Don't tell me why I am voting for Obama
By lisan23
@lisan23 (442)
United States
April 12, 2008 6:25pm CST
This is really starting to get on my nerves. People are assuming I'm voting for Obama because he's good at public speaking, because of his race, because he says the word change a lot.
STOP TELLING ME - AND OTHERS - WHAT THEY THINK AND BELIEVE!!!! How would you like it if I told you what you were thinking, what you were doing, and what you believed without knowing a single damn thing about you?!
I spent HOURS researching several of the candidates before I made my decision. It is informed, I know exactly what I'm doing, and none of my research included myself asking the question "Do I consider this person a good public speaker?".
You do not have to agree with who I'm voting for, as I probably won't agree with who you're voting for. But get off your high horse and stop making assumptions and telling me and others what we are thinking.
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4 responses
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
14 Apr 08
Okay, Lisan23, let's do it your way! I still say people who are voting for Barak Obama are not as informed as they should be!
He is less liberal than Hillary? Check this out!
http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/
Just Hillary lies?? Oh contraire!
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_Obama/ObamaLies.htm
These facts have been in several discussions and are always ignored by Obama supporters so what are we supposed to believe when you and other liberals totally ignore what's in front of your face? The only other thing it can be is that you people are enamoured by his oratory skills!
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
15 Apr 08
So what you are saying, Lisan23 is that if it doesn't agree with your version of the truth it is biased? The first site just ran a numbers crunch, nothing more, but because it came up as placing Barack out of your idea of where he is liberal versus conservative it has to be biased! The second site may be somewhat biased but(isn't there always a but) the items he places in the article are facts you can look up anywhere! What he said in Selma, Alabama for instance was basically the same type of lie Silly Hilly told about the sniper fire. Obama was born almost four years before the Selma march but his parents were inspired by it and Barack was concieved! A person or news source can be biased but the dates things happened can never be biased, they are just facts!
Now you throw a few links at me about where you researched your voter reasoning and I believe it's admirable that you have taken so much time to try to make the best decision possible to fit your idea of how America should be! All I have to go on is gut instinct and 35 years of voting experience. I gotta tell you, it isn't what I know about Obama that scares the he11 out of me, it is what I and everyone else doesn't know about him that petrifies me!
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@lisan23 (442)
• United States
15 Apr 08
So since your using those types of sources, does that mean it's ok if I use the Huffington Post to support my side? If you're going to use sources, use un-biased sources. I won't even look at anything that is biased.
What I'm trying to tell you is to stop telling me what I know. You don't know me, but yet you think you can say what I think for me? I don't think so.
Stop making assumptions Rodney. If you'd like to know the sites I used to make my decision here they are:
www.votesmart.org
The Library of Congress Website
www.senate.gov
www.govtrack.us
Those are the sites that I used when deciding which candidate to vote for. How dare you say I am uninformed while you use sites such as www.freedomsenemies.com. Also, according to www.govtrack.us Clinton is a radical democrat, while Obama is a rank and file democrat. That source is by far more legitimate and unbiased than your own.
@lisan23 (442)
• United States
15 Apr 08
So, despite me using government provided websites, that's not enough. I should agree with you and look at sources that are unreliable. Sorry - but that makes absolutely no sense. I'm going to trust the Library of Congress over either of the sites you provided. As I said before, I don't use the Huffington Post or other liberal sites when trying to make a point because I believe in REAL information. So I don't look at what suits my version of the truth (point to one site that would in fact suit my version of the truth that I listed), I look for the actual truth. You, on the other hand, seem to care only about your version of the truth by the source you used.
As for the Selma incident, if you look it up Selma starting making headlines in the late 50's, before Barack was born, because that is when the attempts to help register black voters began and the problems began arising. It IS very possible that his parents were moved by the events that were going on in Selma before the march even occured. But of course, if the truth doesn't suit you I don't expect you to actually accept this.
The fact still remains that I used legitimate unbiased sources to base my vote - and I just don't think you can accept that. Even if I hadn't used those sites, you still don't have the right to tell me why I chose to vote for someone. It's ignorant and against the American idea that I can think and speak for myself. Obviously I'm not able to think or speak for myself if someone like you thinks you can do that for me.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
13 Apr 08
I feel your pain Lisan. I actually disagree with Obama on many issues. I'm an independent who has always identified with the Republican Party a little more for many of their stands. However, Barack Obama is not the typical Democrat, and despite some of the things I'm not crazy about from the Democratic platform, they have it right on all the major issues this election. The 2 most important things for me this election is Iraq and the Economy and not necessarily in that order.
I recently had a vacation where for almost a full week I didn't talk or even think about politics (although even in the airport I overheard some pro-Obama talk). I do have to say getting away from the negativity coming from this election felt great, but it has also helped put things in perspective for me. I'll never join the Democratic party, however after what I have experienced defending Obama, I'll doubt I'll ever cast another Republican vote. I hate to call anyone bigoted or racist until I know them, however I know for a fact I have faced much bigotry in my dealings with people this election cycle. It has definitely given me a different outlook on everything.
I used to be that guy that got a little mad inside after 911 when I'd see someone pass with Muslim headgear or I'd get mad at things like affirmative action and other racial issues. Now after what I have personally experienced, I feel very bad as I am sure America has treated many good people very badly just because of their beliefs or even just the color of their skin. This election really has opened my eyes to much I didn't see before.
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@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Name me one thing "Obama" opened your eyes to...
Wow, you all don't vote based on political records or affiliations do you?
@jormins (1223)
• United States
13 Apr 08
How about Iraq? Was it a good idea? I thought it wasn't a bad idea in the beginning I won't lie. I remember joking with friends about gas prices getting lower for us stabilizing Iraq. I definitely was wrong as we are nearing what $4 a gallong? Obama definitely was one of the few who was right.
If you don't like Obama please tell me why. Voting records and affiliations? Please specify and I'll definitely tell you what I think.
@pillusch (1147)
• Mexico
13 Apr 08
Okay, you've got a valid point there, I would probably feel the same if I were in your place. But let me go beyond that point: Could you tell me why you will vote for Obama? I'm not an American, so I can't vote in your country (obviously). But whatever happens in the U.S. affects us all, for better or for worse. Now, I personally would vote for Hilary Clinton, simply because of the experience factor. So again, and this is a genuine question, why would you, or so many others, as it appears, would go for Obama, of who we know precious little with regard of how he would act in a given situation. I don't love Hilary, but here what you see is what you get.
@lisan23 (442)
• United States
13 Apr 08
I won't vote for Hillary for a few reasons. First - she uses her time as first lady as "experience" and has said several things which were blatant lies yet refuses to admit that she lied. (The Bosnia story, her playing an instrumental role in peace in Ireland were both proven as lies.)
Second, out of the two Deomcratic candidates she is actually much more liberal with her voting record and bills she has sponsored. If she became president she would more than likely have a majority democrat cabinet.
Third, I honestly wonder whether it will be "her" as president of if Bill will be behind the scenes running the show. Another problem is the (unfortunately) she is a woman and considering how rocky our relationship is with a lot of Middle Eastern countries, I don't know if now is the best time to have a woman president.
Why am I voting for Obama? While he is liberal, he isn't afraid to stand behind a Republican who's doing the right thing. (He co-sponsored a bill in which McCain was the sponsor regarding border security.) Obama, if elected, has stated he wants to have a cabinet that includes members from all 3 political parties. Obama doesn't owe the corporations or lobbyists of this country anything as they aren't the ones fueling his campaign. Obama's voting record as well as the bills he has sponsored shows that he is not all talk at all. He has already proposed bills in Congress that would support the platforms he has as a presidential candidate.
Experience does not make a good president. (Don't forget, President Bush is experienced and look at where we are now.) Abraham Lincoln is one of several presidents in the history of the US who had very little experience, he in fact had less experience than Obama does. But he has gone down in history as one of our best presidents.