The Myth of the All Important "Working Class"...

I have had a lot of jobs and this is the most common problem I have seen. Everyone thinks they have the hardest job, it's the most important and it's dog eat dog. People don't seem know how to or want to work together most of the time. They don't seem to understand that if they work hard their boss or owner does better, thus everyone could make more money. I constantly see people who resent management just because they are management. I think unions have served and abused their purpose in this country. We have OCEA now, they seem to be very on top of things at least in the factories I have worked in. Now it seems as if Unions are asking too much from the employers at times, thus one of the reasons a lot of our great jobs are now being done by overworked, underpaid women and children in China. Now we blame the government for losing our jobs and expect them to get them back.

in the UK there is the same class war mentality. when foxhunting was banned, and undeniable and overwhelming evidence was given that it was not cruel, many Labour Party mps ignored it and voted for a ban becaue they said it was revenge for the miner's strike. Ridiculous further becuase in Wales many miners hunt. The worst thing is, the MPs and party who purport to represent the working class are in fact middle class and usually from private schools education. Worse still, is that they spnd fortuns of taxpayr mony on an inadquae ducation system yet continue to send their own children to private schools. My mother was miners daughter but fashion model and she always used to say that the socialists always try to keep the working class down...and I think it true. But there IS a definite cultural difference with class. Though there is much more social mobility (though the current socialists have virtually stopped this over 12 years)then here used to be say 100 years ago, that was and never was the real important factor; at least in the UK. The working class culture is diffrent...and ironically, very similar to upper class culture. The common values are shared...and they tend to be hednistic...thrill seeking, sporting, dressing up, fast cars, horse racing, gambling smoking drinking, partying etc. Th middl class however; are the ones who use the working classes to take power themselves. They do the sams with animals. Generally in the UK you get animal rights and left wingers in the middl class urban culture...who control things; and forc thier morality on others. So just like in nazi germany and communist russia it was the narrow minded petit bourgeois who forced their narrow value system complete with bigotry on others; so it is today in the UK. So foxhunting and smoking is now banned, smoking and gas guzzling cars taxed but this has hurt the working class hard. They have also had their aspirations lowered by an udctaion system that has deferred gratification at itsheart...impossble for any working class culture to adapt to. So there is such a thing as social classes...and it is a shame that the cultural values of working and upper clases are not respcted a bit more. And certainly middle class Socialists claiming to be represnting the working class are usually just out to further their own moral agendas line their pockets and further their prejudices in Law.

Instead of politician fighting for America's working class, what about America's taxpayers class. CEO's work, I am in management and I work, but no one would ever say I am a worker. Yes those evil managers that everyone hates except when I sign their checks. How many jobs have those politician that represent the working class created? How many jobs have those evil capitalist created. If you want more worker you need more capitalist. More business owner, more workers, I do not see politician anywhere in that statement. Everyone complains when a CEO makes millions of dollars a year, but would you put up with all of the stress that being responsible for a multi-billion dollar company, and more employes than the Army, for 10 dollars a hour. The reason they make a million dollars is because they are worth a million dollars.

Well, the working class don't count for much if the evil rich business owners were not a part of the equation, because without them there would be NO working class. I actually have very little use for unions, because they tend to create a lot more problems then they are worth, both to the workers they supposedly represent and to the businesses. Everyone has their place in business, and if one part doesn't do it's job then the entire business is hurt. All the workers represent is just one part of the complete picture.

you have nice points. and i think it all depends on where your bias is. i myself dont like labels and the bigotry. but i dont think humans can just detach itself from its basic class consciousness. but i agree, with the thought that in this post-post modern era of sociological thinking... concept of class and supremacy are not so suitable. just my opinion though.