How the world is being taken over by ISLAM !

I am with you as to opposing Islamic world domination.

I know that the majority of people in the Mideast are Muslims, and I knew that Iran was Muslim long before 1979. I also know that it was a much different culture than it is today as a result of the revolution. It is a good thing that your government is trying to keep Sharia Law from gaining any ground there, and I do hope you are successful in keeping it that way. The sad fact remains that it seems that every where Islamics go the Fundamentalists are not far behind with the goal of inflicting Sharia Law on the population. We see this as a danger to our way of life as well, because in the strictest since Sharia Law and the Muslim religion in a complete political system where religion become the law. In America we have have laws that would normally prevent something like this from happening built into our Constitution, however there is a state that is indoctrinating 7th grade students into Muslim beliefs and portraying jihad as a good thing. Apparently the Separation of Church and State myth only applies to Christians for some reason. I saw a map last night of Islamic cells in the US and found that there were a few relatively close to my location, and that there was a diagonal swath of influence already carved across the US. I have no quarrel with what anyone believes as long as their belief does not impact my right to believe what I do, and as long as they are not a threat to me, my family, or my freedoms. Sharia Law is such a threat.

I know how they accepted that revolution. I know how that kind of politics work in those countries because there are many people trying to accomplish the same thing here, however our army will never let them do such a thing. When it comes to the way how they make people accept that kind of revolutions. But first, I want to say that it is not what Islam is in truth, it is misinterpretion. The people in Iran before 1979 were mostly muslims also. the people you see in those photos are already muslim people. I mean , to be a muslim you don't have to wear black sheets or you don't have to get a horrible facial hair. In truth, it is not mentioned in Quran. So, how did they achieve such a revolution? This is not made in a very short time. They work so hard and very patiently in order to do that. First everything start with "brothers" who give lessons to the teenagers. They give the lessons about school stuff in order to help them, plus they also establish some "meetings" to mention about believes and "peace". Yes, they really mention about the believes and the peace if you look at the surface but if you look at it deeply, they are not mentioning those stuff. They are just brainwashing the teenagers who are already muslim, but they just brainwas them and slowly and patiently they change their minds about the religion. After all, you see those people showing off their religious activities in public. The Quran mentiones that our worships shouldn't be used as a show off and it is a big sin, but they just do that and if anyone says "why do you do that here" they just say "do you question something that quran mentions?" You know teenagers really well. If you take the chance to brainwash them, it is not very hard. After all,they will have achieved to create a community which is brainwashed. They really think they are following the right way, but in fact they are serving something evil. Then, somebody puts some arguements about religion to divide the people in the nation. They put some religious stuff. For example turban (the piece of cloth that covers women' heads). In fact, turban is not mentioned in quran but if a majority of people who mentions islam everywhere,also mentions turban you will think it is a necessity of islam even if it is not. Additionally, if you see someone againist it, you will think it is also againist your religion. That means, those brainwashed people are now the defenders of such signs like turban, etc. and they show it like a necessity mentioned in Quran. Then, it slowly grows among the people. If the governement is not able to give the necessary food to the people living in that country, then the opposite side (sheria supporters) will do that and they will also go on brainwashing. As long as they are providing such sources to the people, they will be more successful on brainwashing. After all these things get established, they now have many people who blindly believe in them. The people are not believing actual islam, they are only believing the people who want to bring sheria. Everybody didn't accept the revolution in iran in those years. There were many people againist it. but guess what? They were all killed... Now, they are also trying to build a community who wants sheria in Turkey. and they have grown slowly. It has been more than 40 years since they have started doing that. The head of this situation is Fettullah Gulen. This person is not living in Turkey because as I have mentioned before, if someone says or does anything that would mean sheria in turkey, it is a crime. and Fettullah Gulen is a crimer for that. but by using the force of "brothers" he has some supporters over here. Where does Fettullah Gulen live now? This is what I am very annoyed about. In the US. Now, Fettullah supporters voted for the current party. and they are removing the ban of Fettullah Gulen so he can come to Turkey again. While everything is that clear, our judges started a trial to close that party but whole west world is againist us and EU even says if Turkey still wants to be a member, that party shouldn't be closed. I am very worried about my contry, and I am really annoyed about the support they recieve from foreign countries. :(

The dumbocrats and retardicans - I like that! I must try to think of something suitably apt for their British equivalents.

We feel exactly the same about organized religion. Good for you! As to a religious zealot being a source of good information, they are much the same as the dumbocrats and retardicans. Both dumbocrats and retardicans tell the truth when talking about each other. I believe it is the same with religious zealots of different religions. This being the case, I trust Dr. Hammond in this instance, but will ignore him when he talks about Christianity.

I'd have thought dreaming up childish names would be above you Stiletto, after your wonderful first post on this thread. As for parties speaking the truth about each other. Hah. Since when? They put spin on everythin, exaggerate or downplay anything, depending on what works best for them.

"Is it not a typical pattern that ANY group or "society" will exert an increase or decrease in their political, bureaucratic or social influences in direct accordance with their standing in the community?" Absolutely YES! One prefers, however, for the increase in influence to be positive, not negative. "Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. How is this any different from Sinn Fein for example? Or how are the ethnic cleansing components any different from the former Yugoslavian situation? Or Rwanda?" Very good comparisons. All the groups mentioned here are to be treated with suspicion. "I do have to question whether it is actually a well rounded overview of the religion as a whole. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that it is?" Yes, I do. As you mentioned earlier, the article is not based on mere people's opinions, but measurable statistics. You mentioned you were loath to bring other religions into the discussion. Please, don't be. The other major religions of Christianity and Judaism would be every bit as inclined toward world conquest as Islam if they had not already been put in their place by the world at large because of earlier historic efforts to do just that. All the world's large organized religions attract power hungry sociopaths seeking to manipulate the emotional masses yearning for spirtual guidance. It has always been that way. Islam is no different this way than the others, except that it is still too young to have been put in its place.

Statistics are notoriously easy to manipulate. Plus it only looks at the percentage of Muslims and ignores any other factor. It seems an extremely biased article, one that I find hard to take the slightest bit seriously.

Yes, statistics can be manipulated and that article appears biased. So, you make a good point and your position is not illogical. Sometimes, though, the statistics are valid and what appears as bias is not. We all have to make our own decisions. Thank you for responding. I like opposite opinions.

I would agree with you. This article seems to be a good find.

Works for me!

I would go so far as to say the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful lawabiding citizens. The most serious problem is the radical Muslims. These people are emotionally unstable, violent prone, criminal personalty types using Islam as an excuse for their inappropiate behavior while feeling good about being a cold hearted sociopathic killer. Who needs or wants such people around?

It's a bold analogy, but I would go as far as saying the radical, jihadist Islamic are piranhas of civilized society.

If I sold my worldly possessions, wouldn't I be one of the needy? Ain't I got a responsibility to not be one of the needy so as to not be a burden on others? Helping others is fine, but sometimes the most help to give some one is to teach them to help themselves. So, no, I'm not going to sell my worldly goods. I still need them. I like a lot of what else you have to say, though.

This is pretty much an enlightened position most people will not understand. For the most part I agree with you. Organized religions have all forgotten the purpose for which they were supposedly founded and serve to seek power and treasure for their religious leaders.

I just think if people actually cared and actually followed jesus and his teachings, they wouldn't be blogging but would instead, sell their worldly possessions and spend their free time helping the needy meet their needs. Even open their large homes and churches up to the homeless and hungry and use their cars to take the sick to the doctor and so on. I thought jesus would be all about doing such things but apparently he wouldn't based on the lack of action on the part of those that claim to follow him. I was in one blog site and had a guy tell me that God Willed him to blog. Really! So I just couldn't figure out how staying home, in the comfort of one's home, eating their meals and having their clean water or other beverage or choice was more important than actually selling the computer and using the money to pay for the needs of someone. Apparently, god thought blogging was far more important. Go figure

Certainly, the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people. I agree concerning respecting other's religions. That is the problem with most religions. Some sects of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are very disrespectful of others religions. All three of these major religions have members who are disrespectful and contemptuous of other's religion. Until the notion of "My religion is THE ONE and everyone else is a non believer doomed to hell!" is finally cast aside, the various religions are always going to have problems getting along.

What you are saying certainly makes sense.

WWII as time puts us further from it has more and more disturbing facts coming to light. Known for a long time is that Hitler and Stalin conspired over the invasion of Poland. Also known for a long time is that the German High Command General Staff conspired to conquer Europe with the planning begun at the end of WWI. The WWII invasion of France actually was done using German plans formulated before 1920. A key part of this conspiracy was that only dedicated members got promoted to the highest levels of the German military. This is how they kept control of it. These 2 examples are long known. What about some of the recently exposed examples? Nah... let's not get into it. I upset too many people already without throwing gasoline on to the fire.

Lower the gas prices? If Islam takes over the world? Yes, gas prices will become lower. After a few generations of Islam ruling the world, human civilization will devolve to the point there will no longer be any technology still working that would require gasoline. This would cause the price of gasoline to approach zero. It would still have some value as a cleaning agent, fire starter, and bomb component, but it would not longer be used in the long since wore out and unrepaired vehicals.

They do have some eloquent spokespersons confusing the issue.

That is good to know.

Certainly, I've not done a good job of running the world. I can't disagree with that. Why not Islam? Because Islam, along with Christianity and Judaism, are all demonstrably false beliefs. Then why do these 3 major religions exist? All three of these major religions are nothing more than a means for their respective religious leaders to have power, influence, and in some cases wealth. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are schemes for the manipulation of people and the empowerment of a few.

Without doubt, when Islam takes over the world, the doomsday, the day of judgement, will be at hand.

The beauty of opposing religious scams is that for the most part, you have to do nothing. Merely understanding what is going on is sufficient when enough people have knowledge.