What's Happening To Our KIDS?
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
April 13, 2008 8:23pm CST
This is getting so ridiculous, so crazy, every single day there's a new story of a child being beaten within an inch of his or her life by other children. Recently it was the teen girls, today I heard and posted about 10 and 11 year olds. There were 8 year olds plotting to attack their teacher. I just said in a recent post that while I know every generation claims to have been better behaved or whatever than the ones who came after them I can say for sure kids were NOT doing this kind of thing "in my day"! So, what's going on? What's causing these kids to go wild?
I know there have been some who have said problems started when the Bible and Lord's Prayer were taken out of the schools; however, I'm 55 and that happened when I was, if I remember correctly, in the first grade. Therefore, I think it's something else or at least something more. When I was in school if I got in trouble at school I was in worse trouble when I got home and the same was true for all of my friends. The same thing went for if I visited someone's home or went to a public place, like a park, a pool, a skating rink, whatever. I was expected to behave myself and treat others with respect and to obey whatever adult was in charge - PERIOD! Today a kid gets in trouble in school or anywhere else and the parents are sticking up for him or her, threatening to sue if the brat is even yelled at let alone given a smack the way we were or would have been! This stuff wasn't happening when my daughter was growing up either and she will soon be 38 and graduated from high school in 1988. When did everything start to go nuts and fall apart? What is causing it and what, if anything, can we do about it?
Annie
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15 responses
@Feona1962 (7526)
• United States
14 Apr 08
Just like you said, when we were young no matter what we had to listen..and if we even thought of doing wrong we were in bigger trouble when we got home...We had to listen..Kids today don't have too! I was just watching a video where 8 kids beat up a girl and video taped it, then put it on YouTube and now they may get life in prison...all for what? because they thought they were cool..I'm not sure...I have no idea what is going on only that there isn't any discipline and nobody cares anymore....
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@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
14 Apr 08
Hello.
Our mistake is not being able to see our mistake. There is nothing wrong with the children. The mistake are on the parents! What in the hell are these parents doing? Children making children nowadays, responsability is down! The parents does not want to know anything, all they think about is sueing others! There was a huge advance in humanity's rights, and now people think that they can do anything! They are abusing their own rights. Teachers will, soon, have to go to the classroom to learn. Students will be able to make their own tags on the walls and break the school apart. Why? Because it's correct for the teacher to be beaten, but incorrect for the children to be yelled at. What is wrong with us all? Let's open our eyes! Sometimes, we should have dictators out there to teach what is good. Everything has its advantages. And perhaps now it would be a great time for the militars to teach those unprepared parents. People should start being castrated for having children when they can't even raise themselves, and then everything would get on the right way...
Sometimes, I wish I could be heard by the World. Only for once.
Respectfully,
Munhozmib.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
14 Apr 08
I'm not sure I'd go as far as you say but I sure do agree people have to open their eyes. Kids are growing up with no respect for authority whatsoever and nobody can be blamed for that except the parents. In the story about the third graders plotting to attack the teacher the part that stuns me is that it was because she'd scolded a child for standing on a chair! In other words these little brats should be able to do whatever they please and the teacher can't even correct them? Give me a BREAK!!
Annie
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@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
19 Apr 08
We should teach kids in a completely different way. We should make them THINK, instead of passing thoughts to them. We should raise thinkers, and our world would be near perfect. Now, since many parents are unable to do it, the good and old "slaps" will still work in correcting the children. Look at those examples, children nowadays yell at others and what happens to them? Nothing. They only hear: "You should stop.". No, take all from them, take their video-games, take their computers, until they learn. Be severe! Parents, wake up!
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
14 Apr 08
Well I don't think it's because mothers are working. I grew up with both my parents working and like you if I got in trouble at school or anywhere at home would have been worse. Now that isn't to see fights and violence didn't happen back then, it did we just didn't hear about it as much. If a student was beaten up in another city we didn't hear about it where as today it happens across the country and we will. So I can't really say for sure if it is worse however I do think there are problems with children and teens today and it stems to the fact that so many parents are afraid to be parents.
Let's face it from the time a child enters pre-k the schools are telling them if your parent ever hurts you or even "makes you feel bad" they are to call 911. They are given the power that if they don't like something that the parents do they can call the cops on them. So if mommy says no and gives them a time a out they think they can call. Now true the cops might come out and say there is no cause but in the meantime that goes on the parents record and stays there until the child is 18 so if there are any more calls they know about it. Then you have on top of it if a parent is out in public and scolds a child or heaven forbid gives them a swat on the rear you have people all in their face telling them they are bad parents and threaten to call the police on them. The parents are in a no win situation.
Added to all this to the messages they have been sending for the last 20 years to parents that you should "reason with your child", "You should compromise" and that you should "cajole your child" when they are doing something wrong. Parents have to be parents. They shouldn't be friends with their child or worried that they won't be liked by their child. However you send those messages along with the fear of having the state called in on you and many Parents today have no idea on what they should do.
Now with all that going on you did have the additional problem of the court system. For most of the last 70's into the 90's the courts sent the message that if you were under 18 you got a slap on the wrist. Many teens go the attitude of "What can they do to me I'm under 18" and would do as they liked. Their records would be sealed at 18 and it wouldn't effect them. Now we have gone the other way but that message was sent for a long time and it did have an effect on how teens behaved.
All of this combined as sent the message that children and especially teenagers can do what they like and no one will do anything about it. Today we are reaping the rewards for it. We need to go back to some of the older ways. Where parents could discipline their child without fear, where the schools and the courts would punish a child for doing wrong doings, and where society wouldn't be so obsessed with every little thing a parent does.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
20 Apr 08
You're quite welcome. I'm glad you liked the response. I just wrote how I feel and what I've seen through the years.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
20 Apr 08
Well, you said it very well. It's a very complex problem, not something that can be summed up with one sentence or one cause. It's certainly not working mothers alone because I worked while my daughter was growing up and so did most of her friends' mothers and these things didn't happen, at least not as often or as severe as they do today. It's not just prayer being taken out of schools because that happened over 40 years ago; neither is it "just" TV, movies, music, video games or any or all of the above. It's a combination of probably dozens of different things. The parents no longer seeming to have the right to discipline their owns kids as they see fit is a BIG one and I'd say a good place to start, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
Annie
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
16 Apr 08
I agree with you there
A Child is suppose to be able to trust their Parents but in this case the Parent misused that trust and that is another reason why Children turn out the way most of them are
I have to say though that Shannon's Parents are the lowest of the Low, I do not understand how anyone can put their Child through that ordeal and to create so much pain around them, mislead the Police like they did
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@skinnychick (6905)
• United States
14 Apr 08
I'm scared for my kids. I have no idea when it all started to fall apart. I graduated high school in 1991 and school seemed like such a safe haven back then. Now it just seems like he11 and our kids will never be safe even in school.
What's next churches?? Oh wait, that has already happened too.
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@shoelessjoe (81)
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14 Apr 08
I agree you 100% everybody seems to blame the schools.Schools are there to educate children,.children should have been taught to resepct ppl and property by their parent long before they start school,and they can only be taught by the example of their parents.The parents are totally to blame for any miss behaviour of their children and should be make to make amends for and damage or law breaking resulting from their kids behaviour.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
15 Apr 08
That's a fantastic point and one I think I was missing a bit. When it's asked if the parents are to blame when kids do these awful things such as bullying or beating up a playmate or classmate I've from time to time been unsure of what I felt. I mean, I've known parents who really did their best to raise their kids the right way and to discipline them but the kids still screwed up, sometimes because they got mixed up in the wrong crowd. I think now I'm being too easy on some parents. Another thing, everyone loves to criticize the public school system and the teachers but the truth is they're not being given the chance to TEACH because they're forced to spend much of their time breaking up fights and protecting themselves from attacks by the kids they're supposed to be educating.
Annie
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
14 Apr 08
I don't know what the heck is going on nowadays, but it's just not right. I wouldn't o back to school again if you paid me. It was just STARTING to get bad when I was finishing up highschool, now it's terrible!! I am scared for my nieces and nephews who are just STARTING school.
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
15 Apr 08
I'm not sure what is wrong with kids these days either or when it started happening with them really. I have noticed this coming on and getting worse for years though since I have a 16 year old daughter. I am so glad that she only has two years of school left. It is very scary. I think alot of these kids are lacking constructive things to do in their lives and the parents do not have a whole lot of family time to sepnd with them since the world is so fast paced now.
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@pismeof (855)
• United States
14 Apr 08
I can't give a specific date and time but,in my personal opinion it all began it's slippery slide (late 70's) when woman went to work.I don't think the children get the proper attention and discipline they needed to instill morality and then they (the kids)get bombarded with all kinds of garbage in the news and television,even their music.
Think about this Annie;You and I grew up with "My Three Son's and "Leave it to Beaver" Today's children watch "The Simpsons' and Family Guy"
Our "Leader's" whom should be setting examples for good behavior instead are in the news for some wrongful act and in turn becomes sensationalised.
I also believe because parents have limited amount of time with their kids they(the parents)prefer to be a friend rather than parent.
As each future generation passes... right from wrong isn't instilled in the next because it was never taught to the first.
@zhangzhipeng (58)
• United States
15 Apr 08
my wife is a teacher , and some times i heard something like this , maybe that became a common society phenomenen.
i think that's nothing, because the children is too small to distingguish what's good and what's bad ,
this need the parents the society and the teacher's contribution.
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@dloveli (4366)
• United States
16 Apr 08
I have a few theories of why this is happening. First, I believe that parenting has lost its priority. With the economy and inflation on the rise, both parents are forced to work full-time jobs. Children are left to their own devices. If you are a single parent and have no support from family and/or friends, you are forced to make sacrifices. Among these people have had to work to keep a roof over their heads, clothes on their backs, and food on the table. If we dont do these things the state steps in and takes our children. Secondly, I think the school system has a great responsibility in the violence and disrespect area. We have allowed the school system to spill over into our home lives. Yes the children should be taught that if someone hurts you or makes you feel uncomfortable in any way they should tell someone. I think, however, that doesnt mean when the parent takes away a cell phone or wont buy expensive clothes or shoes that the parent made the student feel bad so they report it as abuse. I worked in the school system 5 years and I have seen it all. We have allowed government to oversee our parenting. Children are abused every day and it should be reported. People these days take advantage of this. If your mad at someone, call social services to piss them off. When I was a child when the police were called or a child taken from a family it was for serious issues. And lastly, violence is being portrayed as the cool thing to do according to television, music and media.
We have to stop blaming everyone else and take a look at how we can help the situation. I have two children. My oldest was picked on terrible. I would try to talk to the parents and got excuses. When my children were said to have done something I took responsibility for this. I handled the situation by holding my child responsible if she hurt someones feelings. Its time to stop competing with the neighbors and save our children. Set postive example for kids to follow. It also doesnt help that evertime we turn on the tv we have a presidential race that has turned into exactly what we are telling our children not to do. We could all do our part. It wont be easy to fix whats been reenforced for the last 15 years or so. As parents, tell our children whats going on and let them think of ways to stop this violent behavior. Work with the schools and community programs to help mediate the squabbles rather than solving it with violence. I could go on and on.... I hope this helps. dl
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Apr 08
I am not sure really what all is causing this but I think that parents are not parenting enough and letting the schools handle stuff thatthe parents should do. then too and I do not wish to anger anyone,todayit seems as if so many people are not bothering to get married and if some little problem rises one or the other walks out of the relationship.this must be hard on the children in these families I am not saying that living together instead of marriage is wrong, just that people sometimes break up too easily and it affects their kids.I do not remember anyof this stuff happening when myson was in grade school and that was forty off years ago. so times have changed and not always for the better.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Apr 08
I think it all starts when kids are little and their parents do not respect their kids at all oh they love them for sure but do not respect them do not hear them when they tryto tell their parents their problems and their fears.If a child gets no respect at hom hen he is taught not to respect his teachers and parents and otherkids. respect begets respect. see you child as a worthwhile human being who needs your respect as well as your love. by respect I mean listen to your child with respect to his feelings and ideas do not negate them,after all they are his or hers.treat your child the way you want to be treated and he will prosper.
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