Early 5's or kindergarten what should we do?
By guinness1982
@guinness1982 (261)
United States
April 21, 2008 2:29pm CST
I took my 4 and a half year old daughter to the kindergarten round up the other day. when they evaluated her they recommended early 5's I think she should go to kindergarten. they saud this because she got a couple of colors wrong and skipped a couple numbers when she counted for them. now I look at it like she has three more months to learn these better. I know she knows them cause shes said them before. But what would you do if this was your child?
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@summerfire (427)
• United States
21 Apr 08
I taught preschool for 13 years. This is my opinion. When they evaluated her not only do they go by the basic concepts, but how she reacted with other children, her reaction to things, and general maturity. She has a whole lifetime of learning ahead...and it will be amazing to her. If you give her a year to grow she will emotionally and physically, and mentally ready for the next step of learning. If you push her to learn, she will get bored or frustrated with the whole situation. Just make a game out of it and keep teaching and when she is bored, let her move on to something new because of where her age is she is a young one for going on to kindergarten. I think if you wait a year it will help her.
@summerfire (427)
• United States
21 Apr 08
Children are like that, you know they know their stuff but when it comes to showing it in action, they have the choices of whether they want you to know it or not lol......Its a maturity thing...if they were asking her questions and she was spying a toy at the time or watching someone play...her thoughts were there and she was like just get this answering thing over with cause I am excited to be here and I want to play, I don't want to sit here with these boring adults lol....it will come..she's okay
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
21 Apr 08
Yes I have been thinking that, My boyfriends grandma used to be a teacher to nd she said just about the exact same thing lol. but on the other hand I think " I know sh knows this stuff cause shes done it before BUT why now does she act like she doesnt know them? We have all summer to work on them"
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
22 Apr 08
thats exactly what she does lol. and I know she'll come around in a matter of time im sure hopefully before next school year lol.
@kezabelle (2974)
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21 Apr 08
Personally id not be happy with that, every child will get a colour wrong now and again and skip numbers one assessment surely is not enough?
Can you appeal against their decision maybe they can see her again and then see what happens? As im in the U its all different they start at 4.5 roughly and go into reception class all together.
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
21 Apr 08
I told them I didnt want her in early 5's when we were there and they said if I requested kindergarten then she would get it, but now Im thinking early 5' would be better for her cause shes a little slower in learning then what there going to be doing in kindergarten but im just not sure lol. I think along the lines of shes going to be 19 if she starts off in early 5's but I also dont want her hating school because shes not as advanced as the other kids :/.
@kezabelle (2974)
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21 Apr 08
Would there be the oppurtunity to move her up later on if she seems to be catching up with others? Or even moving her down a class if she cant cope in kindergarten?
Im sure they wouldnt leave her where she cant cope or was finding everything too easy
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
22 Apr 08
Im sure they might do that im not sure, Thats something I will have to ask.
@chertsy (3798)
• United States
22 Apr 08
I don't know what early 5's means. If this means she's not ready yet, then see if the school has a preschool for her to learn all of these things. So when she goes, she will be better prepared, and knows the school routine. I know when I took my youngest for kindergarten registration, they took her aside and asked her some questions. I honestly thought she wouldn't pass because she's stubborn. I always thought if the child is 5 when school year starts, the state has no choice but to let them go. I guess things changed since my oldest went.
So what if she skipped colors and a few numbers, it happens. Schools today are to pushy it's not even funny. They want my daughter to count to 100 before school is over. She knows it all except she gets hung up on the 20's 30's 40's, etc, and if I don't say it, she skips it and goes straight to 21. When she's in school, for some reason she stops at 16, and it's irritating because I know for a fact she can do it. She has a speach problem, and she's working on it, so it shouldn't be her fault that she has trouble saying 17.
Main thing I noticed here was if the child can count to 10, 20, etc each 6 wks, know's her colors, shapes, her basic information like phone number, address, parents name, date of birth.
Since going to school though, with help she can count to 100, write her first and last name neatly, she's learning to add and subtract.
I learned with having my oldest repeating Kindergarten is, it's better to get a year to prepare than have the child repeat because either way they will graduate high school later.
I would demand that school give her a new test. It can be done. My neighbor across the street fault really hard last year to have her son go, when his birthday came short of the school year by 1 month. He's in the 1st grade this year. You just have to keep pushing it. Here you have a whole week for kindergarten registration. Just keep going until she gets in.
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
22 Apr 08
I think early 5's is like preschool its prolly just what they call it here cause I have heared of pre k and things like that.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
22 Apr 08
Well, if it is pre K, before kindergarten, fight and fight like there's nothing else to get her into it. Neither of my kids went and I regret it so much. Kids that go to pre-k do so much better than ones that didn't, and before anyone writes me to beg a different. I had teachers and a principle that told me this.
If this is kindergarten, also keep fighting.
@Nardz13 (5055)
• New Zealand
22 Apr 08
Hi there. Wow, the kindergarten doing an evaluation on her. The kindergartens here in my country, encourages the child to learn with play, and to use there imaginations, especially at this age, getting a colour, number or anything wrong, is quiet normal, because theres so much excitement going on around them, they're easily side tracked and this age group is always on the move. Kindergarten is all about having fun, playing with friends, learning and exploring, getting use to short periods away from the home enviroment, mom and dad, so that they will be prepared for when they start school. I wouldnt worry too much about the colours your child got wrong, this happens, and anyway, you know shes done them before, she was probably focused on wanting to play or do her own thing. Have a neat day anyway...
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
22 Apr 08
My daughter sounds like she would do great in your countrys schools. where are you from? she has the greatest imagination I did when I was little to and I didnt do well in our schools eather. I think there way to hard on kids especially when ALL kids learn differently
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@phillygirl606 (1112)
• United States
22 Apr 08
I would request a retest. Your child had to do this in front of other people who were perfect strangers. Of course she was probably nervous. Explain this to the school. Set up a date for them to retest her, and than practice with her up until she gets there. Schools are putting way to much on these kids now a days. She only four and a half years old of course she is gonna get some wrong and not be perfect, isn't that what school is suppose to be for, to teach and re - enforce. This makes no sense to me. They are already singling your daughter out.
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
22 Apr 08
Thats how I feel I think that during the summer she can have a lot of time to learn the things she needs to and I really would like to give her the chance to graduate before shes 19.
@ximeiguang (168)
• China
22 Apr 08
I just want to say that you have a so lovely kid. I like her!
She is clever and she knows what will happen on her. You should be proud of her.
I am nor kiding but serious. This kind of girl has her own character, so you'd better recept her and talk to her demurely.
I am sure she will understand your meanings and do as you say.
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
22 Apr 08
I am VERY proud of her and she totally has her own character shes a lot like I was at her age actually.
@mnflower (1299)
• United States
22 Apr 08
I think if they evaluated her and they think that she should have more time think that she is not really ready then I would not rush her, after all it is just 3 months and it not going to make a big difference, alot of time kids being put too early into school learn to hate it and if they not ready then they will always be behind the other kids and then name calling and all that good stuff comes along. calm down think about it and enjoy the 3 months you have your child at home with you they will be going soon enough don't rush them i think you will regret it..
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
22 Apr 08
I guess we shouldn't rush our kids on what they know. If the teacher thinks that's where your child should be then accept it so she can learn more and so when she goes to the higher level she would get higher grades and it will be nicer.
@mssnow (9484)
• United States
22 Apr 08
I wanted to get my son in when he was four he woulda been five about two weeks after school started. he could read books he could spell and knew his colors and numbers but his motor skills wern't up to apr so they told me he should wait an extra year. so when he started kindergarten he was almost six. I kinda think it helped him because he was always ahead of everyone else. it really brought up his self esteem. I know it hard to know your child is smart enough but cant start but your daughter will have anedg over the kids when she starts
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
21 Apr 08
Our public school system doesn't offer anything below kindergarten but here's my opinion anyway...around here many parents are waiting to send their kids to kinderagrten. Many are already or almost 6 before they start. We have several good preschools so the kindergarten curriculum is quite advanced for the average just turned 5 year old. It is way beyond knowing colors and numbers. The kindergarten here has most children reading within the first quarter and doing simple math. Right now my son that just turned 5 (March birthday) is in his preschool's kindergarten prep class. They are learning rhyming, charts and graphs for math, counting beyond 100, pre-reading, and kid writing.
I'm sure your daughter is smart but she definitely wouldn't be ready for kindergarten here. Stick with the early 5's class, it will probably be a lot better for her.
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
21 Apr 08
They gave me a side by side chart of what they learn in early 5's compaired to kindergarten and its quit a difference. thats the thing that makes me think kindergarten might be a little to much for her. but like I said before is we have all summer to learn so I just dont know yet..
@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
22 Apr 08
Dear friend,
That is nothing when compared some other kids I had seen. But this comparative approach may not rise much for kids as each kids has their own ways of grasping and getting knowledge may be after a certain stage they may boom like anything even they are not much better before. Hope to we may worry but lets keep patience.
@rockvixen (894)
• United States
21 Apr 08
I think she could just be shy. It's possible that your daughter feels more comfort with you than being alone with strangers. Try to let her know that it's ok and not to be afraid, that those people are only trying to help and to see how smart she is. Tell you you are proud of her no matter what. If this was my daughter I would not be upset. I'd give it time. She just needs to be around other people.
You said she knows her numbers and colors, well next time they evaluate her, is it possible you could be in the room with her? Maybe this will relax her.
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
21 Apr 08
Shes not really shy, she is a social butterfly. I dont really know I think its more when shes under "pressure" to do something she doesnt want to do it.
@rup011 (725)
• Germany
21 Apr 08
Don't panic. Every child has his or her own pace to learn and develop. Kids are very moody. At home they will answer each and everything perfectly and outside, depends on their mood. We cannot force them. So just don't worry. Try to convince them to evaluate her again. Hopefully this time she will be better.
@guinness1982 (261)
• United States
21 Apr 08
I dont think they wll do the evaluation again. they just do it at the time of registartion. but I already told them I wanted her in kindergarten but now im having second thoughs about it im just not sure whas right yet for her :/