Why do people use children to get what they want after a break up?
By Esoteric1
@Esoteric1 (863)
Canada
April 17, 2008 8:22am CST
I don't know about you but I can't get my head wrapped around parents that would use their children to get what they want.
I have a friend, he and his wife had children together but they just do not get along and they have since broken up. It was a bad break up and they still fight when they see each other, but they remain in contact because of the children.
People can say whatever they want about fathers, but I do not feel the mother is always right.
I see many mothers using their kids to get what they want, now I know many mothers a great mothers and are not like that. My son's mother is a great one, so I am obviously not talking about all mothers!
But there are many mothers that do use their children to get what they want.
My friend is basically a good guy, he has his faults but who doesn't? He will give his daughter money to buy herself food and what ever she needs and the next thing he finds out, is that the mother has taken the money and spent it for herself. Sometimes she asks the daughter for the money, and sometimes she just takes it.
Now the mom has enough money to live on that she does not need to take money given to her own daughter.
Many times the daughter has to ask her father for money to buy shoes or whatever she wants, because the mother has taken her money from her.
Once he sent her home with 12 hotdogs and a few other things to eat for a couple of days days.
No sooner did she get home, she called her father again, to say that she needed more food she was hungry. She obviously didn't eat all those hotdogs and the rest of what he had sent, so who was eating them and why?
The mother will also put the daughter to asking for things she really wants, because she knows the father will give the daughter anything she wants.
You may not agree with me but I see this as wrong, children should never be put in the middle of things like that, it is hard enough to live without one parent, they should never have to play sides, and lie and cheat to get things one of the parents really want.
Why do parents constantly put their children in the middle and use them as pawns to get what they are after?
Did this ever happen to you and your ex? Do you know of anyone else that uses their children in this way, or uses children to get back at an ex?
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6 responses
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
17 Apr 08
My ex use to do that all the time. Of course, now we have my son and don’t try to pull that BS. Kids should never be caught in the middle of a divorce. It isn’t fair to them. They are going through enough with the parents being separated.
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@Esoteric1 (863)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
I agree kids should never be used like that and put in the middle. I am glad that you have settled your situation and the child is no doubt better off and feels more secure and confident. Thanks for responding.
@emmasmomma (340)
• Canada
17 Apr 08
I have seen one of the absolute worst cases of this first hand. A friend of mine was married, had a child and then they split. Now, being a mother myself, you would assume that I would be all pro mom and anti dad but that is not the case here. The mom in the situation is absolutely nuts...The dad (my friend) has his own issues too. But their poor child is always put in the middle. The mom has taken it so far as to call child welfare agencies and other organizations like this claiming child abuse. Now I can say with relative certainty that the dad does not hit the child because whenever he gets visitation with the child it is at the dad's parent's house. The child's paternal grandmother and grandfather absolutely adore the child and would never let the dad hit him. I know that there are always two sides to every story, but when one side is a absolute fabrication it seems impossible to comprehend.
@Esoteric1 (863)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
I couldn't imagine going through what your friend is going through. That is truly awful, I hope he has this issue resolved quickly as it is mostly hurting the child. Maybe he should go to the courts about it the grandparents would make good witnesses. Anyways I hope your friend and his child make it through this okay, thank you for responding.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
18 Apr 08
When I was a board member at a single parent association I saw it all the time. I saw heart broken fathers, who never go to see their children because the wife wouldn't let them.
I saw some parents also getting the children to ask for money for let's say shoes, but it really was for the mother to buy cigerettes with and go out on the town.
I do not see that children should be put in the middle. I just feel it is wrong.
And as you know I had to raise you all by myself too.
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@Esoteric1 (863)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
That is exactly what I mean that is basically what she does to him, he is so fed up of it I see the anger and pain he feels over it, and it is tearing the family further apart. He won't stop giving his daughter everything as he knew what it was like to go without and he has it in him to give what she may want or need.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
5 Sep 08
I think it is awful to use children when a relationship goes bad also. I know alot of people use their children to get ahead in life. some use them to get support from their ex and they also use the children against the ex to tie them down or keep them around.
@drknlvly6781 (6246)
• United States
18 Apr 08
I have never done this and I despise any parent (because I know there have to be fathers that do the same thing) that does this. In the case of your friend, right now he should buy his daughter what she needs, and never send her home with money. In the long run he needs to sue for custody.
I kinda started down this road, but I believe that I had good reason. My kids father and I were together for 5 1/2 years. I got to know how he was with his other children, for which he never paid child support. One child never got a support order put in, because she was in the custody of her grandmother, and the grandma didn't want to sue the mother for child support too. The other child had a support order, but he never paid, and never really tried to get a job to pay on it.
So when we broke up, I had the feeling that he would do me the same way. I told him that he couldn't see his kids until we got some sort of agreement on support between us. We came up with a tentative one, but I wanted it on paper and notarized. When I brought him a copy of what we agreed on, he balked, saying it was unfair. So I told him, since we had agreed on all of it before on the phone, that it was either this or the court system. He chose court.
I filed the papers in June, and let him know a second time he would not see the kids until we got the order in place. He was mad, but I didn't care. I wasn't about to take care of these kids by myself, and I felt that was the only leverage I had.
By October, I felt sorry for him and the kids, so I took them over to spend the evening with him on Halloween, while I went to a party at my brother's not too far away. I ended up staying later than I had planned, because my ride was nowhere to be found. I did communicate this to him, but what was supposed to be a treat turned into a trick. When I finally did get to them, he was very angry, and we ended up in an argument. I told him that the deal was back on, and he wouldn't see the kids until the order was in place.
I regret what I have done. The kids could have gotten to see him a lot more, if I wouldn't have held them for ransom, as a friend of mine put it. Now the kids can't see him too often. He does pay child support, and we do communicate about the kids a lot better. But he is working three jobs, to uphold the house he is in, and to pay for the child support. He doesn't have much time for the kids, and I can't ask him to cut back, because they need the support.
In my case, it wasn't to get what I wanted, but what my kids needed. In the end, they are still hurt.
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@Esoteric1 (863)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
Actually my friend does have custody of her he has another child with the ex that lives with her. He sends her to visit or stay with the mother sometimes. He sends her with what she needs to have or eat for the duration as her mother is broke all the time, she wastes her money I can't really say what on. The mother has enough income to do what needs to be done but she wastes too much and spends more than she has. I am glad that it was at least in the best interests of the children in your case. I can see why people would do that just not why they would steal from their own children or use them for what they want for themselves, like if you were to take his money and go spend it all with your friends or something. Thanks for responding ... I hope your kids get to see their father more often.
@Remando (175)
•
18 Apr 08
I do have experience of this, but in very strange way!
My ex had a little girl, 3, who was lovely. I got on with her mother as well as could be expected, and always showed respect and love to the little girl.
Anyway, every single time the mother broke up with one of her many boyfriends, she would send us a letter saying there was to be no more contact with the little girl and the ex would have to go to court for custody.
It was very strange, but we soon realised she was simply in a bad mood and was attention seeking, wanting my partner at the time to lavish the attention she wasn't getting from whatever boyfriend she had.
Eventually, after the third or forth time (you can imagine this was very, very stressful) we sought legal advice and came to a legal stand regarding custody so she could no longer send the letters.
I think whatever situation you are in it is disgusting to you your own children at pawns, at it WILL end up affecting them.
@Esoteric1 (863)
• Canada
19 Apr 08
I am glad you sought legal advice and settled the matter. I trust the little girl is better off for it, keep her happy and smiling! ... always. I agree it's just wrong to treat kids as a means to an end, and they most certainly are affected by it, and will grow to resent parents due to it. Thank you for responding.