Income Tax should be abolished

I would favor a national Sales Tax but only if the Government could not raise the tax rate. If they need more money than they would have to cut some programs. We would also need to make every program would have to have a sun set date (none longer than 10 years). Specific taxes like the gasoline tax should be used only for roads and not to fund pet projects of the lawmakers. They would have a vested interest in seeing that the economy stayed strong. While we are at it lets abolish the Social Security Tax and instead require that that money be placed in a private account (like elected officials have) and could be withdrawn at age 57. The big thing is the government would not be able to borrow from this fund with out you making that choice.

Oh how I wish this would work here in the states - I do not disagree with paying taxes for certain things such as road maintenance, police/firefighters, education, defense, etc., but the taxes here in the states are outrageous! This year alone: 38% income tax (basically for every 5 days worked, 2 go to pay taxes), 2.5% property tax - bought my home with my hard earned money, but have to pay every year, 8.25% sales tax on all items except food, no state income tax, but one of the few states without it, Capital gains tax 15% for things I held over a year, 38% for less than a year - in other words, I invest the money I earn and end up losing a portion of it because I'm intelligent enough to invest instead of spend Estate tax (not in effect currently, but several politicians are trying to bring in back) up to 50%, I work hard all my life, buy a home, make some investments - give 40% of everything I earn to the government, I die and the government gets up to 50% of whats left. This years taxes have hit very hard & I'm a little upset about all of it (obviously), we made some very good investments that paid off early, and ended up being penalized. You hear so many say the capital gains taxes only effect the rich, so why shouldn't we raise them, but who do they think stimulates the economy, invests in new businesses, allows them to get a loan on their home, etc. I tell ya, I'm about ready to start burying the money in the yard, even if I lose 2.5% a year in inflation, its still cheaper than paying taxes!!!

Sure government needs the tax money, but so do the people working their backsides off to earn that money. Wouldn't mind giving it to them so much if they'd ask. But they force it on you all for the 'privelege of living in this country' Last time I checked taking something that didn't belong to you was stealing...

For me collection of income tax does seem like 'giving with one hand and taking with the other'.

yeah, basically i agree with yr point. it's unfair for those hardworking guys, let's say, if i deserve this ammount of money, cause i spent my time, money, vigor to earn this, why should government cut a quarter out of my pay? but government has to find a way to use, to compensate the poor, to build facities, where do they get all of thses? Tax, of course. but maybe not income tax. tax on goods sounds like a good alternative, but not that much. i'm reading principles of economies written by mankwin( i don't know if the name's right). we can impose a heavy tax on luxury goods. as a way of helping the poor, poor one don't need these luxuries. but things turned out to be that the tax on luxuries have been equally divided by producers and buyers. and then the producers will bring forward measures to reduce the pay of general workers. see, things will not go like we think. as a matter of fact, the rich will become richer,and the poor will become poorer. our poor guys need to find ways out and get out of this vicious cycle. change our destiny and try the best. wish all guys luck

So the problem you would have with a consumption tax is the amount of tax that would have to be collected on all non-essentials to make up for the loss of federal income taxes. It is not a small number, closer to 25% as a matter of fact. Then you have to look at what a non-essential really is, it would include the following; Housing Services (utilities included) Fuel Clothing Automobiles (purchase + servicing) The list goes on. Really the only break might be on food. Add to this that most states (all but four I believe) have Income Taxes as well that they would likely not abolish. Then add that all states also have consumption based taxes, even those with Income taxes. Finally add property taxes to the mix. You might read the above and believe that I don't think a consumption based tax is the right way to go. In fact I do. However, it is not as easy as it sounds to convert our current system. It cannot simply be changed at the Federal level. The entire system of taxation has to be changed if it is to work effectively and be fair to all tax payers. The way in which our system of government and taxation was originally designed was to allow the States to tax their citizens. The Federal government did not have a legal right to tax individual citizens only the state governments for services provided. Through changes to the Constitution individual taxes was made legal without changing the state system thus citizens are doubly taxed often for the same services. By converting to a consumption based tax at a federal level without the appropriate consideration for all other taxes paid by citizens today it would potentially create a greater burden rather than relief.

One of the best tax systems I ever saw was a debits tax. Have a look at this site for a full run down on it. //www.nutech2000.com/webtext/upaussie/dtaxconcept.html It basically provided for a very very fair system of tax whereby the rich, particularly companies would not be able to avoid tax at all. It would abolish tax evasion when money went offshore which was a really good tempter for me. Also it meant that the average battler would not be disadvantaged at all. 0.33% of income is the rate and is much much less than what is being paid now. The paradoxical thing is that the Government would get MORE revenue than they are getting now. I doubt it will come in because it means those in power - the rich business people who seem to have a monopoly on what policies come into play in the world - would not be in favor of it. The other thing is that it would be so easy to administer. And even if you had people who evaded tax, it still would give more money than what is presently being raised through taxes. So I too think income tax should be replaced by a fairer system.

Special taxes on luxuries like yachts and sports cars will fail. You can't levy special taxes like that on the rich because it is way too easy to evade them. You're dealing with rich people who are quite capable of getting their yachts from other countries and individual sellers who can simply lie about the purchase price. Seriously, even with regular cars people lie all the time about how much they spent on used cars just to avoid the taxes. I personally have no problem with that since I think it's wrong for the government to tax used car sales when they already collected taxes on the original sale. In my opinion income tax should be substantially lower for those who are not earning as much money. I couldn't believe it when I had my first job at $4.25 an hour and the government was stealing 25% of my paycheck. I mean, as if $.25 isn't bad enough, I was only taking home like $3.00 and hour after all the deductions and social security which goes to old people who didn't pay into it like I do.

Apparently, not enough Americans are educated with respect to the Constitution! Not only is the income tax system "un-constitutional" so is the Federal Reserve (which is really a European Central Bank) We need LESS involvement with the Federal government NOT MORE. While I believe some taxes are necessary, the outrageous salaries that go to pay government officials including their benefits are not necessary. Furthermore, the monies spent "socializing" our children into this "one world government" are not necessary either. According to the constitution, the states are responsible for education NOT the mandates of the federal government. And there is a lot of spending with respect to subsidies that are NOT necessary going to corporations that certainly do not need that money, including the big agricultural corporations that are producing (according to the documentary "King Korn") crap corn that has absolutely no nutritional value at all. Yet this crap is used to produce the corn fructose found in all our foods and given to the animals as feed that in turn in used in all our "cheap" fast food restaurants. As for the cost of our occupation in Iraq, all one has to do is watch the videos like "Loose Change" to realize this was a red flag affair and our "occupation" in Iraq is against our laws. If some of you would actually educate yourselves you'd realize just exactly how much your ignorance is costing you, mentally, physically and financially.

Sounds like you were/are a fan of Mike Huckabee. That sounds like the plan he had come up with. Well I was a big fan of him to, but I had some major questions for his taxation proposal. In order to get rid of the income tax you have to get the money lost from somewhere else. You would definately have to increase the sales tax dramatically in order to cover the expense of the lost income tax. I think we would have to slightly increase the sales tax we currently have on food and other essential items. Then, we would need to dramatically increase the sales tax on other nonessential items. The fact is that the government provides so much for us, from roads, to protection. It is ignorant to think that the government does not deserve a portion of our money. It is unfair that some don't pat taxes and some are illegal immigrants who are in the country completely under the government's radar. THis alternative method of taxation, I think, could be affective, but there would have to be some major revisions. Maybe we could set up a pilot program for a year or two and just see if the method works.

of course the government needs the tax income. and in most countries the income tax is the most important kind of tax. if we abolish the income tax, we may find that the government will be very weak, it just can't a responsible government.