I will smoke in it if I want. But for you to say that all smokers are bad and that we "just want to blow it in your faces" is wrong.

The science has already shown that smoking or even second hand smoke is not nearly as dangerous as the anti smoking Nazis have tried to say. There is evidence that suggests that in some aspects it IS good for you. You have already been blinded by the junk science and propaganda that the anti smoking lobby has been dishing out by the bucket loads. There is a thing called truth, and the anti smoking lobby and anti smoking individuals such as yourself do not want the truth to be known. I'm am glad it makes you laugh, and I hope that you are still laughing when the same tyrannical people decide that things you enjoy are now bad for you and seek to ban them due to healthy lifestyle concerns. Let's see how funny you think it is then. Junk food is already a target, as are overweight people... and these groups are setting their sights on other things as well. Sooner or later they will get around to you, so you go ahead and keep laughing. Of course we are afraid of the news laws and bans, who wouldn't be? These laws are trying to legislate personal choice and infringe upon my personal rights and freedoms in an unconstitutional manner. These are the same type of laws that Nazi Germany passed prior to destroying everyones liberty there, and if you think that can't happen here you better think again because it has already begun. You say we still go out to have our habit, yet now they are trying to make smoking in public illegal, or ban smoking within so many feet of doorways or buildings. There is no satisfying people like you, and you won't be happy until our rights are gone completely. We are complaining because we are being discriminated against for no good reason. The second hand smoke is proven to be nothing more than fabrication, and there are things much more hazardous than that is. You're just upset because the science is finally being used to bring out the truth, and people like you don't want the truth to be known... therefore you start discussions such as this one to try and convince people that the truth is fiction, because you can't face up to the truth.

I am a smoker and know all the risks and I am for the bans.I have to young kids and I don't smoke in the huse or car or anywhere around them.I don't want ther smokers affecting my children and thats why I am for the bans.I never heard that smoking could be good for I would like to hear more about that.I wouldn't believe it but it still sparks my intrest.

well I am a smoker and I know it damages me and my health, I certainly wouldn't tell anyone smoking is good for you. I am also not afraid of any laws regarding smoking I actually agree with them.

WOW this really has stirred up a commotion in here. Firstly I will say I believe that yes it does effect non-smokers. Now with that said, I have seen alot of the comments here and it seems as though you believe that non-smokers are better than smokers. How is that right in anyway? We are targeted because we smoke and we are being made to look like we are outcasts, now how is that fair? Non-smokers think that they should have the clean air and yes you are entitled to it, you want it? then go somewhere that doesn't allow smoking. We smokers would not have such a hard time with the bans if the non-smokers would stop pushing for us to be isolated. We can no longer smoker anywhere near a public door, we are being put out in the cold because of a habit. So how about we put a ban on one of your addictions? it's basically the same thing. If we want to smoke it's our life we are allowed. If you don't then go where it won't bother you. Plaina nd simple.

Smokers really don't want to know that smoking is really bad for their health they don't want to accept it because they can't help themselves to quit. Their ears are closed to the health risk people tell them about smoking..Someday they will realize when it is too late and then they will say I should have listened.

I am a smoker, and yes I do know that it is bad for my health. But we are all going to die someway or another. My great grandfater lived to be 101 years old and he smoked from the age of 11. Never had a trace of lung cancer or anything healthwise other than old age. So it does not affect everyone. I do not think that people should smoke, I think that it is nasty, and I can see where you are coming from because I see everything from both sides of the matter that is in discussion. I have been burnt like you said in the post, and I was soooooooo mad. So, even as a smoker I do know how you feel. As for the rest of your post, I really do not understand it.

I agree with you that a lot of that stuff we have been crammed down our throats with is rubbish. Ijust want to see smokers get a place to smoke that will satisfy them so they will just shut up and not pollute the air we have to breathe. they are making a stupid war out of this and I am beginning to think that the nicotine they so praise is warping their brains some way. If they want to smoke just fine, just do not make me breathe the stuff that they also use to kill bugs on fruit trees. If it kills bugs how can it be all that great for humans?

smoking? even you don t smoke, but many of your neighbor or friends smoke besides you, you will be affected by this. it is bad for our helth, and it should not be done in public area.

if you dont want to be around someone while theyre smoking.. dont be. voila. problem solved

Regardless of whether it causes ill effects or not, it is unpleasant for a non-smoker to have to be around smokers. It disrupts enjoyment unfairly.

Geez, what is your major malfunction? If you hate smoking so bad, then just stay out of places that have it. I think this stress your putting on yourself is very unhealthy. Maybe you should focus your anger on somthing like kids being abused or murderers on the loose. Seriously, just stay out of places that have smoke, that is your right. And hopefully us smokers will stay the heck out of any area you are in. You got some issues man.

yes i also agree with u and i have heard that at the one side of smoke is flame and at the other end is a foolish man or woman.

I dont smoke but few of my friends have habit of smoking...they somke when i am with them ...i dont like the smell of smoke but cant say anything to them....

For one smokers know that it is bad for them,and it seems all you wanna do is complain about something,I thought this was FREE country,but would have to say no it isn't ,because people go drinking and they have to smell smoke or have to be around it and start complaining,if you don't like it leave that simpe and if you don't wanna leave deal with it,but NO all people wanna do is complain just like your doing now. I am afraid of no law or ban,so what if I can't smoke somewhere I will just go somewhere I can, that simple,see simpicity what a concept people make a bigger deal outta stuff than need be.

I have never once said smoking is good for any1, i am a smoker myself and i don't smoke around people who do not smoke. there are no health benefits to smoking that is true, but I CHOOSE to smoke and that is my decision and i do not want to be judged for it.

of course not.more than it affects the person who smoke its also detrimental to the health of the person who smokes indirectly that is passive smoking.I hate the idea when people smoke in public places and more often than not they will simply the smoke right on your face without realising it that we are being affected by this non responsible behaviour of theirs!!!

smoking is annoying.. go to the bowling alley and i jus wanna leave cuz of the smoking